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The Municipal Government

The Municipal United States Government was created by the original Constitutional Agreements, and specifically by The Constitution of the United States adopted in 1790.

The current updated version of The Constitution of the United States was commonly available in bookstores as recently as 2012, when I picked up a copy at Barnes and Noble. It is a simplified, stripped-down version of the original written in modern English with several key restrictions and limitations removed, apparently without notice to or consent of the People presumed to be upholding the other end of the agreement.

I can tell you that reading it was quite a shock to my sensibilities after a lifetime of dealing with the difficulties of reading 18th century legal documents. I can also tell you that like so many other books, documents, court cases, and quotations that have been altered or buried or burned to serve political agendas during the past one hundred and fifty years, when I went back to buy a few more copies, it had disappeared. Out of print.

The physical location of the Municipal United States Government is limited to the ten miles square of Washington, DC, enclosed within the Boundary Stones of that "independent, international city-state" chartered by the Roman Curia and originally administered by the Holy See from 1790 to 1933, whereupon its administration was unlawfully converted and taken over by the Roman Pontificate--- the pagan Holy Roman Empire promoting itself as the "Secular Church".
Apparently this profane religion adores oxymoron expressions and purposefully proliferates such nonsense in order to further promote confusion and illogical thinking. Maybe also as an intelligence test?

This pagan Municipal United States Government has been operating under Roman Civil Law on our shores and its rulers are plenary oligarchs -- the members of "the" United States Congress, as stipulated at Article I, Section 8, Clause 17.

The clear intention of the Founding Fathers was to establish a capital city where everyone could meet in pleasant and secure circumstance, and on even terms. The members of Congress were entrusted to form a city government and keep it in good order for the intended purposes.

That same government has, since 1945, acted to grossly defraud and dis-serve the American States and People and has usurped upon their lawful government for 150 years, acting in perennial Breach of Trust, and since 1934, with increasing boldness and disregard of any law.

They prefer to practice "the Rule of Law" which is no actual Law at all, but merely a proliferation of Court Rules and Procedures designed to enable them to obtain whatever end result their minions desire simply by interpreting certain words in different ways and claiming "judicial discretion".

This same foreign municipal government has established Municipal Districts and Municipal Courts and Municipal STATES OF STATES in every State of the Union, expanded its administration with over 350 new "Agencies" and allowed those agencies to operate under color of law on our shores.

Via the use of "Federal Block Grants" used as bribes with undisclosed consequences---basically kickbacks from racketeering--- the Municipal Government has expanded to over 185,000 municipalities and municipal corporations in this country. And none of them have any right to be here.

The intent of the Founders and Signers of the original Constitutions to provide a congenial meeting place on the banks of the Potomac and their equally simple entrusting of this duty and oversight of the capitol city government to later members of Congress, has been grotesquely expanded and trampled, and stands against the Constitutions, including The Constitution of the United States. As such, their actions and presumptions are null and void.

It is a peculiarity of the Roman Civil Law that the Municipal Government adopted, that you can lie, cheat, steal, and defraud to your hearts delight, so long as you don't get caught. However, once fraud is discovered, everything tainted by it must be disallowed and wiped clean: fraud vitiates everything.

The Great Fraud was discovered by loyal Americans in 1980 and initial action was taken to oppose and expose it.

The Municipal United States Government has been operating against the requirements of the Roman Civil Law ever since, and has continued to defraud Americans and racketeer against them in criminal violation of their Constitutional obligations.

In 2004 these same Americans reported an uptick in Municipal Agency activity aimed at militarization of Municipal Police, importation of foreign military personnel, vast inexplicable building projects staged in Free Trade Zones and the development of FEMA relocation camps, apparently using the same plan as Hitler's Concentration Camps.

We accordingly took our objections to the Holy See in Rome, which is also the seat of government for the Roman Pontificate. We pointed out that our agreements are with the Holy See, not the Roman Pontificate.

We expressed our concerns and objected to the mistreatment, fraud, and mis-characterization of Americans as "citizens of the United States", the threatening actions undertaken by the Municipal United States Government in violation of their Constitutional obligations, and much more.

For the next seven years, we served Notice and Due Process upon Municipal Employees at all levels of the Municipal United States Government, including members of the Municipal United States Congress. In 2011, the Holy See closed the Roman Pontificate and moved to liquidate the underlying trusts. In 2014, we finished the Notice and Due Process, and issued our findings as a Final Civil Order Judgment.

We also issued General Civil Orders to the Joint Chiefs in July of 2014, alerting them to the looming danger posed by militarization of the municipal police and Agency Personnel, construction of concentration camps on our soil, purchase of billions of rounds of ammunition and other vast armament supplies including 30,000 guillotines by the Municipal United States Government, the presence of foreign -- especially Chinese factory workers in large numbers in Free Trade Zones located at critical communication and transportation hubs, and the sale of military equipment and natural resources such as Uranium to both the Russians and Chinese Governments by members of the Municipal Government.

In this way, their cover was blown and no plausible deniability remained for the Joint Chiefs, either.

With the selection of Pope Francis and the retirement of Pope Benedict XVI, progress ground to a halt. Nothing truly effective has been done to shut down the operations of the rogue Municipal United States Government, which owes its charter to the Roman Curia. Their operations were liquidated on paper, but they were allowed to form a new series of corporations, and sail right on. The Great Fraud allowed by the Roman Pontificate and its minions in Washington, DC, has not been exposed to the people of this country, much less to the world, and the criminality underlying it has not been brought under control, much less to a stop.

Instead, we have reports of municipal franchise corporations and municipal agency personnel --which have been heavily supplied with military grade armaments via the process already described-- getting "ready for action" against innocent American civilians.

The lawful government of this country, The United States of America, has done and is doing everything that it can do to protect the people and to recoup the purloined assets of this country. We have called out the Holy See and we hold the Roman Catholic Church and the Roman Curia absolutely responsible for this Gross Breach of Trust and commercial contract; we also hold the British Monarch responsible for these crimes against us.

Let it be set before the whole world and particularly the members of the United Nations Organization, that the Roman Curia controls all incorporated governments via the issuance of charters, so that action by the United Nations is ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.
Let it be seen that the Roman Curia also holds the charter and is responsible for the Municipality of Washington, DC, and that any action undertaken by the Municipal United States Government is also ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.

Finally, let it be seen that the Pope also indirectly controls the British Territorial United States, which is a Commonwealth overseen by the British Monarch in behalf of the Pope.

All roads lead to Rome, and any "civil war" engaged in on our soil in violation of our Public Law and our Land Law and our international treaties and our solemn trust indentures and the service contracts owed to us, is fronted by the Pope on both sides of the issue.

Whereupon we bring forward our condemnation of the Pope and the Roman Curia for promoting and allowing this situation to exist and for pretending that they are not fully responsible for it and accountable to our lawful Government for this circumstance.

The Pope cannot fight against himself, and he cannot order his minion, the Queen, to fight against him, either, and have any plausible excuse for the disruption, bloodshed, and misery this one man is proposing to cause by fomenting a phony civil war on the soil of a foreign nation -- ours.

We ask all treaty and alliance members for their urgent assistance to prevent any such travesty, and ask them to begin Counterpoint Operations to make sure that the Pope and the Queen both receive our message via taking up stations.

The same Roman Pontificate which has used the Catholic Church as a storefront for its venal operations is proposing to use the United Nations in the same way --- as a storefront to hide its own unsavory activities and get innocent people to pay for their own destruction.

As long as the governments of the various countries continue to operate as incorporated franchises under charter and patent of the Roman Curia, this is a foregone conclusion, and so is the predatory criminality with which the Holy Roman Empire has fostered and formed the threat of global Corporate Feudalism.

So now you know what we are up against and who is behind it, no matter how they twist and turn it. This is just another instance of "Holy Roman Empire" war-mongering for profit, another instance where these pirates in clerical costume and nice suits propose to kill off their Primary Creditors rather than return our purloined assets to us--- and offer to use our own assets and our own deluded countrymen to do their dirty work, too.

Let every American wake up and smell the java. Let every officer of every Municipal Agency lay down his gun or never pick it up. Let every official of the Municipal United States Government hang their heads in shame.

In the same way that they have waged a secretive and unholy war by guile and deceit upon the American States and People, they have promoted the same aims of "quiet conquest" against the whole world and every national government, and they now propose to ignore even their own Roman Civil Law.

Many members of the United States Military and the Federal Civil Service have been led astray by promises of great wealth and reward for themselves.

The bankers have led them on and they have sold their honor for nothing.

And this, to date, is the status of the Municipal United States Government.
 
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Judge Anna means well, but she is unfamiliar with what the Act of 1871 actually did.

It only created a CITY GOVERNMENT FOR THE CITY OF WASHINGTON, D.C. AND NOTHING MORE!

It had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT (WHICH IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE CITY OF WASHINGTON. D.C.).

THE ORGANIC ACT OF 1871

THREE SOURCES OF CONFUSION IN AMATEUR LEGAL THEORY:
Amateur legal theorists are PATHOLOGICALLY DESPERATE to discredit and delegitimize the FEDERAL government of “We the People”. So, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the FEDERAL government is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". Two such FEDERAL statutes cited by amateur legal theorists in support of this false claim are the "Act Of 1871" and "Title 28 U.S.C. (15)(a)".

THE ACT OF 1871:
The Act Of 1871 reads in pertinent part, "...[We hereby create] a government by the name of [the "CITY" of] THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA [not the ”United States Of America”] by which name it is hereby constituted a BODY CORPORATE [this term is a source of the confusion] for MUNICIPAL [means "CITY"] PURPOSES [not for other purposes]... [and this body is empowered to] exercise all... powers of a MUNICIPAL CORPORATION [this term is also a source of the confusion and actually means "CITY GOVERNMENT"] not inconsistent with [means "CONSISTENT WITH"] the Constitution and the laws of the United States."
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/41st-congress/session-3/c41s3ch62.pdf.

Thus, the Act of 1871 simply created a "CITY" GOVERNMENT for the "CITY" of Washington, D.C., (NOT FOR THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT). But, amateur legal theorists are intellectually unable to tell the difference between the two (a "CITY" GOVERNMENT on one hand and the "ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" on the other hand). Remember, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the FEDERAL government is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS".

But, because the "CITY" of Washington, D.C. is the "seat" of the FEDERAL government and because they mistakenly believe that all corporations in the world are PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporations, Deborah Tavares, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists falsely claim that the terms, "body corporate" and "municipal [ CITY]corporation" (contained in the Act Of 1871) prove that the "ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" (rather than merely the "CITY" GOVERNMENT of Washington, D.C.) IS ITSELF A PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS. https://www.akupressllc.com/150121CriminalCourtDenver.pdf (at page ACTUALLY NUMBERED "3" in the 4th paragraph at about 50% through the text). But, this is not so.

FACT:
There is NOTHING about the Act of 1871 which has any affect whatsoever on the FEDERAL government itself. Instead, The Act of 1871 only relates to the "CITY" government of Washington, D.C. Likewise, NOTHING about the Act Of 1971 makes the FEDERAL government itself (or the "CITY" of Washington, D.C. for that matter) a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION which makes "PROFITS" for its private "STOCKHOLDERS". But, Deborah Tavares, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.

TITLE 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a):
Title 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)(a)
reads in pertinent part, "DEFINITIONS... As used in THIS chapter [ONLY, and NOT for any other purpose],... United States means- ... a federal corporation [this term is a source of the confusion]... ." FACT: Title 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15) (a) merely provides the definitions (only) SOLELY FOR A SINGLE FEDERAL CHAPTER (AND THOSE DEFINITIONS DO NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER CHAPTER AND CANNOT BE USED IN CONNECTION WITH ANY OTHER PURPOSE). This is why the VERY FIRST WORDS of Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 read, “As used in THIS chapter [and NOT other chapters or for other purposes]... ." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002 (See the VERY FIRST WORDS at the TOP of this section.). The SINGLE CHAPTER for which Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 provides definitions is the FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT (chapter 176).

But remember, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the United States is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". So, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists falsely claim that Title 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a) proves that the United States is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". But, this is not so.

The SINGLE CHAPTER for which Title 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a) provides definitions (chapter 176) relates to the "PROCEDURE" ONLY that the "United States" must follow when collecting certain debts. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3001. Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 (15) (a) DOES NOT actually define the "United States" as a ”federal corporation”. Instead, it actually defines a “federal corporation” (like AMTRAK) as the “United StatesSOLELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT.

APPLICATION:
So, if AMTRAK (a "federal corporation") sought to collect on such a debt, it would have to follow the SAME "PROCEDURE" set forth in the Fair Debt Collection Procedure Act THAT ANY OTHER PART OF THE "UNITED STATES” GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW TO COLLECT SUCH A DEBT. It is that simple. But, Deborah Tavares, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.

FACT:
This definition IN THE FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT does not mean that the entire “United States” is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which generates "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS".

DUN & BRADSTREET:
Deborah Tavares, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists mistakenly conclude that all governments and governmental agencies are "corporations" because BOTH governments and government agencies ARE LISTED IN "DUN & BRADSTREET". See the bottom paragraph on page 2 of 6 here. https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/usa-inc-handout1.pdf. Scroll down to about 80% through the text of this article here. https://itnjcommittee.org/did-you-know/corporations-posing-as-governments/. But, contrary to what amateur legal theorists mistakenly believe, DUN & BRADSTREET DOES NOT REFLECT A "LIST" OR "REGISTRY" OF "CORPORATIONS".

Instead, Dun & Bradstreet merely reflects the CREDIT WORTHINESS of ANY ORGANIZATION (corporate or otherwise) with which other organizations (corporate or otherwise) might enter into contracts.

APPLICATION: So, if you were the CEO of a building contractor that builds highways and if you were contacted by a state government to build a highway in the state, you could look up that state government in Dun & Bradstreet to determine whether it pays its building contractors on time. It is that simple. Thus, Dun & Bradstreet likewise DOES NOT reflect that a government is a "corporation" (much less a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation). But, amateur legal theorist do not know enough to even realize this.

THE ACTUAL REAL LAW ITSELF ON WHETHER GOVERNMENTS ARE "CORPORATIONS" FOR AMATEUR LEGAL THEORY PURPOSES:

1). Thompson v. Scutt, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18159286216902234518&q=+%22Thompson+v.+Scutt%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theories that the state and federal government are "CORPORATIONS"). In this case, the court wrote, "Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] also contends that THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND THE UNITED STATES ARE CORPORATIONS, and as such, can only "interface" with other artificial entities, not natural persons like Petitioner [a false claim that Rod Class also makes]. In support of his argument, Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] cites the Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act (FDCPA), 28 U.S.C. 3002 et seq [discussed above], and the Michigan Constitution, Article VII, section 1, NEITHER OF WHICH SUPPORTS HIS CLAIM THAT THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE CORPORATIONS [read this phrase again]. Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] contends that, AS CORPORATIONS, the State of Michigan and the federal government cannot "concern [themselves] with anything OTHER THAN CORPORATE, ARTIFICIAL ENTITIES AND INTANGIBLE ABSTRACTIONS [a false claim that Rod Class also makes].... .’' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, SUCH REASONING IS DEVOID OF LEGAL SUPPORT and contrary to common sense." (at paragraph 9 at about 40% through the text of the case). The court continues at footnote 2 near the end of the case as follows, "The FDCPA [discussed above] DOES NOT STATE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A CORPORATION [much less a private, for-profit corporation]. Article VII of the Michigan constitution merely indicates that 'each organized county shall be a BODY CORPORATE [not a private, for-profit corporation].'" (at footnote 2 near the end of the case).

2). DuBose v. Kasich, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4379559949396907798&q=+%22Dubose+v.+Kasich%22+%22sets+forth+his+own+versions%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including the amateur legal theory that the state and federal government are "CORPORATIONS"). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued various government officials. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] sets forth his own versions of various 'sovereign citizen' [amateur legal] theories. Such [amateur legal] theories involve the alleged CORPORATE STATUS OF OHIO AND THE UNITED STATES... ." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "... [F]ederal courts have routinely recognized that such [amateur legal] theories are MERITLESS and WORTHY OF LITTLE DISCUSSION [read that phrase again]... . " (at the 13th paragraph, just above section "IV" at about 95% through the text).

3). Florance v. Buchmeyer, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9160057929430622764&q=%22Florance+v.+Buchmeyer%22+%22because+it+is+a+federal+corporation%22&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the state and federal government are federal "CORPORATIONS".). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued various government agencies and officials. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] responds that the STATE OF TEXAS is not protected by immunity under the Eleventh Amendment because it is a 'FEDERAL CORPORATION'... ." (at section "D" at about 65% through the text of the case). Later in the text in section "k" the court held otherwise and wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] cites 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] in the paragraph pertaining to his claim against the USA... . To the extent that Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] relies on § 3002(15) [discussed above] to sue the USA, IT DOES NOT APPLY BECAUSE § 3002 [discussed above] IS SIMPLY A DEFINITIONS STATUTE IN THE CHAPTER THAT AUTHORIZES THE USA TO... [COLLECT CERTAIN DEBTS]." (in section "k" at about 85% through the text).

4). U.S. v. Petersen, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4484968305092096232&q=%22US+v.+PETERSEN%22+%22federal+corporation%22&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "... Defendant [an amateur legal theorist] contends that 'THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A FEDERAL CORPORATION, and one that is 'located in the ["CITY" of the] District of Columbia'. ... [The Defendant] further claims that the 'United States Government [rather than merely the "CITY" government of Washington, D.C.] was officially [c]ommercialized in 1871,' apparently arguing that this entity's powers 'shall be limited to the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia.' ... . BUT [THE] DEFENDANT'S RELIANCE ON 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] IS MISPLACED [read that phrase again]. That statute is simply a definitional provision DEFINING the "United States" as, among other options, 'a federal corporation' SOLELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE CHAPTER WHICH IT IS PART... . The applicability of [this] Chapter... is confined to CIVIL actions [filed] by the United States [against debtors]... to recover a judgment on a debt... . This CRIMINAL action [this case] is not [such a] a CIVIL debt collection action [so that definition is inapplicable in this case]... .In addition, [THE] DEFENDANT'S RELIANCE ON THE... [Act Of 1871 discussed above], IS LIKEWISE MISPLACED [read that phrase again] as that statute simply 'created a ["CITY"] government by the name of the District of Columbia [not "The United States Of America"],' a municipal corporation [which means a "CITY" government] with ‘jurisdiction over all the territory within the [CITY] limits of the District.’... . The present CRIMINAL prosecution of [the] Defendant [in this case] has nothing to do with the powers that Congress delegated to the ["CITY" of the ] District [Of Columbia. So, THAT DEFINITION DOES NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE]." (at the 13th, 14th and 15th paragraphs at about 35% through the text).

5). U.S. v. Wiggins, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4484968305092096232&q=%22US+v.+PETERSEN%22+%22federal+corporation%22&hl=en&as_sdt=4000. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "Wiggins [an amateur legal theorist]... ERRONEOUSLY CITES 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] to support his assertion that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION... . [But, t]hat statute governs the collection of federal debt.... . Section 3002(15) [discussed above] merely provides that the term "United States," WHEN USED "IN THIS... [STATUTE]," refers to a federal corporation, agency, entity, or instrumentality of the United States [not a private, for-profit corporation]." (at footnote 18).

6). Kitchens v. Becraft, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14825357831238654036&q=%22Kitchens+v.+Becraft%22&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF’S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued a Texas state official]. The court wrote, "Next, Kitchens [an amateur legal theorist] contends that 'THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION' and thus has no sovereign authority." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "[T]he Plaintiff's [Kitchen's] objections ARE WITHOUT MERIT [read that phrase again]." (at the 6th paragraph at about 50% through the case).

7). U.S. v. Beavers, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8251887802426142230&q=%22US+v.+Beavers%22+%22United+States+is+a+corporation%22&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS' AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including their amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, the court wrote, "The Defendants [both amateur legal theorists] assert that THE "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" IS A FEDERAL CORPORATION that went bankrupt in 1933 [a false claim that Rod Class also makes] and lacks jurisdiction to prosecute criminal matters... .' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "THE COURT FINDS THE DEFENDANT'S [the amateur legal theorists'] ARGUMENTS TO BE MERITLESS [read this phrase again]." (at the 17th-18th paragraph at about 50% through the text). At footnote 9, the court continues, "As explained [above], the Defendants cite 28 U.S.C. § 3002 [discussed above] to support their claim that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION. HOWEVER, A COMPLETE READING OF 28 U.S.C. § 3002 BELIES [means "REFUTES"] THIS INTERPRETATION." (at footnote 9).

8). Kubicki v U.S., https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=18372121264929306790&q=%22Kubicki+v.+US%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, a tax protester/amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued the United States. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] argues that Defendant [the United States] has no immunity [from his suit], BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES HAS IDENTIFIED ITSELF AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION for purposes of tax collection activity.' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "To support this proposition, Plaintiff [the amateur legal theorist] cites 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15)[discussed above]. THIS SECTION, HOWEVER, DOES NOT DEFINE THE UNITED STATES AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION for purposes of tax collection. Instead, IT MERELY PROVIDES THE DEFINITION OF THE "UNITED STATES’ FOR PURPOSES OF THE [SAME] STATUTE [IN WHICH IT APPEARS] AS A ‘FEDERAL CORPORATION’ [not a private, for-profit corporation]... ." (at the 8th paragraph not including block-indented portions at about 60% through the text).

9). U.S. v. Boyce, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15212483763058805690&q=%22US+v.+Boyce%22+%22as+a+federal+corporation%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE TAX PROTESTERS' AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including their amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "The Boyces [both tax protesters and amateur legal theorists]... assert that the court's jurisdiction is limited to individuals residing within the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia citing 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above], WHICH DEFINES THE "UNITED STATES" AS... A FEDERAL CORPORATION... . [T]hey contend the court's jurisdiction extends only to the section of territory occupied by 'THE ULTIMATE PARENT FEDERAL CORPORATION,' i.e. the ["CITY" of The] District of Columbia." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "THIS ARGUMENT IS UNAVAILING [is an amateur legal theory]. Section 3002(15) [discussed above] defines 'United States ONLY for purposes of 28 U.S.C. § 3001...', which governs 'federal debt collection procedure'. IT DOES NOT DEFINE THE 'UNITED STATES' AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION FOR PURPOSES OF TAX LAWS [much less as a private for-profit corporation], NOR DOES IT CIRCUMSCRIBE [means "LIMIT"] THE COURT'S JURISDICTION. [citing] Kubicki v. United States [the case directly above], ... '[the subject statute]... DOES NOT DEFINE THE UNITED STATES AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION FOR PURPOSES OF TAX COLLECTION [mush less a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation].'" (at the 15th full paragraph at about 25% through the text).

10). U.S. v. Smith, http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/OPINIONS/JONES/1-10MJ00061.PDF. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION". In this case, the court wrote, "... Smith [the Defendant/amateur legal theorist] stated: '... in no way, shape or form am I an employee of the Federal government or am I an employee of the FEDERAL CORPORATION under the United States Code Title 28, Section 28 Section 3002, Subsection 15, Section A [discussed above] where THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION AND IT'S A FOR PROFIT CORPORATION as spelled out there.'" (at the 1st paragraph on page 7 of this case as it appears in this link). But, the court held otherwise and called the Defendant's amateur legal theories, including this one, "OUTLANDISH" and actually required the Defendant to undergo an INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC EXAMINATION (a psychiatric evaluation while a patient incarcerated in a mental institution). Note: Rod Class has been forced to undergo several such psychiatric examinations for similar reasons.

11). Joiner v. Perry, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5999032368422140072&q=+%22Joiner+v.+Perry%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PRISONER'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including the amateur legal theory that the United States is a CORPORATION). In this case, a prisoner/amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued a North Carolina state official. The court wrote, "He [the prisoner/amateur legal theorist] also testified that 'THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION' to which he holds no 'allegiance', and that therefore the United States may not tax him." (at footnote 3 at the very end of the case). But, the court held otherwise and called the prisoner’s arguments "PATENTLY FRIVOLOUS" and NOT ONLY THREW THE CASE OUT OF COURT, but actually FINED THE PRISONER for making such ridiculous claims.

12). State v. Hartsoe, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=83340477619696621&q=+%22STate+v.+hartsoe%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case, the court wrote, "Hartsoe's [the Defendant's] affidavit was based upon his belief that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, which created 'straw men,' fictitious persons separate from real individuals, for each man and woman in order TO CONTROL the people of the United States. Hartsoe [the Defendant] refused to submit to the CORPORATE government and filed his affidavit denying his [own imaginary] 'straw man' or [imaginary] CORPORATE existence." But, the court ruled otherwise.

13). Miles v. U.S.,
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3357725607032486211&q=+%22Miles+v.+US%22++%22the+united+states+is+a+corporation%22&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case the Defendant filed what amounted to a Motion For Relief From Conviction. The court wrote, "The grounds [in the Defendant's motion] include... that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION and does not have the power to prosecute individuals, and that citizens are not subject to statutory jurisdiction under the Constitution [a false claim that Rod Class also makes]." (at footnote 1). But, the court held otherwise and unceremoniously THREW THE CASE OUT OF COURT.


14). U.S. v. Provost, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17406735750311497964&q=+%22US+v.+Provost%22++%22filed+a+request+to+answer%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case, the court wrote, "... Defendant [the tax protester] filed a delinquent request to answer [the complaint], claiming that he had 'a good faith belief that the UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION and that there was no parity with the FLESH AND BLOOD MAN [a false claim that Rod Class also makes].'" But, the court ruled otherwise, DENIED the tax protester's request to file a delinquent answer and UPHELD THE DEFAULT JUDGMENT AGAINST HIM.

15). Maxwell v. Snow, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15464772622202031639&q=+%22Maxwell+v.+Snow%22+&hl=en&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL THE TAX PROTESTER'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a CORPORATION). In this case, a tax protester unsuccessfully sued a U.S. Treasury official and claimed that, "Texas is not part of the United States, and that the United States itself is unconstitutional because it is not a republican form of government", that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A "CORPORATION", that "the federal government’s jurisdiction is limited to [within] the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia and [to within the borders of] other federally owned lands". But, the court held otherwise and held that such amateur legal theories were "WITHOUT MERIT", "PATENTLY FRIVOLOUS" and "LIKEWISE FRIVOLOUS."

THE BOTTOM LINE:
Note that ALL amateur legal theories (ex: "all governments are corporations") are always EXACTLY BACKWARDS AND OPPOSITE to what the REAL law actually is. There are NO EXCEPTIONS! Amateur legal theories ARE NOT REAL. They are FAKE. They are LIES. Amateur legal theories and the REAL law are the EXACT OPPOSITES of one another. Amateur legal theories are an IMAGINARY ALTERNATIVE to the REAL law that is actually used by the REAL legal system and the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD. Amateur legal theories have a 100% FAILURE RATE in court BECAUSE THEY ARE FAKE. They are NOT INTENDED TO WORK and they DO NOT WORK! They never have. They never will. Their SOLE PURPOSE is to attempt to discredit and delegitimize our REPUBLICAN form of government, the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" and to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. Nothing more.


FACT:
Just in case you do not already know, all FUTURE DECISIONS on the subject of whether governments are corporations WILL FOLLOW THE DECISIONS SHOWN ABOVE (CALLED "PRECEDENT"). So, the law on this subject will always be the same as reflected in the cases above.


https://definitions.uslegal.com/b/binding-precedent/.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent.
https://dictionary.thelaw.com/binding-precedent/.
 
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States, and that the United States itself is unconstitutional because it is not a republican form of government", that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A "CORPORATION", that "the federal government’s jurisdiction is limited to [within] the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia and [to within the borders of] other federally owned lands". But, the court held otherwise and held that such amateur legal theories were "WITHOUT MERIT", "PATENTLY FRIVOLOUS" and "LIKEWISE FRIVOLOUS."

More garbage from snoopy.
I have not seen anything about the Act of 1871 in Anna's writing on this topic. So apples are not oranges, surprise, surprise.

None of those words are written in English.

 
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i was hoping for so much more...
 

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More garbage from snoopy.
I have not seen anything about the Act of 1871 in Anna's writing on this topic. So apples are not oranges, surprise, surprise.

None of those words are written in English.

So, you disagree with Snoopy's post because Anna didn't specifically mention the Act of 1871? But what about the substance of his argument? I'm not claiming any specialized knowledge of this subject, just trying to understand your objection to his reply.

I've read some about the issue, but can't prove or disprove one view or another. I have my doubts about the conspiratorial view, only because it is so arcane, that few people in or out of government could ever understand it, let alone apply it in practice.
 

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So, you disagree with Snoopy's post because Anna didn't specifically mention the Act of 1871? But what about the substance of his argument? I'm not claiming any specialized knowledge of this subject, just trying to understand your objection to his reply.

I've read some about the issue, but can't prove or disprove one view or another. I have my doubts about the conspiratorial view, only because it is so arcane, that few people in or out of government could ever understand it, let alone apply it in practice.
Well just look at her reply.
What do you see?
I see goboldygook.
Watch the video.
 

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So, you disagree with Snoopy's post because Anna didn't specifically mention the Act of 1871? But what about the substance of his argument? I'm not claiming any specialized knowledge of this subject, just trying to understand your objection to his reply.

I've read some about the issue, but can't prove or disprove one view or another. I have my doubts about the conspiratorial view, only because it is so arcane, that few people in or out of government could ever understand it, let alone apply it in practice.
OK, then. Number one. I am just some guy who reposts Anna's stuff. I'm not trained in law and I'm not qualified to write anything for or about what Anna says.
What I see when I read Anna's messages is all the stuff I learned about the way "our" govt is supposed to work.

But it doesn't. And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?

Everything I see is that all that surrounds us is one real big conspiracy. From religion to banks to govt are one big conspiracy.

You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME?
 

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NOW THAT WE KNOW THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?

Over 2,000 researchers observed the Rod Class Washington, DC Gun Case determined to answer this question:

What Foundational Law underpins the current Judicial System in the United States?

The case was heard in the UNITED STATES DIS-TRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF CO-LUMBIA. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was the Plaintiff. RODNEY CLASS was the Defendant. Case Number Criminal Action CR 13 – 253 (with Judges Initials added later to designate a superseded case number.)

The first question the scholars wanted to know is how UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could bring a criminal charge against a civilian. There is no Constitutional mandate of any kind to allow any Court to charge a civilian with a criminal offense. Who is the injured party? A criminal charge, ac-cording to the rules, has to be heard before a “Jury of his peers” and only when someone has been injured.

Why was Class charged on a DC city gun ordi-nance that had been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court? Was the City of Washington, DC, and their courts, not under the supervision of the Supreme Court?

By what authority did UNITED STATES OF AMERICA presume any jurisdiction over a civil-ian? Further, WHICH ENTITY was bringing the charge?

Most people miss the significance of this study. Let me explain: Rod Class is best known for his North Carolina Ruling in 2010-2011 that got two Judges to admit on the public record that the Agents working for the STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA were NOT Public Officials but were in fact, private entities, Corporations. The ruling went so far as to state that ‘the elected Governor was not under the Executive Branch’ and therefore not classified as a Public Official answerable to the people of the State.

We now had it on the Public Record: The Judges, Court Officers, Law Enforcement, City Municipali-ties, DMV, STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, even the Governor’s office, were NOT part of the Execu-tive, Legislative, nor Judicial Branch of Government under the Constitution. They were Administrative Agents under the jurisdiction of a foreign power. Our “government” was not what we believed it to be.

The question was germane: Who is UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? Who pays the salary of the Court Officials? How does a private, for-profit Corporation presume to have jurisdiction over a peaceful inhabitant, a civilian? If you visited the parking lot of Walmart, and you weren’t an employ- ee of Walmart, you would look at the security guard with disbelief if he arrested you for not following one of the rules and regulations of Walmart. Only the employees of the Corporation are subject to their rules and regulations.

The NC ruling caused the 2,000 Researchers to put a laser focus on the Rod Class DC Gun Case.
The researchers were legal and law scholars. They knew the rules and regulations under which the Judiciary are mandated to act, according to the Constitution, according to American Jurispru-dence, and according to the Fiduciary duties of the Judiciary as defined by their Job Description in various legislative acts, congressional records, and under Statutory Law. Many of the scholars were well-versed in Contract Law, UCC Law, Trust and Equity Law, Common Law, Natural Law, even Ecclesiastical and Canon Law. Most had a working understanding of the Rules of Probate. Many were well-versed in the Laws of War, the Leiber Code, the War Powers Act, and more. Most understood the difference between Admiralty Law, Roman Civil Law, Jurisprudence, and Common Law.

None of the researchers were lawyers. They were not under Oath to the British Accreditation Regis- try. (BAR Association) They were impartial observ-er’s intent on understanding what form of law was in operation in the DC Court room, whether or not the Court Officers followed their own Rules, and what Jurisdiction and Venue they claimed as their authority over a civilian population.

There were some major surprises. The conclu-sions were devastating to the American people. It explains why the prison population of America has exploded. It explains why there is no remedy and no relief, and why pro-se litigants only win 3% of the time. It explains the explosion in foreclosure cases where many have lost their homes while the banks and their cronies create millions off of the paperwork; why Child Support Enforcement often ends in Debtor’s Prison; why a simple traffic viola- tion can land people in prison, result in exorbitant fines, support a rather large outgrowth of “sup- ported services” like probation officers, for-profit prisons, ankle bracelets, DUI schools, and more.

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE CASE
RodClass1

Rod Class is a teacher who can quote Statutory Law, Constitutional Law, Military Law, Common Law and more, with precise definitions and full un-derstanding of any paperwork a Prosecutor might write. Class was arrested in May, 2013, on a routine visit to the capitol to visit what he thought of as his Congressional Representative. He parked in his usual spot. When he returned to his Jeep, it was surrounded by numerous law enforcement person- nel.

Rod Class has a Concealed Carry permit from the State of North Carolina. He has a Congressional appointment as a Private Attorney General, and is a designated Constitutional Bounty Hunter whose main duty is to hold Public Officials accountable. He had no weapon of any kind with him. They were in a gun locker in his jeep. He did NOT have any “firearms” as defined by Statute. Yet he was charged with two violations of “possession of a firearm” by the Capitol Hill Police. The charge was serious, carrying a 10-year prison sentence and a possible fine of $250,000.

The bizarre case that unfolded is typical of current- day courtroom behavior in the USA. Except for one thing: a trained group of observers could document exactly how and in what manner the various Court Officers violated the rules of conduct that laid out their duties and responsibilities, and the Rules of the Court. Class filed the evidence of their errors into the Court record. The Judge found ways to deny the filing, even though this is a viola- tion of due process and makes any court official who has participated in such attempts at evidence suppression guilty of numerous crimes.

The most significant point is that Rod Class acted as his own counsel, but as a Third Party Interve-nor. Class, the Civilian, represented the GOV-ERNMENT COPYRIGHT TRADEMARK NAME RODNEY DALE CLASS. Some people refer to this entity as “The Strawman.” It is the corporate fiction created by the birth event recorded by the Depart ment of Health/Vital Statistics by the Constitutional “government” Corporation and then transferred to the Administrative Agents who supervise the Bank-ruptcy under the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 for the Banking Cartel.

The SOURCE DOCUMENTS that Class introduced as evidence into his case show how the people of America have been under siege as an occupied na-tion since 1933. The complete takeover by a foreign power occurred without the people’s knowledge. HOW the birth registration creates the methods used by the various Administrative Agencies to “harvest the resources” of the “human capital” un-der their management is at issue in this case. How the Administrative Agents have embezzled those funds, stolen them from both the American people, and the “government” by failure to pay off the Public Debt, is also at issue.

This detailed study was carried out over a two-year period.

I was one of those researchers ….here’s what we learned:

1. When Judge Kessler warned Rod Class he had to know their rules and their laws in order to represent himself in her courtroom, Rod chal- lenged her to reveal what law was in operation in the courtroom. He filed the Constitution, the com- plete annotated book of Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and the local rules of the court into the case record. He also brought up American Juris- prudence. This was in July, 2014.

2. Judge Kessler was removed from the case, the second Judge to fall under the relentless on- slaught of Class’s efforts to hold them accountable to their own rules. Two prosecutors had already left the case.

3. The buck stopped with the arrival of Chief Judge Roberts. So did any semblance that any Rule of Law would be followed in the DC Gun Case. Stunned observers were left with one irrefutable conclusion:

a. Chief Judge Roberts was presiding over a War Crimes Tribunal. USC 50- War and National Defense – Chapter 3, Section 23 carries the only judicial reference that would allow a Judge to prosecute such a frivolous charge as a serious criminal felony.

b. The ONLY EXPLANATION for the case could be found under the Laws of War: Rod Class was being charged for a BREACH OF THE PEACE DURING A TIME OF WAR.

c. How could a civilian be picked up on charges and treated as if he was a prisoner of war? Vietnam came to mind.

d. It slowly dawned on the observers: War on Drugs, War on Drunk Driving, War on “Deadbeat Dads,” War on Terror: Endless War! Finally, the form of Law was starkly revealed: ALL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, ALL HOME FORE CLOSURE CASES, ALL CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT CHARGES, ANY CIVIL CASE THAT CARRIES A CRIMINAL PENALTY falls under the Laws of War.

e. The Constitution had been suspended during the Civil War, a new Constitution similar in name had been substituted by the Corporations posing as Governments, and the American people had never been told.

f. The population of America was “captured” in 1933, converted to Enemies of the State by the Amendatory Act of 1933 (Trading with the Enemy/War Powers Act), all their property had been “conscripted for the War Effort” (War Powers Act of 1917) and they were no longer treated as civilians of an occupied territory. They were “enemies of the State”, duly conquered by the Bankster Corporations posing as governments. They were reduced to slaves and war criminals.

g. The SOURCE DOCUMENTS put all this into perspective as the case unfolded. HOW the American people have been pirated and plundered by the Courts and put in jail so that for-profit prisons can proliferate was more than the Researchers could handle at times.

h. Under the War Powers Act, during a National Emergency, anyone deemed a “war criminal” was subject-to the Jurisdiction of a Martial Military Procedure with no rights nor remedies available to any one so charged. It appears that any one who claims to be a “US CITIZEN” as the court defines that term is a WAR CRIMINAL subject to their jurisdiction.

i. The substituted constitution spells it out that an enemy charged as a war criminal can be treated as a slave with no consequences to the one levying the charge.

4. The observers were horrified as this mild- mannered Southern Gentleman was literally kid- napped from the VA hospital, shackled, and thrown in jail for 21 days for a “contempt of court” charge that could not then be explained.

5. The observers were surprised that Karen Hudes appeared at the Court hearing, and visited Rod Class in jail. He was told by Hudes that ‘the people could not expect the criminal justice system to reform 100%. They would be lucky if it reached a 70% level of fairness.’ In other words, Class stand- ing up to “The System” would result in more har- assment for him and his followers.

6. It was later learned that the arrest warrant came from a new case. All the paperwork from the original case had been sealed, his filings kept off
of Pacer, and a new case by the same number, but adding the initials of the Judge, “superseded” the original case. The arrest warrant had proceeded from a secret Grand Jury hearing that Class was not informed about, and a new charge “superseded.”

a. Hint: 2000 observers downloading both sides of all the paperwork now know the truth – with such devastating evidence of prosecutors tampering with definitions, tampering with the Grand Jury, and Judges nullifying the right to Trial By Jury. Not to mention proof that Class was being treated as a WAR CRIMINAL.

7. When he reappeared before the Judge, Class noticed the new case number, clarified that a change had been made, but was forced to accept a “plea agreement” if he was to ever get out of jail.

8. The observers watched an out-of-control system use force, fear and fraud as their only “authority.”

9. An appeal has been filed, following this method: Keep it simple; Go after the lowest com- mon denominator first. This filing could literally bring down the BAR Association’s hold over the American Legal System. Perhaps that is why it has not yet appeared on Pacer, even though it has been received.

For details, www.talkshoe.com/AIBRadio; Conclusion: It was a very sobering process to watch court officers who did not even attempt to follow the Rule of Law. Instead, the Judges and Prosecutors acted like war profiteers drunk on their own power. They were. The War Powers Act of 1917, as amended by the Banking Emergency Act of 1933, had put the Federal Reserve and their sub- sidiaries, the Bank of International Settlements and the IMF, in charge of all “government services.”

The people themselves have never been told the truth. The courts knew. The BAR Association knew. Those at the head of the municipalities and States knew. They failed to inform the people that, as “Enemy of the State,” the rules had changed. The Judges, Prosecutors and Public Defender took ad- vantage of the game. They felt entitled to the “spoils of war.” The people were fair game. Any agent posing as a public official who has taken advantage of the civilian population is guilty of crimes against humanity. Nothing excuses the deceptive acts and practices carried out in broad daylight upon an unsuspecting population.

NOW THAT WE KNOW THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?
ontwikkelenExposing the methods used by the Courts to claim authority over the people is the first step. These agents have no more authority than a Security Guard at Wal-Mart. When the people fully under- stand the mind game that has been played upon them, they will be so shocked that they will do whatever it takes to create a truly fair and equitable justice system. That system does not currently exist within the Courts run by these Corporations pos- ing as governments. Instead, government has been reduced to it’s latin roots: Gubernare – to con-trol – mente – the mind. The Courts rule over the people through use of extreme violence and force. The absence of respect for the Rule of Law was the greatest shock to the Research Team. We must learn to act with integrity ourselves. The first act is to hold those agents posing as “Public Officials” accountable. How?

1. 45 Court Observers filed in SF-95 Criminal complaints to document the procedural and due- process violations in the DC Court Case. How does one hold them accountable when the people who review the complaints get paid their salaries from the same pool as the Court? Some complaints will be heard, some have already been denied, one has been set for a hearing. It is a convoluted process not for the faint of heart, but a valid process that goes after their insurance bonds.

2. Our Research Teams have started a massive educational campaign to fully expose the Criminal Nature of the System of Corporations posing as Governments who hold our courts hostage.

a. Posting THE SOURCE DOCUMENTS that Rod Class references in his court filings and in his teaching. Coming soon: www.naturaljusticeacademy.org

b. Other researchers who have documented the Financial Corruption have joined the effort. Their research is now being posted.

c. Judicial corruption is so widespread that the Judges believe they are above the Rule of Law. They are not held accountable because there is nobody with the power to challenge them. See Dr. Richard Cordero’s Report on Judicial Corruption. www.itnjcommitte.org It, too, will be posted on NJA.

3. The International Tribunal for Natural Justice is an outgrowth of the Court Watcher Pro- ject. Researchers, Judicial Reform advocates, those abused by the system, and others came together to look for solutions. The same abuse is being docu- mented throughout the world.

4. The ITNJ is international in scope. The foundation has been laid to open an office in the USA, one in London, UK, one in Australia and Norfolk Island, and one in South Africa.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET THIS WORLD TRIBUNAL FULLY OPERATIONAL?
It will take the people getting behind this effort. We need your support in numerous ways.

1. SEND US YOUR CASES. The procedures posted on the ITNJ site will tell you how to post a case for review. Or, contact info@itnj.org to submit a case.

2. Sign the ITNJ Treaty. The more who sign, the more clout we have to be a force for good within the International Community.

3. BE ONE OF THE FIRST DONORS TO FUND THIS OPERATION! 5,000 people pledg- ing $25.00 a month for one year will put this initia- tive on the map. 10,000 people pledging $25.00 a month will give us the working capital to seat a full office in the USA, in London, UK, in Australia and Norfolk Island, and open a branch in South Africa. Visit the Committee to Support the ITNJ for more information. Be listed as a Founding Donor on the ITNJ website!

4. Your immediate donation will allow us to hold the Inaugural Ceremony simultaneously in the United States and in London, UK, on June 15, 2015, the day the Magna Carta was signed 800 years ago at Runnymede.

5. VOLUNTEER! The volunteers have put in many, many hours to get this project so that the foundational structures are in place to move forward with all due speed. To volunteer send an email to contact@itnj.org .

6. Become educated in the workings of the Law.

When we turned our courts over to the BAR Asso- ciation, we lost many generations of civic-minded individuals who knew the law and who could act as a safeguard to protect our liberty. unshackledOur researchers have proven that knowing the law is the first step. It is not that difficult to learn Natural Law, and to return oversight of government to the sovereign people.

Most of all, we need monthly donors willing to fund the International Tribunal for Natural Jus- tice. We have the foundation in place. We have the documents and the explanations by numerous researchers to prove the mind-games that have been deliberately perpetrated against the people of the world.

NON-ACTION IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.

Now that we know, we have no choice but to find peaceful ways to hold each agent acting for any Corporation accountable to the Rule of Law. Our team has been tireless in our diligence to make the International Tribunal for Natural Justice a force for good. The next step is up to you. We invite your voluntary participation, your prayers, and your donations.

To find out how to get involved and become a founding advocate check out the committee to support the ITNJ: http://itnjcommittee.org

Further, learn about the ITNJ court proceeding by visiting the tribunal’s site:

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The population of America was “captured” in 1933, converted to Enemies of the State by the Amendatory Act of 1933 (Trading with the Enemy/War Powers Act),

"A majority of the people of the United States (all people today) have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years [now 86 years], freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have - from, at least, the Civil War - in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency."



https://archive.org/details/senate-report-93-549


A perpetual state of national emergency which allows the government to do that which would be illegal for it to do absent an emergency.


Yep, everything seems to be working just as the Constitution says.
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Also, if a People had lived their entire lives under rules and regs that were only possible during emergency rule, would they even realize it, or just come to see it all as normal and legal?
 

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Well Anna makes some salient points: The armed conflict we call the Civil War, was never declared as a war by the congress.
Out govt created the Federal govt and is not a party to it's actions. It is still subservient in terms of law, if not in terms of raw power.
The fact is they deceived a sleeping public, not aware of their malfeasance.

This is my paraphrasing of what she has said. In other word she says it much better than I do.
 
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I have not seen anything about the Act of 1871 in Anna's writing on this topic.

BIGJON,

YOUR COMMENT: I have not seen anything about the Act of 1871 in Anna's writing on this topic.

MY RESPONSE: The word "MUNICIPAL" means "CITY". The Act of 1871 merely created a "MUNICIPAL" ("CITY") government for Washington, D.C. (not for the entire government of The United States Of America, which was ALREADY CREATED by then). Read the title and the text of the act at the bottom of page ONE here. http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/41st-congress/session-3/c41s3ch62.pdf.

You claim that in her article Anna did not mention the Act of 1871 by name. But, NO OTHER ACT created a "MUNICIPAL" government for Washington, D.C.

The Act of 1871 WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID THIS.

Now, let's take a look at what Anna actually wrote below given that the definition of "MUNICIPAL" government means a "CITY" government (rather than the entire federal government of The United States of America).

(ANNA'S QUOTE BEGINS)

The MUNICIPAL Government

The MUNICIPAL United States Government was created by the original Constitutional Agreements, and specifically by The Constitution of the United States adopted in 1790.

The current updated version of The Constitution of the United States was commonly available in bookstores as recently as 2012, when I picked up a copy at Barnes and Noble. It is a simplified, stripped-down version of the original written in modern English with several key restrictions and limitations removed, apparently without notice to or consent of the People presumed to be upholding the other end of the agreement.

I can tell you that reading it was quite a shock to my sensibilities after a lifetime of dealing with the difficulties of reading 18th century legal documents. I can also tell you that like so many other books, documents, court cases, and quotations that have been altered or buried or burned to serve political agendas during the past one hundred and fifty years, when I went back to buy a few more copies, it had disappeared. Out of print.

The physical location of the MUNICIPAL United States Government IS LIMITED TO THE TEN MILES SQUARE OF WASHINGTON, D.C. enclosed within the Boundary Stones of that "independent, international CITY-state" chartered by the Roman Curia and originally administered by the Holy See from 1790 to 1933, whereupon its administration was unlawfully converted and taken over by the Roman Pontificate--- the pagan Holy Roman Empire promoting itself as the "Secular Church".

Apparently this profane religion adores oxymoron expressions and purposefully proliferates such nonsense in order to further promote confusion and illogical thinking. Maybe also as an intelligence test?

This pagan MUNICIPAL United States Government has been operating under Roman Civil Law on our shores and its rulers are plenary oligarchs -- the members of "the" United States Congress, as stipulated at Article I, Section 8, Clause 17.

The clear intention of the Founding Fathers was to establish a capital CITY where everyone could meet in pleasant and secure circumstance, and on even terms. The members of Congress were entrusted to form a CITY government and keep it in good order for the intended purposes.

That same government (REFERRING TO THE "CITY" GOVERNMENT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. ) has, since 1945, acted to grossly defraud and dis-serve the American States and People and has usurped upon their lawful government [MEANING THAT THE "CITY" GOVERNMENT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. HAS BECOME THE NEW UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT] for 150 years, acting in perennial Breach of Trust, and since 1934, with increasing boldness and disregard of any law.

They prefer to practice "the Rule of Law" which is no actual Law at all, but merely a proliferation of Court Rules and Procedures designed to enable them to obtain whatever end result their minions desire simply by interpreting certain words in different ways and claiming "judicial discretion".

This same foreign MUNICIPAL government has established MUNICIPAL Districts and MUNICIPAL Courts and MUNICIPAL STATES OF STATES in every State of the Union, expanded its administration with over 350 new "Agencies" and allowed those agencies to operate under color of law on our shores.

Via the use of "Federal Block Grants" used as bribes with undisclosed consequences---basically kickbacks from racketeering--- the MUNICIPAL Government has expanded to over 185,000 MUNICIPALITIES and MUNICIPAL corporations in this country. And none of them have any right to be here.

The intent of the Founders and Signers of the original Constitutions to provide a congenial meeting place on the banks of the Potomac and their equally simple entrusting of this duty and oversight of the capitol CITY government to later members of Congress, has been grotesquely expanded and trampled, and stands against the Constitutions, including The Constitution of the United States. As such, their actions and presumptions are null and void.

It is a peculiarity of the Roman Civil Law that the MUNICIPAL Government adopted, that you can lie, cheat, steal, and defraud to your hearts delight, so long as you don't get caught. However, once fraud is discovered, everything tainted by it must be disallowed and wiped clean: fraud vitiates everything.

The Great Fraud was discovered by loyal Americans in 1980 and initial action was taken to oppose and expose it.

The MUNICIPAL United States Government has been operating against the requirements of the Roman Civil Law ever since, and has continued to defraud Americans and racketeer against them in criminal violation of their Constitutional obligations.

In 2004 these same Americans reported an uptick in MUNICIPAL Agency activity aimed at militarization of MUNICIPAL Police, importation of foreign military personnel, vast inexplicable building projects staged in Free Trade Zones and the development of FEMA relocation camps, apparently using the same plan as Hitler's Concentration Camps.

We accordingly took our objections to the Holy See in Rome, which is also the seat of government for the Roman Pontificate. We pointed out that our agreements are with the Holy See, not the Roman Pontificate.

We expressed our concerns and objected to the mistreatment, fraud, and mis-characterization of Americans as "citizens of the United States", the threatening actions undertaken by the MUNICIPAL United States Government in violation of their Constitutional obligations, and much more.

For the next seven years, we served Notice and Due Process upon MUNICIPAL Employees at all levels of the MUNICIPAL United States Government, including members of the MUNICIPAL United States Congress. In 2011, the Holy See closed the Roman Pontificate and moved to liquidate the underlying trusts. In 2014, we finished the Notice and Due Process, and issued our findings as a Final Civil Order Judgment.

We also issued General Civil Orders to the Joint Chiefs in July of 2014, alerting them to the looming danger posed by militarization of the MUNICIPAL police and Agency Personnel, construction of concentration camps on our soil, purchase of billions of rounds of ammunition and other vast armament supplies including 30,000 guillotines by the MUNICIPAL United States Government, the presence of foreign -- especially Chinese factory workers in large numbers in Free Trade Zones located at critical communication and transportation hubs, and the sale of military equipment and natural resources such as Uranium to both the Russians and Chinese Governments by members of the MUNICIPAL Government.

In this way, their cover was blown and no plausible deniability remained for the Joint Chiefs, either.

With the selection of Pope Francis and the retirement of Pope Benedict XVI, progress ground to a halt. Nothing truly effective has been done to shut down the operations of the rogue MUNICIPAL United States Government, which owes its charter to the Roman Curia. Their operations were liquidated on paper, but they were allowed to form a new series of corporations, and sail right on. The Great Fraud allowed by the Roman Pontificate and its minions in Washington, DC, has not been exposed to the people of this country, much less to the world, and the criminality underlying it has not been brought under control, much less to a stop.

Instead, we have reports of MUNICIPAL franchise corporations and MUNICIPAL agency personnel --which have been heavily supplied with military grade armaments via the process already described-- getting "ready for action" against innocent American civilians.

The lawful government of this country, The United States of America, has done and is doing everything that it can do to protect the people and to recoup the purloined assets of this country. We have called out the Holy See and we hold the Roman Catholic Church and the Roman Curia absolutely responsible for this Gross Breach of Trust and commercial contract; we also hold the British Monarch responsible for these crimes against us.

Let it be set before the whole world and particularly the members of the United Nations Organization, that the Roman Curia controls all INCORPORQATED governments via the issuance of charters, so that action by the United Nations is ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.

Let it be seen that the Roman Curia also holds the charter and is responsible for the MUNICIPAL of Washington, DC, and that any action undertaken by the MUNICIPAL United States Government is also ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.

Finally, let it be seen that the Pope also indirectly controls the British Territorial United States, which is a Commonwealth overseen by the British Monarch in behalf of the Pope.

All roads lead to Rome, and any "civil war" engaged in on our soil in violation of our Public Law and our Land Law and our international treaties and our solemn trust indentures and the service contracts owed to us, is fronted by the Pope on both sides of the issue.

Whereupon we bring forward our condemnation of the Pope and the Roman Curia for promoting and allowing this situation to exist and for pretending that they are not fully responsible for it and accountable to our lawful Government for this circumstance.

The Pope cannot fight against himself, and he cannot order his minion, the Queen, to fight against him, either, and have any plausible excuse for the disruption, bloodshed, and misery this one man is proposing to cause by fomenting a phony civil war on the soil of a foreign nation -- ours.

We ask all treaty and alliance members for their urgent assistance to prevent any such travesty, and ask them to begin Counterpoint Operations to make sure that the Pope and the Queen both receive our message via taking up stations.

The same Roman Pontificate which has used the Catholic Church as a storefront for its venal operations is proposing to use the United Nations in the same way --- as a storefront to hide its own unsavory activities and get innocent people to pay for their own destruction.

As long as the governments of the various countries continue to operate as INCORPORATED franchises under charter and patent of the Roman Curia, this is a foregone conclusion, and so is the predatory criminality with which the Holy Roman Empire has fostered and formed the threat of global CORPORATE Feudalism.

So now you know what we are up against and who is behind it, no matter how they twist and turn it. This is just another instance of "Holy Roman Empire" war-mongering for profit, another instance where these pirates in clerical costume and nice suits propose to kill off their Primary Creditors rather than return our purloined assets to us--- and offer to use our own assets and our own deluded countrymen to do their dirty work, too.

Let every American wake up and smell the java. Let every officer of every MUNICIPAL Agency lay down his gun or never pick it up. Let every official of the MUNICIPAL United States Government hang their heads in shame.

In the same way that they have waged a secretive and unholy war by guile and deceit upon the American States and People, they have promoted the same aims of "quiet conquest" against the whole world and every national government, and they now propose to ignore even their own Roman Civil Law.

Many members of the United States Military and the Federal Civil Service have been led astray by promises of great wealth and reward for themselves.

The bankers have led them on and they have sold their honor for nothing.

And this, to date, is the status of the MUNICIPAL United States Government.

(QUOTE ENDS)

I.Q. TEST:

If in writing the article above, Anna was not referring to the Act of 1871 (which created the MUNICIPAL / CITY government for Washington, D.C. which she claims is now the "MUNICIPAL United States Government") then what in hell was she referring to when using the term "MUNICIPAL government" in her article?

If the Act of 1871 (which created a MUNICIPAL / CITY government for Washington, D.C.) had not been passed, would it be possible for our federal government to be the "MUNICIPAL United States Government", as Anna claims?

If not, then Anna's entire article is a reference to the Act of 1871 which you contend Anna never referred to.

Think about it.
 

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BIGJON,

YOUR COMMENT: I have not seen anything about the Act of 1871 in Anna's writing on this topic.

MY RESPONSE: The word "MUNICIPAL" means "CITY". The Act of 1871 merely created a "MUNICIPAL" ("CITY") government for Washington, D.C. (not for the entire government of The United States Of America, which was ALREADY CREATED by then). Read the title and the text of the act at the bottom of page ONE here. http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/41st-congress/session-3/c41s3ch62.pdf.

You claim that in her article Anna did not mention the Act of 1871 by name. But, NO OTHER ACT created a "MUNICIPAL" government for Washington, D.C.

The Act of 1871 WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID THIS.

Now, let's take a look at what Anna actually wrote below given that the definition of "MUNICIPAL" government means a "CITY" government (rather than the entire federal government of The United States of America).

(ANNA'S QUOTE BEGINS)

The MUNICIPAL Government

The MUNICIPAL United States Government was created by the original Constitutional Agreements, and specifically by The Constitution of the United States adopted in 1790.

The current updated version of The Constitution of the United States was commonly available in bookstores as recently as 2012, when I picked up a copy at Barnes and Noble. It is a simplified, stripped-down version of the original written in modern English with several key restrictions and limitations removed, apparently without notice to or consent of the People presumed to be upholding the other end of the agreement.

I can tell you that reading it was quite a shock to my sensibilities after a lifetime of dealing with the difficulties of reading 18th century legal documents. I can also tell you that like so many other books, documents, court cases, and quotations that have been altered or buried or burned to serve political agendas during the past one hundred and fifty years, when I went back to buy a few more copies, it had disappeared. Out of print.

The physical location of the MUNICIPAL United States Government IS LIMITED TO THE TEN MILES SQUARE OF WASHINGTON, D.C. enclosed within the Boundary Stones of that "independent, international CITY-state" chartered by the Roman Curia and originally administered by the Holy See from 1790 to 1933, whereupon its administration was unlawfully converted and taken over by the Roman Pontificate--- the pagan Holy Roman Empire promoting itself as the "Secular Church".

Apparently this profane religion adores oxymoron expressions and purposefully proliferates such nonsense in order to further promote confusion and illogical thinking. Maybe also as an intelligence test?

This pagan MUNICIPAL United States Government has been operating under Roman Civil Law on our shores and its rulers are plenary oligarchs -- the members of "the" United States Congress, as stipulated at Article I, Section 8, Clause 17.

The clear intention of the Founding Fathers was to establish a capital CITY where everyone could meet in pleasant and secure circumstance, and on even terms. The members of Congress were entrusted to form a CITY government and keep it in good order for the intended purposes.

That same government (REFERRING TO THE "CITY" GOVERNMENT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. ) has, since 1945, acted to grossly defraud and dis-serve the American States and People and has usurped upon their lawful government [MEANING THAT THE "CITY" GOVERNMENT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. HAS BECOME THE NEW UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT] for 150 years, acting in perennial Breach of Trust, and since 1934, with increasing boldness and disregard of any law.

They prefer to practice "the Rule of Law" which is no actual Law at all, but merely a proliferation of Court Rules and Procedures designed to enable them to obtain whatever end result their minions desire simply by interpreting certain words in different ways and claiming "judicial discretion".

This same foreign MUNICIPAL government has established MUNICIPAL Districts and MUNICIPAL Courts and MUNICIPAL STATES OF STATES in every State of the Union, expanded its administration with over 350 new "Agencies" and allowed those agencies to operate under color of law on our shores.

Via the use of "Federal Block Grants" used as bribes with undisclosed consequences---basically kickbacks from racketeering--- the MUNICIPAL Government has expanded to over 185,000 MUNICIPALITIES and MUNICIPAL corporations in this country. And none of them have any right to be here.

The intent of the Founders and Signers of the original Constitutions to provide a congenial meeting place on the banks of the Potomac and their equally simple entrusting of this duty and oversight of the capitol CITY government to later members of Congress, has been grotesquely expanded and trampled, and stands against the Constitutions, including The Constitution of the United States. As such, their actions and presumptions are null and void.

It is a peculiarity of the Roman Civil Law that the MUNICIPAL Government adopted, that you can lie, cheat, steal, and defraud to your hearts delight, so long as you don't get caught. However, once fraud is discovered, everything tainted by it must be disallowed and wiped clean: fraud vitiates everything.

The Great Fraud was discovered by loyal Americans in 1980 and initial action was taken to oppose and expose it.

The MUNICIPAL United States Government has been operating against the requirements of the Roman Civil Law ever since, and has continued to defraud Americans and racketeer against them in criminal violation of their Constitutional obligations.

In 2004 these same Americans reported an uptick in MUNICIPAL Agency activity aimed at militarization of MUNICIPAL Police, importation of foreign military personnel, vast inexplicable building projects staged in Free Trade Zones and the development of FEMA relocation camps, apparently using the same plan as Hitler's Concentration Camps.

We accordingly took our objections to the Holy See in Rome, which is also the seat of government for the Roman Pontificate. We pointed out that our agreements are with the Holy See, not the Roman Pontificate.

We expressed our concerns and objected to the mistreatment, fraud, and mis-characterization of Americans as "citizens of the United States", the threatening actions undertaken by the MUNICIPAL United States Government in violation of their Constitutional obligations, and much more.

For the next seven years, we served Notice and Due Process upon MUNICIPAL Employees at all levels of the MUNICIPAL United States Government, including members of the MUNICIPAL United States Congress. In 2011, the Holy See closed the Roman Pontificate and moved to liquidate the underlying trusts. In 2014, we finished the Notice and Due Process, and issued our findings as a Final Civil Order Judgment.

We also issued General Civil Orders to the Joint Chiefs in July of 2014, alerting them to the looming danger posed by militarization of the MUNICIPAL police and Agency Personnel, construction of concentration camps on our soil, purchase of billions of rounds of ammunition and other vast armament supplies including 30,000 guillotines by the MUNICIPAL United States Government, the presence of foreign -- especially Chinese factory workers in large numbers in Free Trade Zones located at critical communication and transportation hubs, and the sale of military equipment and natural resources such as Uranium to both the Russians and Chinese Governments by members of the MUNICIPAL Government.

In this way, their cover was blown and no plausible deniability remained for the Joint Chiefs, either.

With the selection of Pope Francis and the retirement of Pope Benedict XVI, progress ground to a halt. Nothing truly effective has been done to shut down the operations of the rogue MUNICIPAL United States Government, which owes its charter to the Roman Curia. Their operations were liquidated on paper, but they were allowed to form a new series of corporations, and sail right on. The Great Fraud allowed by the Roman Pontificate and its minions in Washington, DC, has not been exposed to the people of this country, much less to the world, and the criminality underlying it has not been brought under control, much less to a stop.

Instead, we have reports of MUNICIPAL franchise corporations and MUNICIPAL agency personnel --which have been heavily supplied with military grade armaments via the process already described-- getting "ready for action" against innocent American civilians.

The lawful government of this country, The United States of America, has done and is doing everything that it can do to protect the people and to recoup the purloined assets of this country. We have called out the Holy See and we hold the Roman Catholic Church and the Roman Curia absolutely responsible for this Gross Breach of Trust and commercial contract; we also hold the British Monarch responsible for these crimes against us.

Let it be set before the whole world and particularly the members of the United Nations Organization, that the Roman Curia controls all INCORPORQATED governments via the issuance of charters, so that action by the United Nations is ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.

Let it be seen that the Roman Curia also holds the charter and is responsible for the MUNICIPAL of Washington, DC, and that any action undertaken by the MUNICIPAL United States Government is also ultimately action undertaken by the Pope.

Finally, let it be seen that the Pope also indirectly controls the British Territorial United States, which is a Commonwealth overseen by the British Monarch in behalf of the Pope.

All roads lead to Rome, and any "civil war" engaged in on our soil in violation of our Public Law and our Land Law and our international treaties and our solemn trust indentures and the service contracts owed to us, is fronted by the Pope on both sides of the issue.

Whereupon we bring forward our condemnation of the Pope and the Roman Curia for promoting and allowing this situation to exist and for pretending that they are not fully responsible for it and accountable to our lawful Government for this circumstance.

The Pope cannot fight against himself, and he cannot order his minion, the Queen, to fight against him, either, and have any plausible excuse for the disruption, bloodshed, and misery this one man is proposing to cause by fomenting a phony civil war on the soil of a foreign nation -- ours.

We ask all treaty and alliance members for their urgent assistance to prevent any such travesty, and ask them to begin Counterpoint Operations to make sure that the Pope and the Queen both receive our message via taking up stations.

The same Roman Pontificate which has used the Catholic Church as a storefront for its venal operations is proposing to use the United Nations in the same way --- as a storefront to hide its own unsavory activities and get innocent people to pay for their own destruction.

As long as the governments of the various countries continue to operate as INCORPORATED franchises under charter and patent of the Roman Curia, this is a foregone conclusion, and so is the predatory criminality with which the Holy Roman Empire has fostered and formed the threat of global CORPORATE Feudalism.

So now you know what we are up against and who is behind it, no matter how they twist and turn it. This is just another instance of "Holy Roman Empire" war-mongering for profit, another instance where these pirates in clerical costume and nice suits propose to kill off their Primary Creditors rather than return our purloined assets to us--- and offer to use our own assets and our own deluded countrymen to do their dirty work, too.

Let every American wake up and smell the java. Let every officer of every MUNICIPAL Agency lay down his gun or never pick it up. Let every official of the MUNICIPAL United States Government hang their heads in shame.

In the same way that they have waged a secretive and unholy war by guile and deceit upon the American States and People, they have promoted the same aims of "quiet conquest" against the whole world and every national government, and they now propose to ignore even their own Roman Civil Law.

Many members of the United States Military and the Federal Civil Service have been led astray by promises of great wealth and reward for themselves.

The bankers have led them on and they have sold their honor for nothing.

And this, to date, is the status of the MUNICIPAL United States Government.

(QUOTE ENDS)

I.Q. TEST:

If in writing the article above, Anna was not referring to the Act of 1871 (which created the MUNICIPAL / CITY government for Washington, D.C. which she claims is now the "MUNICIPAL United States Government") then what in hell was she referring to when using the term "MUNICIPAL government" in her article?

If the Act of 1871 (which created a MUNICIPAL / CITY government for Washington, D.C.) had not been passed, would it be possible for our federal government to be the "MUNICIPAL United States Government", as Anna claims?

If not, then Anna's entire article is a reference to the Act of 1871 which you contend Anna never referred to.

Think about it.
Same question for you, think about it.

OK, then. Number one. I am just some guy who reposts Anna's stuff. I'm not trained in law and I'm not qualified to write anything for or about what Anna says.
What I see when I read Anna's messages is all the stuff I learned about the way "our" govt is supposed to work.

But it doesn't. And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?

Everything I see is that all that surrounds us is one real big conspiracy. From religion to banks to govt are one big conspiracy.

You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME?
 
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An anonymous benefactor left this little mssg in my inbox:

NOW THAT WE KNOW THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?

Over 2,000 researchers observed the Rod Class Washington, DC Gun Case determined to answer this question:

What Foundational Law underpins the current Judicial System in the United States?

The case was heard in the UNITED STATES DIS-TRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF CO-LUMBIA. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was the Plaintiff. RODNEY CLASS was the Defendant. Case Number Criminal Action CR 13 – 253 (with Judges Initials added later to designate a superseded case number.)

The first question the scholars wanted to know is how UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could bring a criminal charge against a civilian. There is no Constitutional mandate of any kind to allow any Court to charge a civilian with a criminal offense. Who is the injured party? A criminal charge, ac-cording to the rules, has to be heard before a “Jury of his peers” and only when someone has been injured.

Why was Class charged on a DC city gun ordi-nance that had been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court? Was the City of Washington, DC, and their courts, not under the supervision of the Supreme Court?

By what authority did UNITED STATES OF AMERICA presume any jurisdiction over a civil-ian? Further, WHICH ENTITY was bringing the charge?

Most people miss the significance of this study. Let me explain: Rod Class is best known for his North Carolina Ruling in 2010-2011 that got two Judges to admit on the public record that the Agents working for the STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA were NOT Public Officials but were in fact, private entities, Corporations. The ruling went so far as to state that ‘the elected Governor was not under the Executive Branch’ and therefore not classified as a Public Official answerable to the people of the State.

We now had it on the Public Record: The Judges, Court Officers, Law Enforcement, City Municipali-ties, DMV, STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, even the Governor’s office, were NOT part of the Execu-tive, Legislative, nor Judicial Branch of Government under the Constitution. They were Administrative Agents under the jurisdiction of a foreign power. Our “government” was not what we believed it to be.

The question was germane: Who is UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? Who pays the salary of the Court Officials? How does a private, for-profit Corporation presume to have jurisdiction over a peaceful inhabitant, a civilian? If you visited the parking lot of Walmart, and you weren’t an employ- ee of Walmart, you would look at the security guard with disbelief if he arrested you for not following one of the rules and regulations of Walmart. Only the employees of the Corporation are subject to their rules and regulations.

The NC ruling caused the 2,000 Researchers to put a laser focus on the Rod Class DC Gun Case.
The researchers were legal and law scholars. They knew the rules and regulations under which the Judiciary are mandated to act, according to the Constitution, according to American Jurispru-dence, and according to the Fiduciary duties of the Judiciary as defined by their Job Description in various legislative acts, congressional records, and under Statutory Law. Many of the scholars were well-versed in Contract Law, UCC Law, Trust and Equity Law, Common Law, Natural Law, even Ecclesiastical and Canon Law. Most had a working understanding of the Rules of Probate. Many were well-versed in the Laws of War, the Leiber Code, the War Powers Act, and more. Most understood the difference between Admiralty Law, Roman Civil Law, Jurisprudence, and Common Law.

None of the researchers were lawyers. They were not under Oath to the British Accreditation Regis- try. (BAR Association) They were impartial observ-er’s intent on understanding what form of law was in operation in the DC Court room, whether or not the Court Officers followed their own Rules, and what Jurisdiction and Venue they claimed as their authority over a civilian population.

There were some major surprises. The conclu-sions were devastating to the American people. It explains why the prison population of America has exploded. It explains why there is no remedy and no relief, and why pro-se litigants only win 3% of the time. It explains the explosion in foreclosure cases where many have lost their homes while the banks and their cronies create millions off of the paperwork; why Child Support Enforcement often ends in Debtor’s Prison; why a simple traffic viola- tion can land people in prison, result in exorbitant fines, support a rather large outgrowth of “sup- ported services” like probation officers, for-profit prisons, ankle bracelets, DUI schools, and more.

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE CASE
RodClass1

Rod Class is a teacher who can quote Statutory Law, Constitutional Law, Military Law, Common Law and more, with precise definitions and full un-derstanding of any paperwork a Prosecutor might write. Class was arrested in May, 2013, on a routine visit to the capitol to visit what he thought of as his Congressional Representative. He parked in his usual spot. When he returned to his Jeep, it was surrounded by numerous law enforcement person- nel.

Rod Class has a Concealed Carry permit from the State of North Carolina. He has a Congressional appointment as a Private Attorney General, and is a designated Constitutional Bounty Hunter whose main duty is to hold Public Officials accountable. He had no weapon of any kind with him. They were in a gun locker in his jeep. He did NOT have any “firearms” as defined by Statute. Yet he was charged with two violations of “possession of a firearm” by the Capitol Hill Police. The charge was serious, carrying a 10-year prison sentence and a possible fine of $250,000.

The bizarre case that unfolded is typical of current- day courtroom behavior in the USA. Except for one thing: a trained group of observers could document exactly how and in what manner the various Court Officers violated the rules of conduct that laid out their duties and responsibilities, and the Rules of the Court. Class filed the evidence of their errors into the Court record. The Judge found ways to deny the filing, even though this is a viola- tion of due process and makes any court official who has participated in such attempts at evidence suppression guilty of numerous crimes.

The most significant point is that Rod Class acted as his own counsel, but as a Third Party Interve-nor. Class, the Civilian, represented the GOV-ERNMENT COPYRIGHT TRADEMARK NAME RODNEY DALE CLASS. Some people refer to this entity as “The Strawman.” It is the corporate fiction created by the birth event recorded by the Depart ment of Health/Vital Statistics by the Constitutional “government” Corporation and then transferred to the Administrative Agents who supervise the Bank-ruptcy under the Emergency Banking Act of 1933 for the Banking Cartel.

The SOURCE DOCUMENTS that Class introduced as evidence into his case show how the people of America have been under siege as an occupied na-tion since 1933. The complete takeover by a foreign power occurred without the people’s knowledge. HOW the birth registration creates the methods used by the various Administrative Agencies to “harvest the resources” of the “human capital” un-der their management is at issue in this case. How the Administrative Agents have embezzled those funds, stolen them from both the American people, and the “government” by failure to pay off the Public Debt, is also at issue.

This detailed study was carried out over a two-year period.

I was one of those researchers ….here’s what we learned:

1. When Judge Kessler warned Rod Class he had to know their rules and their laws in order to represent himself in her courtroom, Rod chal- lenged her to reveal what law was in operation in the courtroom. He filed the Constitution, the com- plete annotated book of Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and the local rules of the court into the case record. He also brought up American Juris- prudence. This was in July, 2014.

2. Judge Kessler was removed from the case, the second Judge to fall under the relentless on- slaught of Class’s efforts to hold them accountable to their own rules. Two prosecutors had already left the case.

3. The buck stopped with the arrival of Chief Judge Roberts. So did any semblance that any Rule of Law would be followed in the DC Gun Case. Stunned observers were left with one irrefutable conclusion:

a. Chief Judge Roberts was presiding over a War Crimes Tribunal. USC 50- War and National Defense – Chapter 3, Section 23 carries the only judicial reference that would allow a Judge to prosecute such a frivolous charge as a serious criminal felony.

b. The ONLY EXPLANATION for the case could be found under the Laws of War: Rod Class was being charged for a BREACH OF THE PEACE DURING A TIME OF WAR.

c. How could a civilian be picked up on charges and treated as if he was a prisoner of war? Vietnam came to mind.

d. It slowly dawned on the observers: War on Drugs, War on Drunk Driving, War on “Deadbeat Dads,” War on Terror: Endless War! Finally, the form of Law was starkly revealed: ALL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, ALL HOME FORE CLOSURE CASES, ALL CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT CHARGES, ANY CIVIL CASE THAT CARRIES A CRIMINAL PENALTY falls under the Laws of War.

e. The Constitution had been suspended during the Civil War, a new Constitution similar in name had been substituted by the Corporations posing as Governments, and the American people had never been told.

f. The population of America was “captured” in 1933, converted to Enemies of the State by the Amendatory Act of 1933 (Trading with the Enemy/War Powers Act), all their property had been “conscripted for the War Effort” (War Powers Act of 1917) and they were no longer treated as civilians of an occupied territory. They were “enemies of the State”, duly conquered by the Bankster Corporations posing as governments. They were reduced to slaves and war criminals.

g. The SOURCE DOCUMENTS put all this into perspective as the case unfolded. HOW the American people have been pirated and plundered by the Courts and put in jail so that for-profit prisons can proliferate was more than the Researchers could handle at times.

h. Under the War Powers Act, during a National Emergency, anyone deemed a “war criminal” was subject-to the Jurisdiction of a Martial Military Procedure with no rights nor remedies available to any one so charged. It appears that any one who claims to be a “US CITIZEN” as the court defines that term is a WAR CRIMINAL subject to their jurisdiction.

i. The substituted constitution spells it out that an enemy charged as a war criminal can be treated as a slave with no consequences to the one levying the charge.

4. The observers were horrified as this mild- mannered Southern Gentleman was literally kid- napped from the VA hospital, shackled, and thrown in jail for 21 days for a “contempt of court” charge that could not then be explained.

5. The observers were surprised that Karen Hudes appeared at the Court hearing, and visited Rod Class in jail. He was told by Hudes that ‘the people could not expect the criminal justice system to reform 100%. They would be lucky if it reached a 70% level of fairness.’ In other words, Class stand- ing up to “The System” would result in more har- assment for him and his followers.

6. It was later learned that the arrest warrant came from a new case. All the paperwork from the original case had been sealed, his filings kept off
of Pacer, and a new case by the same number, but adding the initials of the Judge, “superseded” the original case. The arrest warrant had proceeded from a secret Grand Jury hearing that Class was not informed about, and a new charge “superseded.”

a. Hint: 2000 observers downloading both sides of all the paperwork now know the truth – with such devastating evidence of prosecutors tampering with definitions, tampering with the Grand Jury, and Judges nullifying the right to Trial By Jury. Not to mention proof that Class was being treated as a WAR CRIMINAL.

7. When he reappeared before the Judge, Class noticed the new case number, clarified that a change had been made, but was forced to accept a “plea agreement” if he was to ever get out of jail.

8. The observers watched an out-of-control system use force, fear and fraud as their only “authority.”

9. An appeal has been filed, following this method: Keep it simple; Go after the lowest com- mon denominator first. This filing could literally bring down the BAR Association’s hold over the American Legal System. Perhaps that is why it has not yet appeared on Pacer, even though it has been received.

For details, www.talkshoe.com/AIBRadio; Conclusion: It was a very sobering process to watch court officers who did not even attempt to follow the Rule of Law. Instead, the Judges and Prosecutors acted like war profiteers drunk on their own power. They were. The War Powers Act of 1917, as amended by the Banking Emergency Act of 1933, had put the Federal Reserve and their sub- sidiaries, the Bank of International Settlements and the IMF, in charge of all “government services.”

The people themselves have never been told the truth. The courts knew. The BAR Association knew. Those at the head of the municipalities and States knew. They failed to inform the people that, as “Enemy of the State,” the rules had changed. The Judges, Prosecutors and Public Defender took ad- vantage of the game. They felt entitled to the “spoils of war.” The people were fair game. Any agent posing as a public official who has taken advantage of the civilian population is guilty of crimes against humanity. Nothing excuses the deceptive acts and practices carried out in broad daylight upon an unsuspecting population.

NOW THAT WE KNOW THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?
ontwikkelenExposing the methods used by the Courts to claim authority over the people is the first step. These agents have no more authority than a Security Guard at Wal-Mart. When the people fully under- stand the mind game that has been played upon them, they will be so shocked that they will do whatever it takes to create a truly fair and equitable justice system. That system does not currently exist within the Courts run by these Corporations pos- ing as governments. Instead, government has been reduced to it’s latin roots: Gubernare – to con-trol – mente – the mind. The Courts rule over the people through use of extreme violence and force. The absence of respect for the Rule of Law was the greatest shock to the Research Team. We must learn to act with integrity ourselves. The first act is to hold those agents posing as “Public Officials” accountable. How?

1. 45 Court Observers filed in SF-95 Criminal complaints to document the procedural and due- process violations in the DC Court Case. How does one hold them accountable when the people who review the complaints get paid their salaries from the same pool as the Court? Some complaints will be heard, some have already been denied, one has been set for a hearing. It is a convoluted process not for the faint of heart, but a valid process that goes after their insurance bonds.

2. Our Research Teams have started a massive educational campaign to fully expose the Criminal Nature of the System of Corporations posing as Governments who hold our courts hostage.

a. Posting THE SOURCE DOCUMENTS that Rod Class references in his court filings and in his teaching. Coming soon: www.naturaljusticeacademy.org

b. Other researchers who have documented the Financial Corruption have joined the effort. Their research is now being posted.

c. Judicial corruption is so widespread that the Judges believe they are above the Rule of Law. They are not held accountable because there is nobody with the power to challenge them. See Dr. Richard Cordero’s Report on Judicial Corruption. www.itnjcommitte.org It, too, will be posted on NJA.

3. The International Tribunal for Natural Justice is an outgrowth of the Court Watcher Pro- ject. Researchers, Judicial Reform advocates, those abused by the system, and others came together to look for solutions. The same abuse is being docu- mented throughout the world.

4. The ITNJ is international in scope. The foundation has been laid to open an office in the USA, one in London, UK, one in Australia and Norfolk Island, and one in South Africa.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET THIS WORLD TRIBUNAL FULLY OPERATIONAL?
It will take the people getting behind this effort. We need your support in numerous ways.

1. SEND US YOUR CASES. The procedures posted on the ITNJ site will tell you how to post a case for review. Or, contact info@itnj.org to submit a case.

2. Sign the ITNJ Treaty. The more who sign, the more clout we have to be a force for good within the International Community.

3. BE ONE OF THE FIRST DONORS TO FUND THIS OPERATION! 5,000 people pledg- ing $25.00 a month for one year will put this initia- tive on the map. 10,000 people pledging $25.00 a month will give us the working capital to seat a full office in the USA, in London, UK, in Australia and Norfolk Island, and open a branch in South Africa. Visit the Committee to Support the ITNJ for more information. Be listed as a Founding Donor on the ITNJ website!

4. Your immediate donation will allow us to hold the Inaugural Ceremony simultaneously in the United States and in London, UK, on June 15, 2015, the day the Magna Carta was signed 800 years ago at Runnymede.

5. VOLUNTEER! The volunteers have put in many, many hours to get this project so that the foundational structures are in place to move forward with all due speed. To volunteer send an email to contact@itnj.org .

6. Become educated in the workings of the Law.

When we turned our courts over to the BAR Asso- ciation, we lost many generations of civic-minded individuals who knew the law and who could act as a safeguard to protect our liberty. unshackledOur researchers have proven that knowing the law is the first step. It is not that difficult to learn Natural Law, and to return oversight of government to the sovereign people.

Most of all, we need monthly donors willing to fund the International Tribunal for Natural Jus- tice. We have the foundation in place. We have the documents and the explanations by numerous researchers to prove the mind-games that have been deliberately perpetrated against the people of the world.

NON-ACTION IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.

Now that we know, we have no choice but to find peaceful ways to hold each agent acting for any Corporation accountable to the Rule of Law. Our team has been tireless in our diligence to make the International Tribunal for Natural Justice a force for good. The next step is up to you. We invite your voluntary participation, your prayers, and your donations.

To find out how to get involved and become a founding advocate check out the committee to support the ITNJ: http://itnjcommittee.org

Further, learn about the ITNJ court proceeding by visiting the tribunal’s site:

Originally posted @ The Sovereign Voice


BIGJON,

There is not a single word of truth in this cut and paste waste of text.

The truth is in post #7 here.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174998#post1174998

The truth is at post #9 here. REMEMBER, POST #9.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes

Rod Class ultimately LOST the case on remand anyway.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10229406983741128221&q="Rodney+Class"+&hl=en&scisbd=2&as_sdt=40003
 
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"A majority of the people of the United States (all people today) have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years [now 86 years], freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency. The problem of how a constitutional democracy reacts to great crises, however, far antedates the Great Depression. As a philosophical issue, its origins reach back to the Greek city-states and the Roman Republic. And, in the United States, actions taken by the Government in times of great crises have - from, at least, the Civil War - in important ways, shaped the present phenomenon of a permanent state of national emergency."



https://archive.org/details/senate-report-93-549


A perpetual state of national emergency which allows the government to do that which would be illegal for it to do absent an emergency.


Yep, everything seems to be working just as the Constitution says.
/sarc
Hello Joe King,

Got a case that says this?

If not it is not the law.
 

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BIGJON,

There is not a single word of truth in this cut and paste waste of text.

The truth is in post #7 here.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes&p=1174998#post1174998

The truth is at post #9 here. REMEMBER, POST #9.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?99447-Rod-Class-his-many-hoaxes

Rod Class ultimately LOST the case on remand anyway.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10229406983741128221&q="Rodney+Class"+&hl=en&scisbd=2&as_sdt=40003
Your links are filled with goboldygook. All this all capital letter stuff is crap. It is not english.

I think what I posted is the truth and what you post is crap for US CITIZENS to believe.

The courts in the UNITED STATES are all kangaroo courts of judge made law.

Here is your text:

QUESTION: Why was Rod Class in Washington, D.C. in the first place?

ANSWER: He was manufacturing yet ANOTHER HOAX in an effort to "TRICK" his own followers and others into believing that "Congress" had authorized him to practice law without a license. Class mistakenly believed that Congress had such a power. But, it does not. Class did not know that under Article I, section 8 (which lists all of the powers of Congress) and under the tenth amendment (which reserves TO THE STATES all powers not delegated to the federal government in the U.S. Constitution), ONLY THE STATES HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. (1)

Do you believe that we need a license to practice law?

Regardless, based on his MISTAKEN BELIEF, Class FORGED a two-page document (in all Italic font) consisting of a "FAKE" CONGRESSIONAL LETTERHEAD and a FAKE SIGNATURE PAGE (with a FAKE signature line for BOTH the HOUSE and the SENATE "judiciary committees"). (2) Class FRAUDULENTLY calls his FORGERY his "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL CERTIFICATE" or his "CREDENTIALS", despite that he created it AND ISSUED IT TO HIMSELF (a pattern with Class). In his FORGERY, Class DESIGNATED HIMSELF a "Private Attorney General" under two CIVIL RIGHTS statutes (not realizing that such was actually a CIVIL RIGHTS "CLIENT" of a REAL ATTORNEY who could NOT practice law or represent another person in court). (3) In his FORGERY, Class also DESIGNATED HIMSELF a "14th Amendment, Section 4 Bounty Hunter" (not realizing that such was actually a Union CIVIL WAR SOLDIER 150 years ago). (4) Finally, in his FORGERY, Class also AUTHORIZED HIMSELF to practice law without a license (not realizing that Congress, from whom he would seek a "RECEIVED" stamp on his FORGERY, has no power to provide such an authorization). (No link to this FORGERY is yet available. It was found in a number of Class' cases on Pacer.gov. which will not allow us to link to its cases or documents). Class actually admits to all of this. https://itnj.org/wp-content/uploads/..._Two_Month.pdf (at 2nd page in paragraph 2-4. PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO the 4th PARAGRAPH.).


BACKGROUND I: When ANYONE hand files ANY document with Congress, Congressional aides sign and date-stamp the word, "RECEIVED" on the top page of that document. Then, they provide the person delivering the document with a duplicate of that same signed and date-stamped document for their own records (like a "receipt"). Class then fraudulently uses the signed and date-stamped ("RECEIVED") duplicate of HIS OWN FORGERY to create the illusion that Congress (rather than Class) wrote and issued the FORGERY to Class. (After all, by then Class' FORGERY appears to be on Congressional letterhead, bears Congressional date stamps and has signatures "from Congress").

But, in truth, no single Congressman (much less ALL OF CONGRESS) ever takes any action on any of the FORGERIES that Class' UNILATERALLY hand files with Congressional aides in this way. Indeed under the U.S. Constitution, Congress has no power to take any such action in the first place. But, Class does not know enough to even realize this.

MISTAKES ON TOP OF MISTAKES: All of this means that Class was so legally INCOMPETENT that in creating this FORGERY, he actually solicited signatures and date-stamps FROM THE WRONG GOVERNMENTAL BRANCH (legislative instead of judicial) OF THE WRONG GOVERNMENTAL SOVEREIGN (federal instead of state). You cannot possibly be more INCOMPETENT than that. (In order to manufacture a really good hoax, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LYING ABOUT, and Class does not.).

BACKGROUND II: Class is pathologically desperate to imitate and impersonate every type of person that he claims to hate. Class claims to hate all law enforcement officers of "We the People". So, Class pathologically imitates and impersonates a law enforcement officer. Specifically, Class FRAUDULENTLY-MARKED his two vehicles with several large, FAKE, vinyl decals to make it LOOK like a law enforcement vehicle. (6)

FACTS: On May 30th, 2013, Class (in his imaginary capacity as a "Private Attorney General") was en route from North Carolina to Pennsylvania to "help" an unwary victim LOSE his weapons case there. But, Class stopped in D.C. along the way to obtain some Congressional aide signatures and date-stamps on his FORGERY. In so doing, Class illegally parked his conspicuously-marked vehicle on United States Capitol grounds in a parking lot located closest to occupied Congressional office buildings during business hours. This parking lot was clearly marked in such a way as to indicate that Class was not to park there.

After illegally parking, Class went inside the adjacent Congressional office buildings for the reasons stated. When Class returned to the parking lot (delighted to have obtained what he had come for), he discovered that his conspicuously-marked vehicle was surrounded by a team of uniformed federal law enforcement officers who were busy peering through its windows and counting all of the "dangerous weapons" that were visible inside and located next to occupied Congressional office buildings during business hours. (Think "Timothy McVeigh", the Murrah Federal Building and the Oklahoma City Bombing in a post-911 world.).

When Class returned to his vehicle, officers asked him if the vehicle was his, he replied, "Yes". When officers asked Class it he had driven his vehicle onto United State Capitol grounds and parked it where it sat, Class replied, "Yes". When officers asked Class if the "dangerous weapons" inside the vehicle were his, he replied, "Yes".

Based on the foregoing, the officers obtained a search warrant. Inside Class' vehicle, federal officers found one fully-loaded rifle, three fully-loaded handguns, one of which was completely and illegally unsecured and positioned between the front seats for quick and easy access, several hundred more rounds of ammunition for all four firearms on-board, one large machete on the driver's side door for easy access, fourteen large knives & daggers of varying size and lethal effect, one illegal spring-deployed switch blade knife and three more axes of various sizes and lethal effect.

Based on Class' confessions to officers and based of what officers found using their search warrant, Class was charged and convicted of "carrying" "dangerous weapons" "onto United States Capitol grounds". (7) It's that simple. There was nothing bizarre, unusual, curious, fraudulent, corrupt or illegal about what the officers or the courts did in this case. It could not have possibly been more ordinary and routine.

Unknown to Class, his conduct (in carrying dangerous weapons onto U.S. Capitol grounds) not only violated federal law, it also violated the terms of his conceal and carry permit from the State Of North Carolina (which prohibits persons with such conceal and carry permits to carry firearms onto federal grounds where such is prohibited by federal law, as its was here). So, unknown to Class, his permit offered him no "defense" to the charges against him here. (8) Indeed, Class' violation of his North Carolina conceal and carry permit constituted AN ADDITIONAL OFFENSE COMMITTED BY CLASS.

Unknown to Class, even if he had a second amendment defense to "carrying" firearms or handguns onto United States Capitol grounds in a post 9-11 world, he had no second amendment defense to "carrying" the other "dangerous weapons" (including machetes, knives & daggers, switch blades and axes) onto United States Capitol grounds. So, Class is still factually guilty of violating the subject statute (which prohibits individuals from carrying DANGEROUS WEAPONS, not just firearms, onto U.S. Capitol grounds), even if he has a second amendment defense to carrying the firearms onto U.S. Capitol grounds

NOTE: Class is PATHOLOGICALLY DESPERATE to appear to be something that he is not ("Private Attorney General", "14th Amendment, Section 4 Bounty Hunter", "winning litigator", "legal genius", etc.).

FACT: If Class had not stopped in D.C. to obtain Congressional aide signatures and a date-stamp "RECEIVED" on his FORGERY (in order to appear to be something that he is not), Class WOULD NOT have been arrested and convicted of "carrying DANGEROUS WEAPONS onto U.S. Capitol grounds".

FACT: If Class had not ALSO fraudulently-marked his vehicle with FAKE vinyl decals (in order to appear to be something that he is not), Class' vehicle would have likely escaped the attention of federal law enforcement officers and Class WOULD NOT likely have been arrested or convicted.

ANALYSIS: Many of Class’ legal problems are the direct result of his desperate attempts to appear to be something that he is not ("Private Attorney General", "14th Amendment, Section 4 Bounty Hunter", "winning litigator", "legal genius", etc.).

FINAL NOTE: You cannot fully appreciate Rod Class' arrest on weapons charges in this case without understanding Rod Class' history involving deadly weapons. Class is a TWICE-CONVICTED, weapons-related, CONVICTED FELON. In 2001, Class was ARRESTED and CONVICTED of possessing in his car an illegally-sawed-off, fully-loaded, Springfield shotgun (to increase its lethal effect). At the time of that ARREST, Class' was also in possession of two night sticks outfitted with concealed razor blades (to increase their lethal effect). In 2013, Class was ARRESTED and later CONVICTIED his Washington, D.C. for possessing in his car of one fully-loaded rifle, three fully-loaded handguns, one of which was illegally unsecured and positioned between the front seats for quick and easy access, several hundred more rounds of ammunition for all four firearms on-board, one large machete on the driver’s side door for easy access, fourteen large knives and daggers of varying size and lethal effect, one illegal spring-deployed switch blade knife and three axes of various sizes and lethal effect. In 2014, in North Carolina, Class was ARRESTED and CONVICTED of RESISTING ARREST and at the time of his arrest, Class was in possession of several packages of concealed razor-type blades which were found beneath his clothing when he was frisked. At the time of Class' 2001 ARREST in Ohio (above), Class was on probation for a previous Ohio, WEAPONS-REALTED, CRIMINAL CONVICTION (meaning Class not only committed a new crime 2001, HE ALSO VIOLATED HIS OHIO PROBATION). At the time of Class' 2013 ARREST in Washington, D.C. (above), Class was on probation for a previous North Carolina CRIMINAL CONVICTION (meaning Class not only committed a new crime in 2013, HE ALSO VIOLATED HIS NORTH CAROLINA PROBATION).

If you think the above crap is a crime, it is obvious to me, you are what is wrong with this country. Did the guns get up and kill or maim anyone? Did Class kill or maim anyone? Where is the injured party?
You are one sick lady.


FOOTNOTES:
1). Class was mistaken about taking his FORGERY to Washington, D.C. to obtain Congressional aide signatures and a date stamp "RECEIVED" thereon because STATE LAW (NOT FEDERAL LAW) GOVERNS THE PRACTICE OF LAW. See Const., Art. 1, Sec. 8 (WHICH LISTS ALL OF THE POWERS OF CONGRESS). http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/pa...le-i-section-8 (Note that the power to authorize a person to practice law IS NOT ON THE LIST). Unknown to Class, ONLY THE STATES HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/page/tenth-amendment. Class makes this very same AMATEUR mistake with respect to driver's licenses which are likewise governed by STATE law (not by FEDERAL law).

2. THE COURT DOES NOT BUY CLASS' FRAUDULENT CLAIMS THAT THE "HOUSE AND SENATE" AUTHORIZED HIM TO ACT AS A "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL".;http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...n&as_sdt=40006 . (See Ruling 35).

3. THE "CONCEPT" OF A "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL" (under the two FEDERAL, CIVIL RIGHTS statutes upon which Class relies in pretending to be a private attorney general) RELATES SOLELY TO PAYING ATTORNEYS WHO WIN CASES FOR VICTIMS OF FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS. THE "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL" IS THE ACTUAL "VICTIM" OF THE FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION AND IS THE ACTUAL "PLAINTIFF" IN THE FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CASE AND IS THEACTUAL "CLIENT" OF A REAL ATTORNEY IN FEDERAL COURT (not someone who purports to act on behalf of the victim/plaintiff in court). http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...n&as_sdt=40006 .

WHAT A REAL "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL" LOOKS LIKE:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22c...w=1366&bih=625

WHAT A FAKE "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL" LOOKS LIKE:
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22p...B_enUS715US715

4. WHAT A REAL "14TH AMENDMENT, SECTION 4 BOUNTY HUNTER" ACTUALLY IS:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bounty-System

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_jumper

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...n&as_sdt=40006 .

5). HERE, CLASS ACTUALLY ADMITS TO SEEKING AND OBTAINING CONGRESSIONAL AIDE SIGNATURES AND DATE STAMPS ON HIS "FORGERY" (his homemade, FAKE "Private Attorney General 'Certificate'") IN FURTHERENCE OF THIS HOAX: https://itnj.org/wp-content/uploads/..._Two_Month.pdf (AT PAGE 2. PARA 2-4. PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO PARAGRAPH 4)

https://itnj.org/wp-content/uploads/..._Two_Month.pdf (BEGINNING AT PAGE 2 PARA. 2.).
https://itnj.org/wp-content/uploads/..._18TH_2013.pdf (at the 2nd full paragraph).

6. FAKE "PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL" VEHICLES:

http://www.nc4x4.com/forum/threads/d...actant.159266/

(Go to video FIRST. Then, go to :05-:20).

NOTE: Class was previously CRIMINALLY CONVICTED for illegally installing a REAL police "blue light" on top of his FRAUDULENTLY MARKED vehicle to make it LOOK like a law enforcement vehicle (effectively impersonating a law enforcement officer). Class was sentenced to A YEAR'S PROBATION for that CRIMINAL CONVICTION conditioned on him "not possessing any weapons" of any kind and not committing an offense "in any jurisdiction". Class was actually ON PROBATION for that CRIMINAL CONVICTION when he was arrested in D.C. (with "weapons" here), thereby constituting a VIOLATION OF HIS PROBATION in his North Carolina "blue light" case. But, North Carolina does not yet know this. Otherwise, Class would still be in prison for violation of his North Carolina Probation.

7. THE COURT EXPLAINS THE STATUTE THAT CLASS WAS CHARGED WITH VIOLATING ("An individual...may not CARRY...on the Grounds...of the Capitol Buildings...a DANGEROUS WEAPON...") AND THE COURT PROVIDES THE RELEVANT DEFINITION OF "FIREARM" FOR THE PURPOSES OF THAT SAME STATUTE ("The definition of firearm in this case is...ANY WEAPON...which is designed to or which will EXPEL A PROJECTILE BY ACTION OF AN EXPLOSIVE..."):

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...n&as_sdt=40003 (SEE BOTH SECTIONS, AT 30% THROUGH THE TEXT and AT 65% THROUGH THE TEXT).

Note how the truth (at about 30% and at 65% through the text of this case) squarely contradicts Class' FRAUDULENT claims to his followers about the charges against him and about the relevant statutory definition of a firearm in this case.

8. CLASS VIOLATED HIS NORTH CAROLINA CONCEAL AND CARRY PERMIT BY TAKING HIS RIFLE AND THREE PISTOLS ONTO FEDERAL PROPERTY WHERE SUCH VIOLATED FEDERAL LAW.

N.C.G.S. 14-415.11(C)(4). http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedL...14-415.11.html. (SEE PARA. 4).

ABOUT ROD CLASS:
Rod Class is a functionally-illiterate amateur legal theorist with barely a high school education WHO HAS LOST EVERY SINGLE CASE IN WHICH HE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED (OVER 76 CONSECUTIVE LOSSES IN A ROW, AND STILL COUNTING). Further, Class has a long history of PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS involving DELUSIONS, PATHOLOGICAL OPPOSITION/DEFIANCE of AUTHORITY FIGURES and PATHOLOGICAL LYING. Moreover, Class is a MULTI-CONVICTED, WEAPONS RELATED, CONVICTED FELON who also has SEVERAL ADDITIONAL MISDEMEANOR CONVICTIONS, as well. Because of Class’ well-publicized HATRED of our ELECTED representatives, their appointees and our REPUBLICAN form of government, because of his HISTORY OF PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS and because of his LENGTHY CRIMINAL HISTORY involving DEADLY WEAPONS, Class has been placed on the United States TERRORIST WATCH LIST.

Most importantly, Class is a PROFESSIONAL HOAXER AND CHARLATAN who is behind a number of legal HOAXES which he created and peddles to INTENTIONALLY DEFRAUD the American people. (Google "Judge DALE Hoax", "Debra Jones Hoax", "Private Attorney General Hoax", "14th Amendment, Section 4 Bounty Hunter Hoax", "All Government Agencies Are 'Private Entities' or 'Private Contractors' Hoax" (A.K.A. the "BOMBSHELL: FOURTH Administrative Ruling Hoax"), "Property Into Other Peoples' Names Hoax", "Lawyers Have No Authority Hoax", "Right To Travel Hoax", "My Paperwork Would Have Overturned Every Prior Case Hoax", "The Supreme Court Loves My Paperwork Hoax", "The Private Attorney General 'Certificate' Hoax" (A.K.A. "Why Was Rod Class In Washington, D.C. In The First Place?"), "The Federal Reserve Notes Are Not Money Hoax" (A.K.A. "The Harold Stanley Case Hoax"), "The United States Is A Private, For-Profit Corporation Hoax" (A.K.A. "Title 28 U.S.C 3002(15)(a) Proves That The United States Is A Private, For- Profit Corporation Hoax"), the "Court Registry Investment System Hoax" (A.K.A. The "C.R.I.S. Hoax"), the "Embezzling Federal Funds Hoax" and numerous other hoaxes.).

ANALYSIS:
ROD CLASS (with his inability to read, his lack of education, his ignorance of the law, his delusional belief system, his worthless, amateur legal theories, his lack of honesty and his 100% failure rate in court) IS "LIVING PROOF" THAT THOSE WHO PRACTICE LAW (AND THOSE WHO TEACH THE LAW) SHOULD:
1). BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FOUR-YEAR COLLEGE EDUCATION (a "Bachelor's Degree");
2). BE REQUIRED TO ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL THREE TO FOUR YEAR LAW SCHOOL EDUCATION (a "Juris Doctor's Degree");
3). BE REQUIRED TO PASS THE STATE BAR EXAM (takes three days);
4). BE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO A RIGOROUS STATE CHARACTER AND FITNESS BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION WHICH TAKES SEVERAL MONTHS OR YEARS (NO MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY, NO CRIMINAL HISTORY, honesty, credit history, interviews of employers, teachers, former co-workers, neighbors, relatives, taking finger print samples, taking hand writing samples, etc.).
5). BE LICENSED BY THE STATE AND BE SUBJECT TO THE CONTINUOUS OVERSIGHT AND DISCIPLINE OF THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH OF STATE GOVERNMENT, THE STATE SUPREME COURT (in order to protect the public from INCOMPETENCE and FRAUD).

ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Rod Class. Instead, Snoop4truth exposed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such INTENTIONAL FRAUD inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Rod Class' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have exposed this information here.

The message to all hoaxers and charlatans? Just tell the truth.
 
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Well Anna makes some salient points: The armed conflict we call the Civil War, was never declared as a war by the congress.
Out govt created the Federal govt and is not a party to it's actions. It is still subservient in terms of law, if not in terms of raw power.
The fact is they deceived a sleeping public, not aware of their malfeasance.

This is my paraphrasing of what she has said. In other word she says it much better than I do.
Bigjon,

YOUR COMMENT: Well Anna makes some salient points: The armed conflict we call the Civil War, was never declared as a war by the congress.

MY RESPONSE: There is a good reason for this. The federal government refused to acknowledge the validity of secession of the southern states and refused to acknowledge the confederacy as something independent of the United States as a whole. Instead, the federal government characterized what you call the "Civil War" as "insurrection and rebellion" in the southern states. Under this characterization, the southern states were not a "foreign" states of the type the federal government could or would declare war upon. The federal government still considered the southern states as part of the United States. The federal government characterized its role in what you call the "Civil War" as what you call quelling "insurrection and rebellion". This is the reason that war was not declared.

YOUR COMMENT: Our govt created the Federal govt and is not a party to it's actions. It is still subservient in terms of law, if not in terms of raw power.

MY RESPONSE: If you knew more about history, civics and law you would already know this. The federal government did not create itself. The STATES created the federal government to assist the STATES in connection with things they could not do for themselves, like national defense. for example. In creating the federal government, the STATES delegated some of their sovereignty (powers) to the federal government. All powers that were not delegated to the federal government were reserved to the STATES. So, the federal government is supreme as to the powers that the STATES delegated to it and the STATES are supreme as to the powers the STATE did not delegate to it. In the event of a direct conflict between STATE law and federal law and only in that event (something that almost never occurs), federal law is supreme. In creating the federal government, the STATES made certain that the U.S. Constitution contained protections for INDIVIDUALS as well as the STATES themselves. The federal government is bound by the Constitution and laws of the United States.

YOUR COMMENT: The fact is they deceived a sleeping public, not aware of their malfeasance.

MY RESPONSE: There was never any deception in terms of the structure or organization of the state of federal governments. The reason that people are bamboozled into thinking there was a deception is because anti-government of "We the People" charlatans told them so.

YOUR COMMENT: This is my paraphrasing of what she has said. In other word she says it much better than I do.

MY RESPONSE: Her articulate delivery of her belief system will not make it true. It is still false.
 
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Who is this Anna von Reitz?

Hello Chieftan,

She is an anti-government of "We the People" protester who claims to be some type of civilian "judge". She writes and publishes anti-government of "We the People" articles.

She is idolized and worshipped by others who hate the government of "We the People".
 

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Hello Chieftan,

She is an anti-government of "We the People" protester who claims to be some type of civilian "judge". She writes and publishes anti-government of "We the People" articles.

She is idolized and worshipped by others who hate the government of "We the People".
OK who is "we the people"
 

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Bigjon,

YOUR COMMENT: Well Anna makes some salient points: The armed conflict we call the Civil War, was never declared as a war by the congress.

MY RESPONSE: There is a good reason for this. The federal government refused to acknowledge the validity of secession of the southern states and refused to acknowledge the confederacy as something independent of the United States as a whole. Instead, the federal government characterized what you call the "Civil War" as "insurrection and rebellion" in the southern states. Under this characterization, the southern states were not a "foreign" states of the type the federal government could or would declare war upon. The federal government still considered the southern states as part of the United States. The federal government characterized its role in what you call the "Civil War" as what you call quelling "insurrection and rebellion". This is the reason that war was not declared.

YOUR COMMENT: Our govt created the Federal govt and is not a party to it's actions. It is still subservient in terms of law, if not in terms of raw power.

MY RESPONSE: If you knew more about history, civics and law you would already know this. The federal government did not create itself. The STATES created the federal government to assist the STATES in connection with things they could not do for themselves, like national defense. for example. In creating the federal government, the STATES delegated some of their sovereignty (powers) to the federal government. All powers that were not delegated to the federal government were reserved to the STATES. So, the federal government is supreme as to the powers that the STATES delegated to it and the STATES are supreme as to the powers the STATE did not delegate to it. In the event of a direct conflict between STATE law and federal law and only in that event (something that almost never occurs), federal law is supreme. In creating the federal government, the STATES made certain that the U.S. Constitution contained protections for INDIVIDUALS as well as the STATES themselves. The federal government is bound by the Constitution and laws of the United States.

YOUR COMMENT: The fact is they deceived a sleeping public, not aware of their malfeasance.

MY RESPONSE: There was never any deception in terms of the structure or organization of the state of federal governments. The reason that people are bamboozled into thinking there was a deception is because anti-government of "We the People" charlatans told them so.

YOUR COMMENT: This is my paraphrasing of what she has said. In other word she says it much better than I do.

MY RESPONSE: Her articulate delivery of her belief system will not make it true. It is still false.
I see lets have our cake and eat it too.

MY RESPONSE: There is a good reason for this. The federal government refused to acknowledge the validity of secession of the southern states and refused to acknowledge the confederacy as something independent of the United States as a whole. Instead, the federal government characterized what you call the "Civil War" as "insurrection and rebellion" in the southern states.
So the state's that formed the Federal govt are now subservient to that Federal govt. Sort of what we see today a Federal govt that is at war with "we the people".

"We the people" formed the states and the states formed the Federal govt and now the Federal govt says it is on top and everyone is below it.
 
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Hello Chieftan,

She is an anti-government of "We the People" protester who claims to be some type of civilian "judge". She writes and publishes anti-government of "We the People" articles.

She is idolized and worshipped by others who hate the government of "We the People".
What is her background?
 
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Thanks for that Bigjon, however that is singularly the worst website I have ever come across; a wall of text so long, Trump could use it on the Mexican border.

There are lots of statements with nothing to back them up. Call me naive or whatever, but she comes across as yet another crackpot. Don't get me wrong, she might be 100% correct and on the money so to speak, but she isn't doing herself any favours with that website and how she writes.
 

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Rod Class Case – Comments by Judge Anna von Reitz,
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Posted on November 8, 2014

I don’t have time right now to listen or watch what went on, but this much I can tell you— the Washington, DC Municipality is a separate international city-state like Vatican City, the Inner City of London, and the United Nations.

It is run as a plenary oligarchy by the members of Congress under Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17—–and when Rod stepped foot in THEIR jurisdiction it was the same as if he had entered Egypt or Ireland or China. He became responsible as a visitor for obeying THEIR laws and they have every right to arrest him and prosecute him for disobeying their laws.

His “constitutional right” to keep and bear arms is only guaranteed on the land jurisdiction of the American (domestic) States, not within the physical boundaries of the federal enclaves that operate entirely under maritime and admiralty jurisdiction.

There are three kinds of federal “states” that we commonly deal with—-
the “federal states” that were created as franchises of the United States of America, Incorporated, by the Fourteenth Amendment of the *corporate “*Constitution “to regulate *Federal Citizens* “residing” in the domestic States of the Union (the peaceful inhabitants of the land were specifically excluded— that means, us, American State Citizens who fly the civil flag of The United States of America (Major)).

Then there is the deceptively named “United States of America (Minor)” — a consortium of “federal” states more commonly thought of as federal territories and possessions— Puerto Rico, Guam, etc., operating as a legislative democracy — NOT a Republic — and a completely separate “nation” with respect to us that was created ultimately under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 and the Insular Tariff Cases decided between 1900-1904.

Then there is the “District Government” within the United States of America, (Minor) known as the Municipal Government of Washington, DC, which is a separate international city-state carved out of the “State of New Columbia” that is a member of the states forming the United States of America (Minor) referenced above. This is, from what I can see, the entity that Rod is tangling with—- and it is run as a plenary oligarchy by the members of Congress as a separate nations within a nation within a nation.

DC oligarchy —inside United States of America (Minor) legislative democracy —inside The United States of America (Major)—-like a cancer or two in the body politic, the DC government running on its own peculiar international “laws” which are published as DC Statutes and run entirely in international maritime and admiralty jurisdiction and the United States of America (Minor) also run entirely in international maritime and admiralty jurisdictions from within The United States of America a Republic established on the land jurisdiction of the American States, which is supposed to be functioning under American Common Law.

There you have it—- the good news and the bad news. The only way Rod gets out of this is if 37 of the landed (E)states rise up, send deputies to a Congress, and rewrite The Constitution contract dissolving Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, and that requires renegotiating the underlying Treaties with the British Crown and the British Monarch and could take more than ten years all by itself—-

OR, which seems more expedient—- Rod gets hold of the Congressional Delegation which is supposed to represent the state where he lives and really doesn’t—-and explain that he was acting under conditions of non-disclosure and didn’t realize he was entering a foreign country under their plenary control and that it was never his intention to enter their country or break any of their laws—-

but as an American State Citizen, he is clearly immune from prosecution and would appreciate their assistance in bringing these accusations against him to a peaceful close ending in his release and better understanding overall. Otherwise they will keep him and they will throw the book at him absent him claiming that he is a State Citizen of whatever State he was born in and is immune from prosecution as a foreign state national under international law and Public Policy of the United States (Eleventh Amendment of their corporate Constitution).

But the quickest surest way out is to nail down a Congressional Delegation or two and get them to intervene. As the plenary rulers of DC the rats-in-charge scramble when they see members of the “US Congress” coming.
 

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And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?
No, I didn't say this. Do you honestly think I'd post on GIM if I didn't believe in conspiracies? I'm just trying to understand the arguments put forth by Anna.

You've posted a lot of stuff here, most of which no one will ever read. If you want to have a decent argument, post a summary of your main points and let everyone debate them one at a time. Don't shut down argument by burying people in an avalanche of articles.

Again, I have no opinion one way or the other at this point.
 

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I speed read... and I skipped the encyclopedia posted all in capitals, bold, and red.

Looked bloody. :2 thumbs up::secret:
 

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No, I didn't say this. Do you honestly think I'd post on GIM if I didn't believe in conspiracies? I'm just trying to understand the arguments put forth by Anna.

You've posted a lot of stuff here, most of which no one will ever read. If you want to have a decent argument, post a summary of your main points and let everyone debate them one at a time. Don't shut down argument by burying people in an avalanche of articles.

Again, I have no opinion one way or the other at this point.
And I posted a very short mssg that you are ignoring. Why?

You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME?

Give me a hint as to what your problem is with Anna's stuff?

I have no idea of where to start.
 

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OK, Anna's stuff plus a whole lot of others stuff;

I'm not out here touting just Anna's stuff. If she was the only one who was saying it I would also say crackpot and move on. but she is just one in a long line of people who talk about how our country was formed and how it is supposed to work.

Two classes of citizenship: State citizens and US Citizens.

State citizens are "We the People" with god given rights.
US citizens are slaves of the federal govt who are granted civil rights by congress.

State citizens are out of reach for the Federal govt, unless they commit some sort of capital crime or some sort of interstate commerce. State citizens have the capacity to be Electors as opposed to voters.

The basic problem is the Feds changed our States into States of States. And that State of State is a Federal entity based in DC.
Most of us are going blissfully along thinking I'm a State of xxx citizen. Which is a US citizen, domiciled in Washington DC.
In order to be a citizen of your state; You have to declare it. You have to do something about it. If you do nothing the govt assumes you are a happy
US citizen slave.



Anna is trying to do what should have been done in 1870, reconstruct the States by populating our respective States with State citizens.

Here is a place with a road map back to your birthright status: https://theamericanstatesassembly.n...JAczlb44ThsfltWZW5Y_ZZtBOJno7icogoc7M7SRf8tYk

There are simpler paths. One is to secure a proper State Citizen Passport.


http://sovereigntoserf.com/roger-sayles-radio/peoples-patriot-network/

http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html
Detailed instructions on filling out the passport form.
 
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Almost as if NEW YORK and New York aren't the same thing...

wurd.
 

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I've read some about the issue, but can't prove or disprove one view or another. I have my doubts about the conspiratorial view, only because it is so arcane, that few people in or out of government could ever understand it, let alone apply it in practice.
What is arcane about being a State citizen?
What is a US citizen?
 

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Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 310

...and everyone loses their minds because it seems corporations are "persons" too. lol

Watching the misguided masses complain about corps-es having the same rights as a "person" was rather comedic though. Hijack the meaning of a few words and people get real blind...real fast.
 

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No, I didn't say this. Do you honestly think I'd post on GIM if I didn't believe in conspiracies? I'm just trying to understand the arguments put forth by Anna.

You've posted a lot of stuff here, most of which no one will ever read. If you want to have a decent argument, post a summary of your main points and let everyone debate them one at a time. Don't shut down argument by burying people in an avalanche of articles.

Again, I have no opinion one way or the other at this point.

OK, Anna's stuff plus a whole lot of others stuff;

She is just one in a long line of people who talk about how our country was formed and how it is supposed to work.

Two classes of citizenship: State citizens and US Citizens.

State citizens are "We the People" with god given rights.
US citizens are slaves of the federal govt who are granted civil rights by congress.

State citizens are out of reach for the Federal govt, unless they commit some sort of capital crime or some sort of interstate commerce. State citizens have the capacity to be Electors as opposed to voters.

The basic problem is the Feds changed our States into States of States. And that State of State is a Federal entity based in DC.
Most of us are going blissfully along thinking I'm a State of xxx citizen. Which is a US citizen, domiciled in Washington DC.
In order to be a citizen of your state; You have to declare it. You have to do something about it. If you do nothing the govt assumes you are a happy
US citizen slave.


Anna is trying to do what should have been done in 1870, reconstruct the States by populating our respective States with State citizens.

Here is a place with a road map back to your birthright status: https://theamericanstatesassembly.n...JAczlb44ThsfltWZW5Y_ZZtBOJno7icogoc7M7SRf8tYk

There are simpler paths. One is to secure a proper State Citizen Passport.

h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFVIlP9PFkY


http://sovereigntoserf.com/roger-sayles-radio/peoples-patriot-network/

http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html
Detailed instructions on filling out the passport form.

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvzWF8f-R9U

 
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OK, Anna's stuff plus a whole lot of others stuff;

I'm not out here touting just Anna's stuff. If she was the only one who was saying it I would also say crackpot and move on. but she is just one in a long line of people who talk about how our country was formed and how it is supposed to work.

Two classes of citizenship: State citizens and US Citizens.

State citizens are "We the People" with god given rights.
US citizens are slaves of the federal govt who are granted civil rights by congress.

State citizens are out of reach for the Federal govt, unless they commit some sort of capital crime or some sort of interstate commerce. State citizens have the capacity to be Electors as opposed to voters.

The basic problem is the Feds changed our States into States of States. And that State of State is a Federal entity based in DC.
Most of us are going blissfully along thinking I'm a State of xxx citizen. Which is a US citizen, domiciled in Washington DC.
In order to be a citizen of your state; You have to declare it. You have to do something about it. If you do nothing the govt assumes you are a happy
US citizen slave.



Anna is trying to do what should have been done in 1870, reconstruct the States by populating our respective States with State citizens.

Here is a place with a road map back to your birthright status: https://theamericanstatesassembly.n...JAczlb44ThsfltWZW5Y_ZZtBOJno7icogoc7M7SRf8tYk

There are simpler paths. One is to secure a proper State Citizen Passport.


http://sovereigntoserf.com/roger-sayles-radio/peoples-patriot-network/

http://coppermoonshinestills.com/id71.html
Detailed instructions on filling out the passport form.
I listened to 11+ minutes of this, that's about all I could tolerate.

Guy starts out saying he moved to Argentina, a country that has experienced repeated currency crises and depressions in modern times, as well as an unstable political environment, because he “understood what’s coming to our country”. Good luck with that. And then, the book. He can’t get 1 minute into this thing without flogging the book. Subtlety isn’t his strong suit.

About 5:40 in, he states that Ed Snowden can get a passport by filling out the standard DS-11 form and making some special declaration. The passport he will be given is “totally different” than the standard passport. He says the document will state that it is “for US citizens/nationals”. And, he claims, this document will makes you a “slave” to the federal government. How is this “totally different” than any other passport? If true, why would Snowden want such a passport? No explanation. This is totally contradictory.

At 8:00, he reads the clause in the DS-11 form that states that using fraudulent information is punishable by fines and imprisonment. But, he says, you have to “read between the lines” to know what this means. Which he fails to do, and just skips right down to the signature box on the form where he cites the distinction between “US citizen” and “non-citizen nationals”. The implication seems to be that “non-citizen nationals” are some special class of people. But he doesn’t actually say this. He just leaves it for the listeners to follow up on.

So, this listener did follow up. Here’s what I found.

US Department of State website defines non-citizen nationals as follows….

As defined by the INA, all U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals but only a relatively small number of persons acquire U.S. nationality without becoming U.S. citizens. Section 101(a)(21) of the INA defines the term “national” as “a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.” Section 101(a)(22) of the INA provides that the term “national of the United States” includes all U.S. citizens as well as persons who, though not citizens of the United States, owe permanent allegiance to the United States (non-citizen nationals).

Section 308 INA confers U.S. nationality but not U.S. citizenship, on persons born in "an outlying possession of the United States" or born of a parent or parents who are non-citizen nationals who meet certain physical presence or residence requirements. The term “outlying possessions of the United States” is defined in Section 101(a)(29) of the INA as American Samoa and Swains Island. No other statutes define any other territories or any of the states as outlying possessions.

In addition to Section 308 of the INA, Section 302 of Public Law 94 - 241 provides for certain inhabitants of the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, who became United States citizens by virtue of Article III of the Covenant, to opt for non-citizen national status. (See requirements of Section 302).

What part of the bold statement above is unclear? A non-cirizen national is nothing more than someone born in a US possession (which is defined as American Somoa and Swain Islands) or born of parents from said possessions. What is so goddam mysterious about this? Do any of the people listening to this bother to investigate this guy's statements?

In short, he failed to prove that are, in fact, two kinds of passports. He failed to follow through on the distinction between US citizens and non-citizen nationals. Why? Because if he did, he’d have to admit that the dstinction is not relevant to any of his claims. Instead, he just implies that there is some special difference and then quickly switchhes gears and starts talking about the federal reserve. That is his modus operandi. Drop a little bomb, and then switch subjects to keep the listeners muddled. He keeps his claims vague enough for plausible deniability later on. No one can later claim he spoke falsely. He really said nothing.

You seem the game here?
 
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Same question for you, think about it.

OK, then. Number one. I am just some guy who reposts Anna's stuff. I'm not trained in law and I'm not qualified to write anything for or about what Anna says.
What I see when I read Anna's messages is all the stuff I learned about the way "our" govt is supposed to work.

But it doesn't. And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?

Everything I see is that all that surrounds us is one real big conspiracy. From religion to banks to govt are one big conspiracy.

You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME?
Bigjon,

YOUR COMMENT: Same question for you, think about it.

MY RESPONSE: Anna's article is 100% dependent upon the Act of 1871 which only created a MUNICIPAL / CITY government for the CITY OF Washington, D.C., not a government for the United States of America. Like most other amateur legal theorists, she mistakenly believes that the Act of 1871 created a new government for the United States of America (rather than merely a CITY government for Washington, D.C.). Further, like most other amateur legal theorists, Anna mistakenly believes that the terms, "body corporate" and "municipal corporation", which appear in the Act of 1871, converted the entire United States of America into a "corporation" (when in fact the terms "body corporate" and "municipal corporation" as used in the Act of 1871 actually mean a CITY GOVERNMENT for the CITY of Washington, D.C.. Her repeated use of the terms "MUNICIPAL" and "CORPORATION" in her article above make it crystal clear that she was not only referring to the Act of 1871, she was actually quoting it!

YOUR COMMENT: OK, then. Number one. I am just some guy who reposts Anna's stuff. I'm not trained in law and I'm not qualified to write anything for or about what Anna says.

MY RESPONSE: I applaud your recognition that people like you with no training in the law are not qualified to write about it. This is, of course, completely and undeniably true. But, you are intellectually incapable of applying this simple logic to OTHERS (like Anna and Rod Class) who likewise have no training in the law and who are likewise unqualified to write about it. Yet, you desperately cling to their words as if they were qualified to speak about it. But, they are not. They are selling hatred of the ELECTED government of "We the People". Nothing more.

YOUR COMMENT: What I see when I read Anna's messages is all the stuff I learned about the way "our" govt is supposed to work. But it doesn't.

MY RESPONSE: I think Anna means well. But, respectfully, she is utterly clueless about the government, the law and history. She is simply selling hatred of the ELECTED government of "We the People" because she doesn't know who the REAL enemy is. Nothing more.

YOUR COMMENT: And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?

MY RESPONSE: Not so. There are conspiracies. But, these conspiracies ARE NOT in the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People". Conspiracies operate OUTSIDE the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People". People involved in conspiracies DO NOT want to be accountable to "We the People". So, they operate OUTSIDE the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People", seek but influence the ELECTED government of "We the People". This makes those people involved in conspiracies UNACCOUNTABLE to "We the People". It is a brilliant scheme.

YOUR COMMENT: Everything I see is that all that surrounds us is one real big conspiracy. From religion to banks to govt are one big conspiracy.

MY RESPONSE: There are conspiracies. But, "EVERYTHING" around us IS NOT a conspiracy. Yes, banks as we know them (with "fractional reserve" and "no reserve" lending) are conspiracies. But note, THEY ARE NOT THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF "WE THE PEOPLE"! They are OUTSIDE the ELECTED government of "We the People" and merely seek to influence the ELECTED government of "We the People". That way, they are unaccountable to "We the People". it is a perfect scheme.

YOUR COMMENT: You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME

My RESPONSE: Yes. It is your name, capital letters or no capital letters.
 

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I listened to 11+ minutes of this, that's about all I could tolerate.

Guy starts out saying he moved to Argentina, a country that has experienced repeated currency crises and depressions in modern times, as well as an unstable political environment, because he “understood what’s coming to our country”. Good luck with that. And then, the book. He can’t get 1 minute into this thing without flogging the book. Subtlety isn’t his strong suit.

About 5:40 in, he states that Ed Snowden can get a passport by filling out the standard DS-11 form and making some special declaration. The passport he will be given is “totally different” than the standard passport. He says the document will state that it is “for US citizens/nationals”. And, he claims, this document will makes you a “slave” to the federal government. How is this “totally different” than any other passport? If true, why would Snowden want such a passport? No explanation. This is totally contradictory.

At 8:00, he reads the clause in the DS-11 form that states that using fraudulent information is punishable by fines and imprisonment. But, he says, you have to “read between the lines” to know what this means. Which he fails to do, and just skips right down to the signature box on the form where he cites the distinction between “US citizen” and “non-citizen nationals”. The implication seems to be that “non-citizen nationals” are some special class of people. But he doesn’t actually say this. He just leaves it for the listeners to follow up on.

So, this listener did follow up. Here’s what I found.

US Department of State website defines non-citizen nationals as follows….

As defined by the INA, all U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals but only a relatively small number of persons acquire U.S. nationality without becoming U.S. citizens. Section 101(a)(21) of the INA defines the term national” as “a person owing permanent allegiance to a state. Section 101(a)(22) of the INA provides that the term “national of the United States” includes all U.S. citizens as well as persons who, though not citizens of the United States, owe permanent allegiance to the United States (non-citizen nationals).

Section 308 INA confers U.S. nationality but not U.S. citizenship, on persons born in "an outlying possession of the United States" or born of a parent or parents who are non-citizen nationals who meet certain physical presence or residence requirements. The term “outlying possessions of the United States” is defined in Section 101(a)(29) of the INA as American Samoa and Swains Island. No other statutes define any other territories or any of the states as outlying possessions.

In addition to Section 308 of the INA, Section 302 of Public Law 94 - 241 provides for certain inhabitants of the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, who became United States citizens by virtue of Article III of the Covenant, to opt for non-citizen national status. (See requirements of Section 302).

What part of the bold statement above is unclear? A non-cirizen national is nothing more than someone born in a US possession (which is defined as American Somoa and Swain Islands) or born of parents from said possessions. What is so goddam mysterious about this? Do any of the people listening to this bother to investigate this guy's statements?

In short, he failed to prove that are, in fact, two kinds of passports. He failed to follow through on the distinction between US citizens and non-citizen nationals. Why? Because if he did, he’d have to admit that the dstinction is not relevant to any of his claims. Instead, he just implies that there is some special difference and then quickly switchhes gears and starts talking about the federal reserve. That is his modus operandi. Drop a little bomb, and then switch subjects to keep the listeners muddled. He keeps his claims vague enough for plausible deniability later on. No one can later claim he spoke falsely. He really said nothing.

You seem the game here?
I should explain, I have not taken any of these steps. I think it's a viable option if you want to get the republic back.
At 77 and a wife who is dead set against doing anything our of the norm, I'm not up to that fight.

I wish someone would have brought this info to my attention 60 years ago.

The bolded section is not a concern to most American's, as most of us were born in one of the several (50) States.

I want to be a State National of Minnesota and not a US citizen. As such I owe permanent allegiance to the United States. The individual states of the several (50) states, never allowed dual citizenship. I can't be both a Minnesotan and a US citizen.
But a US Citizen also be a citizen of the State of Minnesota. The State of Minnesota is a body politic created as a federal entity and has no land.


Minnesota (State) has land.

national” as “a person owing permanent allegiance to a state. Section 101(a)(22) of the INA provides that the term “national of the United States” includes all U.S. citizens as well as persons who, though not citizens of the United States, owe permanent allegiance to the United States (non-citizen nationals).


Traps to avoid.
1. Do not put down that you are a U.S. citizen on anything. Usually the proper choice given is Citizen of the United States, Non-citizen national or other. They used to have places on the form to check off State Citizen but not anymore. Yes, they make it as confusing as possible.)
 
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Bigjon,

YOUR COMMENT: Same question for you, think about it.

MY RESPONSE: Anna's article is 100% dependent upon the Act of 1871 which only created a MUNICIPAL / CITY government for the CITY OF Washington, D.C., not a government for the United States of America. Like most other amateur legal theorists, she mistakenly believes that the Act of 1871 created a new government for the United States of America (rather than merely a CITY government for Washington, D.C.). Further, like most other amateur legal theorists, Anna mistakenly believes that the terms, "body corporate" and "municipal corporation", which appear in the Act of 1871, converted the entire United States of America into a "corporation" (when in fact the terms "body corporate" and "municipal corporation" as used in the Act of 1871 actually mean a CITY GOVERNMENT for the CITY of Washington, D.C.. Her repeated use of the terms "MUNICIPAL" and "CORPORATION" in her article above make it crystal clear that she was not only referring to the Act of 1871, she was actually quoting it!

YOUR COMMENT: OK, then. Number one. I am just some guy who reposts Anna's stuff. I'm not trained in law and I'm not qualified to write anything for or about what Anna says.

MY RESPONSE: I applaud your recognition that people like you with no training in the law are not qualified to write about it. This is, of course, completely and undeniably true. But, you are intellectually incapable of applying this simple logic to OTHERS (like Anna and Rod Class) who likewise have no training in the law and who are likewise unqualified to write about it. Yet, you desperately cling to their words as if they were qualified to speak about it. But, they are not. They are selling hatred of the ELECTED government of "We the People". Nothing more.

YOUR COMMENT: What I see when I read Anna's messages is all the stuff I learned about the way "our" govt is supposed to work. But it doesn't.

MY RESPONSE: I think Anna means well. But, respectfully, she is utterly clueless about the government, the law and history. She is simply selling hatred of the ELECTED government of "We the People" because she doesn't know who the REAL enemy is. Nothing more.

YOUR COMMENT: And then you say there are no conspiracies. Does the forest have trees?

MY RESPONSE: Not so. There are conspiracies. But, these conspiracies ARE NOT in the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People". Conspiracies operate OUTSIDE the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People". People involved in conspiracies DO NOT want to be accountable to "We the People". So, they operate OUTSIDE the organizational structure of the ELECTED government of "We the People", seek but influence the ELECTED government of "We the People". This makes those people involved in conspiracies UNACCOUNTABLE to "We the People". It is a brilliant scheme.

YOUR COMMENT: Everything I see is that all that surrounds us is one real big conspiracy. From religion to banks to govt are one big conspiracy.

MY RESPONSE: There are conspiracies. But, "EVERYTHING" around us IS NOT a conspiracy. Yes, banks as we know them (with "fractional reserve" and "no reserve" lending) are conspiracies. But note, THEY ARE NOT THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF "WE THE PEOPLE"! They are OUTSIDE the ELECTED government of "We the People" and merely seek to influence the ELECTED government of "We the People". That way, they are unaccountable to "We the People". it is a perfect scheme.

YOUR COMMENT: You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME

My RESPONSE: Yes. It is your name, capital letters or no capital letters.
Please define "we the people"
 

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YOUR COMMENT: You have a NAME on your drivers license. Is it your name or is it YOUR NAME

My RESPONSE: Yes. It is your name, capital letters or no capital letters.
BS:

Find me a manual of style that shows any proper personal name can be spelled in all caps.

It is not proper English grammar.
 
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Snoops version of we the people is WE THE LAWYERS PERSONS.

The rest of you peons just exist for payin off my mercedes fodder...
 

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I applaud your recognition that people like you with no training in the law are not qualified to write about it.
Which perfectly illustrates why lieyers were initially forbidden from public service...and why the profession itself is repugnant to the concept of a free peoples. Law must be clear, concise, and specific. If it is not, it is only thus so that some may gain advantage over others through trickery.

Lieyers and banksters...surely the two most loathsome professions one may choose. Let's see, shall I choose to be a "legal" counterfeiter...or one of the maggots that protects the crooks by means of deceit?