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The Most Disturbing Details From the NXIVM Sex-Cult Case

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The key word in the entire piece. Not babies, girls, Tweens, teens (<18) all these are what Pedos lust for.
Seems these adult women were easily persuaded to participate. IMO
 

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and you're not going to hear anything about it on MSM
 

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Allison Mack pleads guilty to racketeering charges in NXIVM case
'Smallville' actress Allison Mack pleaded guilty to racketeering charges in a Brooklyn federal court Monday, after being accused of crimes related to the alleged self-help group NXIVM and its spiritual leader, Keith Raniere. Prosecutors accused Mack of helping Raniere recruit women to a secret sub-society within NXIVM, and become sex slaves for Raniere. Mack's plea was entered shortly before jury selection was scheduled to begin.
The daughter of “Dynasty” actress Catherine Oxenberg spent a year on a 500-calorie-a-day diet while in Nxivm’s secret sex cult, a former slave testified Friday.


Ex-member “Nicole” testified that “Smallville” actress and alleged slave master Allison Mack was so manipulative, she’d threaten to starve Oxenberg’s daughter India even further to ensure that Nicole remained obedient.


”When India and I became close, they would use her to make me behave,” Nicole explained during the sex-trafficking trial of accused Nxivm leader Keith Raniere.

“Alison was trying to have [Oxenberg] get down to a certain weight, and they decided that goal weight was 107 pounds,” Nicole said.

Previous witnesses have described how Raniere preferred his “slaves” skinny, sleep-deprived and compliant.

“It was just really hard to watch, sometimes,” Nicole sobbed as she recalled seeing Oxenberg struggle with her forced diet. “It was tough on her.”

ALLISON MACK ALLEGEDLY WANTED NXIVM SEX CULT ‘SLAVE MASTERS’ TO BE ‘SISTER WIVES’

Even when Nicole finally gathered the courage to leave the group, Mack tried to lure her back in, again using her friend.

“The first thing Allison said is ‘Look what this is doing to India, she hasn’t eaten since she got your email,” Nicole testified of her final meeting with her fellow slaves. “And India said ‘Well, that’s not entirely true.'”

The 31-year-old actress repeatedly broke down Friday as she described the humiliating rituals she endured for her “master” Mack — including weekly naked group pictures for Raniere that the former Smallville sidekick termed “family photos.”

The svelte brunette told jurors she knew the photos were for Raniere because she’d seen him respond to a texted image from Mack, writing “all mine” alongside a devil emoji.

'SMALLVILLE' STAR ALLISON MACK MAY TESTIFY AGAINST ALLEGED NXIVM SEX CULT LEADER: REPORT

“This was supposed to be a a woman’s empowerment group, how is it empowering to make us take off our clothes to send photos to a man?” she sobbed to jurors.

“How is it empowering? Because it feels completely degrading.”

Nicole testified she met with her fellow slaves at least once a week at Mack’s Halfmoon, New York home for what the actress called “church service.” Mack had nicknames for all her slaves, Nicole told jurors, saying the onetime TV star called her “the Brat,” and Oxenberg “the Princess.”

The DOS slave’s mother and father wept from the gallery as she described the excruciating pain of having Raniere’s initials seared into her flesh with a cauterizing pen.

“I was resigned to the fact that I was getting branded,” Nicole said, and then broke down again as she explained that she focused on thoughts of her family as she endured the ordeal.

ALLISON MACK ALLEGEDLY TOLD NXIVM SEX SLAVE SHE COULD BE 'WONDER WOMAN'

“It sounds stupid now, but I thought, ‘What would you go through for your little brother?’ And I thought, ‘I can do this. I can do this.'”

She said she finally felt free to leave after coming across a blog run by a Nxivm defector that listed her as a sex slave of Raniere’s.

“It was like, a flash of reality,” she said.

When she finally confronted Raniere, he told her DOS was a walk in the park, she testified Friday.

“You guys think you have it so bad,” she recalled him saying. “But this is nothing compared to other alternative subculture groups.”

Nicole, whose last name is being withheld, continues on the stand in Brooklyn Federal Court on Monday.

This story originally appeared in the New York Post.
 

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Anyone who has vicariously patrolled through leading porn sites can see how grotesque, brutal, ugly, abusive and unhealthy popular smut is; you wonder how much of that is really voluntary; and what sane Anglo woman would really want to be disgustingly reamed out by some vile tattooed chocolate black miscreant unless there were lots of $$$ behind it? Underage, or overage by a room temperature IQ fugging nutsy girl, there should be laws against both.
 

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Anyone who has vicariously patrolled through leading porn sites can see how grotesque, brutal, ugly, abusive and unhealthy popular smut is; you wonder how much of that is really voluntary; and what sane Anglo woman would really want to be disgustingly reamed out by some vile tattooed chocolate black miscreant unless there were lots of $$$ behind it? Underage, or overage by a room temperature IQ fugging nutsy girl, there should be laws against both.
Spend more time with some of our beautiful young modern women and you won't be nearly so surprised or think they aren't enjoying it. They will often choose a guy who is a thug/criminal over successful guy (even assuming they are both similarly good looking). They worship guys like 69ix9ine (you may have no idea who this is, just google him, he's a freak who isn't even attractive but they love him because he is portraying the thug image).

I used to actually buy the women are gentle angel bs that gets spewed by mainstream media. You can even just look at the data, over 50% of women have rape fantasies. Of course that doesn't mean they want to be raped nor am i suggesting that (obviously you can have fantasies that you wouldn't want to actually perform in real life). But it does give you an idea that their sexual desires aren't quite as mundane as I was led to believe when I was younger. Another case in point 50 shades of grey (it wasn't men buying this book by the millions).

Of course there are exceptions and if you are in a religious community I'm sure their behavior is different.
 

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Rainbow Cultural Gardens Closed Down in Monterrey By Mexican Government




Sources in Mexico tell Frank Report that the Mexican government has shut down the dangerous child experiment called Rainbow Cultural Gardens in Monterrey.



However, the child experiment center in Guadalajara remains open.



The closure of the Monterrey Rainbow Center came on the heels of revelations made first in Frank Report but followed up on by Mexican media – many of which are reporting on the trial of Keith Raniere, largely because of the roles of Emiliano Salinas and Rosa Laura Junco – both children of famous Mexicans – former president Carlos Salinas and media magnate Alejandro Junco respectively.



Both Rosa Laura and Emiliano have subjected their own children to the Rainbow child experiment.



https://frankreport.com/2019/06/01/rainbow-cultural-gardens-closed-down-in-monterrey-by-mexican-government/
 

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Clare Bronfman to Be Charged With Additional Crimes

This one you can take to the bank.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the federal investigation into Nxivm and its key players confirmed that Clare Bronfman, Director of Operations for Nxivm, and a Seagram’s heiress, with a reported net worth of about $250 million, will be charged with additional crimes following the results of the current trial of Keith Alan Raniere.

Her crimes will likely include visa fraud, tax evasion, racketeering, and racketeering conspiracy.

Bronfman was charged as a co-conspirator of Raniere’s and avoided racketeering charges when she pleaded guilty in April to two felony counts. The first count was conspiracy to conceal or harbor an illegal alien [the illegal alien was the first witness in the case against Raniere, her first name is Sylvie] for financial gain. The second count was fraudulent use of the late Pam Cafritz’s identification [her American Express Card] after Cafritz’s death.

Bronfman faces sentencing in late July and sentencing guidelines are from 21-27 months, according to Judge Nicholas Garaufis, who will sentence her. Bronfman must also pay $6 million in cash as a fine. Her payment is due tomorrow. In addition, she must pay restitution to Sylvie of $96,605.25.

With the latest news, Bronfman may be facing a much longer prison sentence than a mere 21-27 months. And more fines.

Sources say that, in addition to FBI agents, senior agents for Homeland Security and the IRS are presently investigating – in the Eastern District of New York – with a focus on Bronfman and her role in visa fraud and tax evasion.

The Northern District is also reportedly investigating, but sources indicate that Assistant US Attorney Moira Kim Penza, who has been the lead prosecutor in the instant case, will continue her role as prosecutor regardless of whether the next spate of charges is prosecuted in the Northern District or the Eastern District of New York or both.

In addition to visa fraud and tax evasion charges, Bronfman’s role in the Nxivm racketeering enterprise is being investigated in contemplation of additional racketeering charges.

Among the racketeering acts currently being investigated is her perjury in several legal cases to further the goals of the Nxivm racketeering enterprise. Among the cases Bronfman is suspected of perjuring herself in are a civil and criminal computer trespassing case. In the criminal case, her perjury led to indictments that were later dismissed against Joe O’Hara and Toni Natalie – longtime Nxivm enemies.

In another case, which involved this writer, she is suspected of perjuring herself when she went before a grand jury in the Western District of NY in 2011 and falsely swore that she had entered into a certain written contract that she had previously testified in a civil court case she never entered into.

Representatives of Homeland Security have been in court every day, as well as IRS agents and FBI agents. As per her suspected visa fraud, the pattern is similar to what she admitted she did with Sylvie.

https://frankreport.com/2019/06/17/sources-clare-bronfman-to-be-charged-with-additional-crimes/
 

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Federal Court Sentencing GUIDELINES are stricter than the states. Very few "Time Served" cases with the FEDS. AND any sentence over a year 54 days per year are built in as "Good Time" and nothing more. If the inmate chooses to be a "problem child" while locked up they can lose part or all their good time and do Day for Day.
 

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/nxivm-founder-keith-raniere-convicted-of-running-criminal-sex-cult


NXIVM leader Keith Raniere was convicted Wednesday of using the self-help group he founded as a sex cult for his personal pleasure.

A jury in Brooklyn federal court spent just four hours deliberating Raniere’s guilt. The verdict—guilty on all counts— followed six weeks of relentlessly lurid testimony, where jurors heard Raniere used created a criminal enterprise that allowed him to have sex with underaged girls, forced women he impregnated to have abortions, and commanded his “slaves” illegally monitor on his enemies.

“In short, the defendant and his inner circle used tactics that destroyed his victim's sense of self and ability to trust,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Moira Penza said on Monday. “Making them compliant and vulnerable to being used in whatever way the members of the enterprise chose.”

Raniere’s attorney Marc Agnifilo argued that while the evidence against his client was “repulsive, disgusting and offensive,” it didn’t prove he committed crimes.

“We don’t convict people in this country for being repulsive and offensive,” Agnifilo said on Tuesday. “Disgusting lifestyles aren’t criminal. He’s not mighty. He’s not great. He’s not godlike. He’s none of those things. He sits there and creates curriculum.”

Raniere did not testify during the trial and his defense did not call any witnesses on his behalf.

He was initially charged in 2018 with five other women: co-founder Nancy Salzman and her daughter Lauren, a top lieutenant; Smallville actress and alleged second-in-command Allison Mack; Clare Bronfman, heiress to the Seagram’s fortune and NXIVM’s largest doner; and the group’s bookkeeper Kathy Russell. While all five have since pleaded guilty to racketeering charges, Salzman was the only one to testify against Raniere.

Since 1998, NXIVM amassed an estimated 17,000 members—including billionaire Richard Branson, former Trump advisor Roger Stone, and actress Kristin Kreuk—with $5,000 workshops that promised the skills to promote a path to “greater self-fulfillment.” Prosecutors say it was an illegal pyramid scheme, sucking in new recruits who were made to recruit others. In 2017, authorities opened an investigation into the organization after a New York Times exposé alleged female NXIVM members were being branded and used as Raniere’s playthings.

Less than a year later, Raniere was arrested in Mexico and extradited to the U.S. on charges including sex trafficking, racketeering conspiracy, child exploitation, and child pornography.

Prosecutors allege Raniere, who was hailed by his followers as “the smartest man in the world,” manipulated women for his own sexual gratification under the guise of NXIVM’s mission.

“The strict but carefully constructed image the defendant’s inner circle made for him a humanitarian, leader, mentor and guru. You saw him for what he was: a con man, a predator and a crime boss,” Penza said. “[Raniere] tapped into a never-ending flow of women and money. A crime boss with no limits and no checks on his power.”

Throughout the trial, several women testified about NXIVM’s purported women’s empowerment group, DOS. The women allege it was actually a master-slave program where they were forced to have sex with Raniere, blindy obey their “masters,” and brand themselves with his initials near their crotch with a cautery pen—without anesthesia.
 

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That IS Good News!
:2 thumbs up:
 

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The branding in prison starts at 6am...afterwards you'll be told what cult you'll be in...you may or may not be pimped around...byoboo..bring your own bottle of oil...just sayin'....bring soap on a rope...stay away from doorknobs after someone gifts you a scarf...pray someone sends you eefril...elfin chain mail...very light, indestructible and very fashionable, if you get my drift.
 

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Racketeering: Guilty

Racketeering Conspiracy: Guilty

Wire Fraud conspiracy: Guilty

Forced Labor conspiracy: Guilty

Sex trafficking: Guilty

Sex trafficking conspiracy: Guilty

Attempted sex trafficking: Guilty
 

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Racketeering: Guilty

Racketeering Conspiracy: Guilty

Wire Fraud conspiracy: Guilty

Forced Labor conspiracy: Guilty

Sex trafficking: Guilty

Sex trafficking conspiracy: Guilty

Attempted sex trafficking: Guilty
Probation :)
 

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Racketeering: Guilty

Racketeering Conspiracy: Guilty

Wire Fraud conspiracy: Guilty

Forced Labor conspiracy: Guilty

Sex trafficking: Guilty

Sex trafficking conspiracy: Guilty

Attempted sex trafficking: Guilty
I wonder if he has any dirt on anyone we would be interested in...you know...like the Clintons, other nefarious deep state rats, etc...

One can hope...
 

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This was a HUGE domino that just fell. Im going to post some good stuff. Its all connected.
 

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Richard Mays - Arkansas is the Clinton connection
https://frankreport.com/2019/03/24/raniere-consultant-like-father-like-son-richard-mays-jr-apparently-inherited-father-lack-of-integrity-gene/

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/busted-clinton-arkansas-friend-richard-mays-exposed-as-top-nxivm-cult-member/
This is true CGI is the center of their money laundering and trafficking ops, that's why they were so heavily invested in 3rd world nations schools.

Here's a copypasta of something in notables a couple days ago.

Interesting digs….


What do the Clinton Global Initiative, Northern Triangle, the ObamaAdmin, USAID have in common?

Child trafficking and money laundering right?

Notice the CGI is heavily involved in elementary schools down there

Also notice BHO increasee aid there just before leaving office

Trump just cut off yet another revenue source for the cabal today


Habbening enough for ye?

Sauces

https://borgenproject.org/northern-triangle/

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/commitments/community-schools-life-skills-violence-prevention

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/03/03/fact-sheet-support-alliance-prosperity-northern-triangle

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Inter-American+Development+Bank+Clinton+Global+Initiative+&t=ffcm&atb=v1-1&ia=web

https://www.iadb.org/en

"…Nancy Salzman was a member of the board of the Clinton Global Initiative"
https://www.brainstain.us/2019/05/22/testimony-proves-nxivm-leader-keith-raniere-was-arrested-on-day-of-recommitment-orgy/

https://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Secret-mission-A-child-589818.php

Rainbow Cultural Gardens never had a license to operate:

Child welfare advocate Joseph O'Hara, who used to run a children and family services division in Missouri, says he is "amazed" that the operation, which is headquartered in New York, has not been shut down already.

O'Hara, used to work with Nxivm as a consultant between 2003 and 2004, has filed complaints about the New York branch of Rainbow Cultural Garden with the New York Attorney General and social services.

O'Hara told Sun Online: "They are putting children through this kind of experience from birth and they're not even trained to run a daycare never mind an educational institution.

"People come in with no qualifications and get a few days training from an unqualified trainer and are turned loose on these kids for exorbitant fees.

"In most states you have to be licensed either as a school or a daycare - you can't just look after other people's kids for money without it - especially in a large scale organisation like this.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4925050/posh-brit-school-founded-by-american-cult-leader-under-review-by-watchdog/

The nannies/instructors at RCG were illegal aliens

Trafficking, six ways to Sunday:

https://frankreport.com/2017/11/08/nxivm-crime-a-day-rainbow-cultural-gardens-needs-immediate-investigation-for-childrens-sake/

Tax fraud all day long, too:

"It is believed that little, if any, of the proceeds from the Rainbow Cultural Garden operation was ever declared on tax returns. And, according to reports, none of the Nannies were ever given 1099 Forms to report the income they earned from the operation."

"Robert ‘Robbie’ Chiappone, became a critical witness.

Robbie was the alleged owner of the computer company, E-Mallard Web Corp., where the server for the NXIVM website was hosted. Robbie had registered hundreds of domain names for Mr. Raniere and Clare Bronfman including Nxian.net, the website Mr. O’Hara and others allegedly accessed without permission.

Robbie was the 20-something year old son of Esther Carlson Chiappone, a member of the High Rank of NXIVM [Esther holds the rank of Green Sash, Edge, one stripe].

Robbie’s real job was to drive children to Rainbow Cultural Garden. At some point, Robbie was accused of sexually molesting a girl – and the New York State Police began an investigation. Mr. Raniere and Nancy Salzman worked to persuade parents not to cooperate with the State Police investigation, witnesses said.

No charges were filed. Robbie’s’ name was removed from all domain names and from the company that supposedly owned the server on which the NXIVM website was hosted.

Clare Bronfman originally told police that the server in question was in Saratoga County. But the Saratoga DA was unwilling to prosecute the flimsy computer trespass case."

https://frankreport.com/2017/11/08/nxivm-crime-a-day-rainbow-cultural-gardens-needs-immediate-investigation-for-childrens-sake/
 

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finally some light being shed on this. all of the sexual abuse/mk ultra douibters finally have something to sink their teeth into

those 'child stars' that go crazy in adulthood --- THIS IS WHY, not 'fame'

i read that they had multiple 'clinics' --- LA, NY, couple others
 

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Statement by United States Attorney Richard P. Donoghue after the Conviction of Keith Raniere

https://youtu.be/VOAkSBf4FTY

 

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copy that. no ties to american kids trying to get into (((entertainment))) biz?
We shall see. As others have said this is but the base of the pyramid/tip of the spear, whatever euphemism you want to use. Anons are digging. Some have mentioned Ranier, Weinstein and Epstein are three links in the chain. Q has said Allison Mack is singing. Not to mention the Clinton connection.

However you look at it this is big news with more to come. The silence from leftstream media should be a huge tell.
 

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I have as much faith in the justice system doing the right thing for these kids at about the same level as Blutarsky's GPA

0.0
 

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You're known by the company you keep...


BUSTED: Clinton Arkansas Friend Richard Mays Exposed As Top NXIVM Cult Member


Bill and Hillary Clinton’s close personal friend Richard Mays, a former justice of the Arkansas Supreme Court, participated in an interview with NXIVM cult leader Keith Raniere that has now been scrubbed from the Internet by Raniere, who stands trial for child sex trafficking from Mexico. Keith Raniere has removed the video from YouTube and elsewhere, citing a copyright claim.

Mays’ association with Raniere is well known and documented. NXIVM whistleblower Frank Parlato preserved screenshots of Mays’ interview on the cult leader’s “Keith Raniere Conversations” program, which Big League Politics viewed prior to the video’s removal from the web. Big League Politics is not publishing the video, merely reporting its existence.

The New York Times reported in 1997: “Another Little Rock lawyer, Richard Mays, arranged through the Democratic National Committee for a client, a twice-convicted felon with ties to organized crime, to meet the president at the White House. A Little Rock lobbyist, Paul Berry, joined a Washington lobbying firm whose Asian clients received a picture of Berry golfing with the president, and a promise that his “long association with President Clinton” would provide access and insight to the White House…Richard Mays, yet another Arkansas lawyer who raised money for and befriended Gov. Clinton in Little Rock, also came to Washington in 1993. He joined a lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates.

“I’m sure Richard had a number of contacts with the White House,” said Tim Dickson, a spokesman for Cassidy, which no longer employs Mays. Among the clients Mays assisted was Eric Wynn, a twice-convicted felon with ties to organized crime. Through Mays, Wynn attended a White House coffee with the president, which was arranged by the Democratic National Committee.”

New York Times passage ends

Former NXIVM whistleblower Joseph O’Hara told Big League Politics that Mays was near the top of the cult.

“I had done work down in Arkansas, I had met Richard (Mays) down there. He had great connections with Governor Clinton. His lieutenant governor Tucker became governor. I was trying to get in to make a presentation to the governor. Richard got me the meeting. He got me the meeting with Jim Guy Tucker,” O’Hara said.

“One of the other problems Keith had, he had an unpaid bill in Arkansas and he wanted to get an exoneration in Arkansas so he brought Richard Mays in and he got involved. Richard Mays started taking classes and got his daughter taking classes” at NXIVM.

“There were people who got hooked on it. Richard Mays was one. Gwenn Belcourt was another,” O’Hara said.
 

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He has been given a fair trial NOW let us expedite the execution. :jail: :hang:
 

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They're probably handing him a menu asking him how he likes his steaks cooked and would he like grilled onions with that, perhaps a bottle of wine...i've got no trust either


I'll be happiest if he's shanked by another mongrel and they show pictures of the body, otherwise, nothings going to happen, it's One Guy off the street, One Guy
 

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NXIVM Cult’s Daycare Centers: Human Experiments Left Children Damaged For Life
Published 7 hours ago on Jun 20, 2019 By Patrick Howley

The NXIVM sex cult’s operation of various “Rainbow Cultural Garden” daycare centers is now coming under intense scrutiny following cult leader Keith Raniere’s conviction Wednesday for sex trafficking. The cult was found to have imported child sex slaves from Mexico, even providing them with fake identification to disguise the slaves’ illegal immigrant status. (READ — ‘CRIME BOSS’ — Satanism, Mexico Child Trafficking, Hillary, Schumer, and Gillibrand Ties).

The Rainbow Cultural Garden’s human experiments on children in Albany came to light courtesy of NXIVM whistleblower Frank Parlato, and the state of Florida recently stepped in to shut down the Rainbow Cultural Garden in Miami. The Cultural Garden is overseen by Hillary Clinton donor and illegal bundler Clare Bronfman, who might face more charges including visa fraud in connection to the NXIVM case.

“They do the human fright experiments where they subject women to surprise graphic viewings” similar to A Clockwork Orange, Parlato told Big League Politics. The Albany-based Garden hosted Dr. Brandon Porter’s sick experiments.

“The most diabolical experiments that he conducts are experiments where babies are subjected to a constant succession of strangers who take care of them instead of their parents, and the strangers teach them foreign languages,” Parlato said.

“The cult members’ children, they are pressured to give up their children to Raniere. They pay $10,000 to Raniere for the privilege of having Raniere teach them how to speak.”

Seven different nannies would spend time with the children each day and speak seven different languages, rendering the children illiterate, confused, and permanently intellectually damaged.

“Adults are shellshocked now having been through this,” Parlato said.

“The children are housed with their parents and then the children either go to a school, Rainbow School, or the nannies who were sex slaves come to the house,” Parlato said. “The courses run for 6 months to 7 years or so, at which point Raniere alleges the young child’s brain is most susceptible to these different languages and cultures. They get them right at 6 months and the program has only been around for (a few years) so there’s only a limited number of parents.”

Authorities worldwide have been catching on to the NXIVM cult’s scam daycare centers.

The Miami New Times reported in April 2018 on the Rainbow Cultural Garden in Miami: “Now the State of Florida has ordered the midtown Miami school to shut down immediately after New Times brought the facility to the state’s attention. Florida officials say the school was not currently licensed to operate.

“[The Department of Children and Families] has no tolerance for any activities that put children at risk, including operating an unlicensed child-care facility,” David Frady, a spokesperson for the department, said Thursday. “DCF initiated a child protective investigation and ordered the facility to immediately cease operations this afternoon.'”

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The Rainbow Cultural Garden in London also came under watchdog review.

The Mexican government shut down the Rainbow Cultural Garden in Monterrey.

Rainbow Cultural Gardens have also operated in New York City, Los Angeles, Guatemala, Spain, and elsewhere in Mexico.
 

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Truth is, learning several languages takes a child longer than one who learns just one.

That practice delays language development, but they’re hardly illiterate.... as long as consistency is employed the child will eventually speak two languages.

7 would be an issue, but I suspect in time they’d speak 7 in 4 or 5 years... consistency is the key...
 

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The really disturbing part is, how many other people are involved and it's just coming out as being Bad?

humans sure can be fickle

and stupid and desperate and stupid and great followers of some really terrible shit, etc...did i mention stupid???
 

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Rumors have it that NY Governor is tied into this too.

Maybe that's why his girlfriend, Food Network celebrity, Sandra Lee, put the for sale sign on their house, Lily Pond, that she owns. I guess she's hoping to snag a buyer before Andy Boy's misdeeds taint the reputation of the property?

Trump is probably laughing his ass off in the oval office knowing the details of the case especially since Cuomo holds Trump up as the boogie man every time he speaks.

Something tells me this story is going to be a dark stalking horse national story with lots of elites running for any available crevice to hide in.
 

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Is this tied into that hiding place they found & feds destroyed a few days alter & you never hear of it anymore? 6-8 months ago inNew Mexico or somewhere out that way?
 

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Truth is, learning several languages takes a child longer than one who learns just one.

That practice delays language development, but they’re hardly illiterate.... as long as consistency is employed the child will eventually speak two languages.

7 would be an issue, but I suspect in time they’d speak 7 in 4 or 5 years... consistency is the key...
I knew a man many years ago when I was just a teenager. He was fluent in at least 10 languages if I remember correctly. So he raised his daughter who was 3 or 4 at the time by speaking 5 or 6 different languages to her. I remember her speaking in sentences of multiple languages at the same time. It was wild. The man was for sure a genius and his daughter was walking along in his footsteps.
 

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Keith Raniere told top NXIVM disciples that some


small children are "perfectly happy" having sexual experiences with adults and that it is "society" that considers it abuse,

according to a video shown Friday at his trial.


Raniere, 58, also dictated curriculum in NXIVM teachings that asserted women have reported an "unexpected experience of freedom which occurs during rape."


The man known as "Vanguard" confidently asserted that standards that define abuse — and sexual abuse of children — vary greatly depending on where and when one lived. He noted various ages of consent to sex, which in New York is 17.


"In some states, it's 17, in other parts of the world it's 12," an unshaven Raniere, clad in a black jacket, told a group of acolytes including actress Allison Mack, a top member of his secret "master/slave" club within NXIVM.


"What's abuse in one area is not abuse in another. And what is it really?" Raniere asked. "Is the person a child or is the person adult-like? Does the person have a certain type of cognition, morality to make such a choice?"


Raniere's remarks on video, played during the testimony of FBI agent Michael Weginer, represent the final piece of evidence that prosecutors presented at the NXIVM's co-founder's trial in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn.

Raniere pontificated in the video-chat exchange that many people who "scream abuse" do not understand what they're talking about. He suggested that just because standards classify something as abuse does not mean it is is abuse.


"So they abuse abuse," he said.


https://soundcloud.com/casey_seiler/nxivms-keith-raniere-abuse-is-inconsistent


https://m.timesunion.com/news/article/Raniere-on-tape-Some-children-perfectly-happy-13998037.php


https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/636778944"
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ABUSE HIM, FUCK RANIERE ABUSE HIM ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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