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Rand Paul is dead on the money with this:

https://www.newsweek.com/rand-paul-...H0MErO15pcsYTqVnIdAssizxJij0-KUNun7ap_TBdYArM

Quote:"I'll give you an example," Paul continued. "Last year, I tried to attach to a spending bill a prohibition to have any money spent by Planned Parenthood. You know what happened? [GOP leadership] sat me down and one of the senior Republican senators said, 'We cannot have the vote today.' I said 'why?' He said 'we might win.'"

Shocked audience members could be heard gasping in disbelief at Paul's anecdote, before he added that the senior Republican senator in the room simply smiled at him when asked if getting Democrat support was more important than unborn children's lives.



If the GOP is afraid of winning the vote for a conservative position, then we have truly lost the war already.
 

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Both parties have selected issues to pretend fight about, abortion and gun rights are two of the main ones. The Rethuglicans help you keep your guns while the DemonRats fight for abortion and the wrasslin event has been going on a long time. Meanwhile Repukes pay for their girlfriends abortion and the DemonRats keep their guns out of sight.
 

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Those of us here have been aware of this for sometime! It's not 'us' who need convincing! No one here believes that any politician gives a rat's ass about anybody but himself!! It's the fucking drones who think Jeb or Joe or Hillary or any politician is going to be the answer to what ails us! Politicians are the root of all that is evil in this world. Political parties are just big olds
clubs comprised of like minded people with the same goals (enriching themselves) who collect millions of dollars for doing nothing but spending it all up! Only lawyers and pedophile priests are close to that level.
 
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Politicians are the root of all that is evil in this world.
"Professional" needs to be added to that. Political duty needs to become a sojourn from a respectable career in the private sphere to which you need to return after a relatively short period of time. These buggers need to live under the regime they create. They should also be paid well for service and hung if they recieve money from any external source while in office or connected to any official service, before, during or after.
 

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It needs to be a well paid form of community service, a civic duty that the best and brightest perform because it is a great adjunct to their CV. Lets get some respectability back into this equation.
 

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Really?

There were quite a few saps who insisted Trump Almighty was going to be the saviour who imprisoned the Clintons, cleaned up Wall Street and deported all the illegals.
Including the person you quoted.
 

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"Professional" needs to be added to that. Political duty needs to become a sojourn from a respectable career in the private sphere to which you need to return after a relatively short period of time. These buggers need to live under the regime they create. They should also be paid well for service and hung if they recieve money from any external source while in office or connected to any official service, before, during or after.
Feckin Amen to that, Zed. Debatable about the pay but they should be held accountable.
 

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It's still possible President Trump can run the insane leftists, both R & D, back into hiding. I continue to think they are only the 20% they have always been they are just louder now because they own the media.
Trump has gotten them out in the open and speaking freely about what they really stand for. That was a hell of an accomplishment on it's own.
Now if we can clean up the election process we may shut these communist loons up for another 40 years or so.

If not then we'll have to play Cowboys and commies. The commies won't do too well if that happens.


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Really?

There were quite a few saps who insisted Trump Almighty was going to be the saviour who imprisoned the Clintons, cleaned up Wall Street and deported all the illegals.
Including the person you quoted.
Trump isn't a DC politician...he's a businessman and a clean up specialist! His job is not to be presidential (this is where the nevertrumpster fags have it wrong). His base isn't looking for presidential. We're patiently waiting as the noose gets tighter and tighter around the swamp creatures. (we have no choice now but to wait) You nevertrumpsters are really getting nervous huh? Too bad you didn't get Hillary for your prez! That would have been perfect karma for you!
 
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It's still possible President Trump can run the insane leftists, both R & D, back into hiding. I continue to think they are only the 20% they have always been they are just louder now because they own the media.
Trump has gotten them out in the open and speaking freely about what they really stand for. That was a hell of an accomplishment on it's own.
Now if we can clean up the election process we may shut these communist loons up for another 40 years or so.

If not then we'll have to play Cowboys and commies. The commies won't do too well if that happens.


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I admire your loyalty...but ? your expectations.
 

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"Professional" needs to be added to that. Political duty needs to become a sojourn from a respectable career in the private sphere to which you need to return after a relatively short period of time. These buggers need to live under the regime they create. They should also be paid well for service and hung if they recieve money from any external source while in office or connected to any official service, before, during or after.
Name 3 DC politicians who actually built a meaningful and successful career outside of politics. I suspect one would need to do some research to find that many. Hell, I'll even give you Mittens, as he was a big whig in a venture capital company which was wildly successful at buying and destroying other small and medium private companies. I view Mittens as the antithesis of Trump! Smart but selfish!
 

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I admire your loyalty...but ? your expectations.
I for one no longer have expectations. What we're seeing with Trump and what's he's doing to American and world politics is unprecedented and unpredictable!! I'm sitting in the peanut gallery watching and waiting for the next move like the rest of us!

What are your expectations?
 

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I don't have any expectations...Tramps just another Politian to me.
 

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I don't have any expectations...Tramps just another Politian to me.
All Presidents have to be political. More than the media lets on, people were tired of career politicians. Hence, Donald John Trump became the 45th President of the United States. He has been trying to right the ship with very little help.
 

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All Presidents have to be political. More than the media lets on, people were tired of career politicians. Hence, Donald John Trump became the 45th President of the United States. He has been trying to right the ship with very little help.
nevertrumpsters are like the commies pissing and moaning about immigrants.....the commies conveniently drop the word 'illegal' when they speak their drivel about how cruel and inhuman it is to send immigrants back home and how immigrants have built this country. . Just like never trumpsters drop the word 'career' when calling Trump a politician. Yeah, he's the Prez so technically he's now a politician, but his bank account isn't built on 40 years worth of kickbacks, bribes and 'donations' he's received for passing laws favorable to central business, big oil and global tyrants (See The Clinton Foundation for an extreme example)

Trump isn't going to get any help from the nevertrumpsters so it's our job to watch his back
 
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You don't have to get nasty just because my expectations don't match yours. still a free thought world isn't it?
 

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You don't have to get nasty just because my expectations don't match yours. still a free thought world isn't it?
Sorry, I forgot I need to tread lightly when defending the POTUS these days. I wouldn't want to offend anyone
 

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This is why so many of them are called RINO's.
....and the never trumpsters will still try to say, "but he had control of Congress for two years and still didn't no nuthin'" lol
 

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Sorry, I forgot I need to tread lightly when defending the POTUS these days. I wouldn't want to offend anyone
I never said anything that needed that reaction!!! I just don't have end of the rainbow expectations.
 

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who got nasty gliddy?
I thought we saved that for the smokin room.

BF
I may be wrong, but I'm thinkin' it might have been the_shooting called 'em a British cigerette. Lol
 

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I take the blame for my candor. You need to have thick skin to challenge the folks here. Most of us have developed that in life. Some are still working on it.

That being said, I may have been a bit harsh with glidden out of the gate in this thread. He's entitled to his opinion too and my responses, while comical and quite witty in nature, may have been slightly over the top. My apologies sir! Let us move forward in a positive and constructive manner!
 

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Cool story rand. Name the senior Republican..
As far as I'm concerned he's there, he's the swamp. Drain or drown DC
Yeah. He’s part of the problem then if he won’t name them.
 

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he's a lowly peon in the system still and was almost killed already once.
he's doing his best he can to stay alive
I would like to see him run against the current top dog traitor 'n chief in 2020
I'm having a tough time following along. He would never make it out of the primaries. He has great ideas but doesn't have the gut nor the ability it takes to implement them without getting shot! I wouldn't depend on just the SS to protect him if he somehow made it to the OO. How did that work out for the last guy who tried to take on the beast...JFK???
 
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the truth would come out slowly and while surrounded by military loyalists.

Solutions to those problems you mention do exist. Today the narrative is very strong and that can be used against the current owners of it.
You just described the progression of Donald Trump's first term!
 

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Rand Paul is dead on the money with this:

https://www.newsweek.com/rand-paul-...H0MErO15pcsYTqVnIdAssizxJij0-KUNun7ap_TBdYArM

Quote:"I'll give you an example," Paul continued. "Last year, I tried to attach to a spending bill a prohibition to have any money spent by Planned Parenthood. You know what happened? [GOP leadership] sat me down and one of the senior Republican senators said, 'We cannot have the vote today.' I said 'why?' He said 'we might win.'"

Shocked audience members could be heard gasping in disbelief at Paul's anecdote, before he added that the senior Republican senator in the room simply smiled at him when asked if getting Democrat support was more important than unborn children's lives.


If the GOP is afraid of winning the vote for a conservative position, then we have truly lost the war already.
There is no solution to the world's or our nations problems in a left and right blood sucking=politics system.