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The REAL source of Gravity???

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It's hard to take any scientist wearing a Ghostbusters T-shirt very seriously. :D

And he has a weird eye movement pattern. o_O

I think I can buy his theory,, but it doesn't really explain the very bottom-line force as to how time causes gravity.
 
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He starts out saying that gravity as a "force" has existed for 250 years...which is untrue. Newton's provably wrong theory was inflicted on humanity 335 years ago...and technically it's merely an extension of Mikołaj Kopernik's gibberish inflicted on humanity in 1543(479 years ago).

He then says "about a century later we learned...". Then launches into a flight of fancy describing Einstein's brain damaged lunacy...speshul and general relativity. Which are THEORIES we're supposed to accept as fact...even when they're provably wrong. The clock/twin paradox is a huge problem for speshul relativity and the fact that time dilation isn't proven...and likely never will be is simply glossed over.

He talks about time differences at two points measured out to thousandths of a second, but fails to mention that humans have no way to synchronize two clocks that accurately. It's all just more theoretical crap full of holes used to cover up for the last theoretical crap full of holes we're all supposed to treat as fact anyway.

NOBODY references gravity in any practical sense the way Einstein did in general relativity...for a reason. It's fukking retarded. Physicists cling to Newton's provably wrong gibberish for this very reason...despite the fact that it's wholly inadequate at predicting the motion even of just three object's interaction.

It's all just a bunch of theoretical mental masturbation that makes some people feel superior if they claim they understand it. ...much like string theory. Then when these silly concepts meet with experiment...they fall flat on their faces. See 120 orders of magnitude problem for details. Human understanding of gravity is provably wrong.
 

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Let's examine the root of the word. Gravi..........or.................gravy.

The more gravy you eat, the more you weigh.

that's the gravity of the situation.
 

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If you didn't have time, why would you need gravity?
To measure things. The word "gravity" comes from the Latin word "gravis/gravitas" which means simply "heavy".

The idea that the word "gravity" is intended to describe a universal force...that's also not a force is part of a mind fuck that began nearly 500 years ago. In fact someone in this thread just made that very point...likely whilst remaining blissfully unaware of doing so. To wit:

that's the gravity of the situation.

Here the word "gravity" means simply "gravis/gravitas" or "heaviness/weight" and does not refer to a silly theory tale to help describe physics on Earth as pertaining to interactions between objects based on their density relative to a surrounding medium. Archimedes buoyant force principle existed long before the word "gravity" was perverted into a theory tale used to re-define human (mis)understanding of the universe.
 

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There is no gravity, the earth sucks
 

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If you didn't have time how would you measure anything?
Well you wouldn't, as you'd be out of time and therefore dead. ;)

Not debating whether time is a "thing" or not, merely whether it's inseparable from space. That humans perceive the passage of time is undeniable...but whether or no it's a fundamental property of "space fabric" is open to debate. Special relativity is where the notion of "space/time" came from, due to the concept of time dilation.
 

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my science teachers told me it's because of the earth's spin

and oil comes from fossils
 

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Must have been an interesting class. lol

The alleged rotation of Earth supposedly counterbalances gravity...perfectly...across the entirety of the exterior surface of the alleged spheroid. ...which is really dumb if you think about the mechanics of it for even a few minutes.
 

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If you didn't have time how would you measure anything?

Time is the one element that gives meaning to any type of measurement. Would we indeed exist without it?
 

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my science teachers told me it's because of the earth's spin

and oil comes from fossils
...but if you were at the north pole wouldn't there be little to no gravity...less spin...and more gravity at the equater because you'd really be whipping around, and wouldn't one be flattened with all the G forces?

So little time, so little gravity.
 

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Well you wouldn't, as you'd be out of time and therefore dead. ;)

Not debating whether time is a "thing" or not, merely whether it's inseparable from space. That humans perceive the passage of time is undeniable...but whether or no it's a fundamental property of "space fabric" is open to debate. Special relativity is where the notion of "space/time" came from, due to the concept of time dilation.
You would need to have an 'outside of time' section so that God could exist.

Force and mass are two metrics that have no time dimension in physics.
Only in math, Tom, just mathematics.

Time is a dimension just as surely as length, width and height are.
I would have to say that time is the most important dimension for our existence.

JMSO,
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Time is a dimension just as surely as length, width and height are.
Which is conventional thinking, however to a large extent, such thinking hinges upon the assumption that the speed of light is absolute across all inertial reference frames. Humans tend to be drawn to such concepts because it makes things relatively(no pun intended) simple. It makes the universe seem neat and tidy...even orderly. This is how we got to a point where the concept of Minkowski space/time is considered to be "mainstream".

There is however, significant evidence to support the notion that this is not the case. That rather than being an integral part of 3D space/time(a 4th dimension if you like) as seemingly indicated by theoretical time dilation/length contraction, the model works fine with time existing merely as a quantity to measure change in 3D space...as humans on Earth perceive it.

Again, much of this depends upon where one stands with regard to Einstein's questionable theories, which the man himself suggested would never be proven or disproven. ...a rather interesting commentary if one believes special/general relativity to be based in scientific methodology and not merely a mathemagickal construct.

You would need to have an 'outside of time' section so that God could exist.
Meaning that you believe God exists in an absolute reference frame? In Einsteinian terms that would mean that God exists with the ability to travel at light speed and therefore has infinite mass and the ability to exist in all places and all times simultaneously.

There are interesting questions here to be sure. If however, we stick to what can be proven conclusively through observation, then special/general relativity go away and time becomes again simply a way for humans to quantify changes in the 3D environment they observe.