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The COVID vaccine arrived at my hospital on Thursday. Some of my friends from the Nuc Med department and the Cardiology PA's department were first in line. I just don't understand :( They were so excited to be first in line. One of the PA's called it "a great day in American history". So far no requirement from the hospital to take the vaccine but it won't last long. I keep my status of religious exemption totally private except with one other coworker who also uses it. There does seem to be quite a lot of resistance from black employees who have a natural distrust of the Government. I have so many conflicting emotions. Its hard to see people you care about so willingly be taking this vaccine. Then I have days where I wonder if I'm the deluded crazy one but I know in my heart I can't ignore that voice that says this is all so wrong. Any other health workers here in this situation?
 

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Thousands of people have been unable to work or perform daily activities, or required care from a healthcare professional, after getting the new COVID-19 vaccine, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

As of Dec. 18, 3,150 people reported what the agency terms “Health Impact Events” after getting vaccinated.
https://www.naturalblaze.com/2020/1...-affected-following-covid-19-vaccination.html
Brio they will keep that as quiet as possible :( With these no liability clauses from the hospital and drug company people will have no recourse.
 

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Yes they will. Late Nov fb and twitter announced their collusion with .gov to remove any 'disinformation' on reactions to the vaccine. Probably every other social media platform as well.
 

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My wife sent me this...

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Yes they will. Late Nov fb and twitter announced their collusion with .gov to remove any 'disinformation' on reactions to the vaccine. Probably every other social media platform as well.
this feels like a bad dream :( Now to see people I care about falling right in line makes it worse.
 

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All the problems are from government dictates. And they've already told us the vaccine isn't changing those.
 
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Hope... that is the laughable part. They've been thoroughly propagandize into fear.
not just fear but a tremendous amount of guilt about stopping the pandemic with the vaccine. We are told its our responsibility as health care workers to protect our patients.
 

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Hope... that is the laughable part. They've been thoroughly propagandize into fear.

and she's hospital upper management.
 

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this feels like a bad dream :( Now to see people I care about falling right in line makes it worse.
The only one in my family who recognizes the scam is my hubby, he hears the bits of info I come across. What the MSM doesn't tell us. Even my sister, a physiotherapist. and very savvy on the immune system and refuses vaccines, is considering this one. They all think I'm a nut job. lol
 

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The COVID vaccine arrived at my hospital on Thursday. Some of my friends from the Nuc Med department and the Cardiology PA's department were first in line. I just don't understand :( They were so excited to be first in line. One of the PA's called it "a great day in American history". So far no requirement from the hospital to take the vaccine but it won't last long. I keep my status of religious exemption totally private except with one other coworker who also uses it. There does seem to be quite a lot of resistance from black employees who have a natural distrust of the Government. I have so many conflicting emotions. Its hard to see people you care about so willingly be taking this vaccine. Then I have days where I wonder if I'm the deluded crazy one but I know in my heart I can't ignore that voice that says this is all so wrong. Any other health workers here in this situation?

You sound like a precious metals investor...
Do NOT take it, we support you.
Gofundme if needed.
 

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Avalon I'm really interested to hear how it's been in your work place. Are you swamped with covid patients?
 

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Avalon I'm really interested to hear how it's been in your work place. Are you swamped with covid patients?
not swamped as in unmanageable but the numbers are at an all time high for us. At the lowest point we had 13 Corvids out of 600 beds. We are not at 60. About 11 of those are critical on vent. A portion of the 60 are asymptomatic and there for other reasons but tested positive for COVID. We do have some struggling. We have a lot of employees test positive. Some breeze through and others have had serious issues. There is not denying this is a nasty and very real virus that seems very fickle in its choice of who it ravages but this has turned into something perverted and evil.
 

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not swamped as in unmanageable but the numbers are at an all time high for us. At the lowest point we had 13 Corvids out of 600 beds. We are not at 60. About 11 of those are critical on vent. A portion of the 60 are asymptomatic and there for other reasons but tested positive for COVID. We do have some struggling. We have a lot of employees test positive. Some breeze through and others have had serious issues. There is not denying this is a nasty and very real virus that seems very fickle in its choice of who it ravages but this has turned into something perverted and evil.

How do they determine it is Covid, PCR? Covid has never been isolated, it is computer sequenced. 500,000 a year die from smoking related respiratory conditions, how many don't die but are very sick?

Some much lying, disinfo, disinfo, financial incentivizing, ulterior motives - until the death rate explodes, I remain skeptical.

https://principia-scientific.com/even-cdc-now-admits-no-gold-standard-of-covid19-virus-isolate/
 

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Isn't this the first mRNA vaccine in history? Does it not modify the genetics to simulate the presence of the virus? Are these modified genetics transmissible to offspring?

I do not want to be a GMO.
 

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I was sad to learn that my son-in-law, who is a nurse on a covid floor, got the vax 2 days ago. He was relieved & happy to get it.
He sure is brainwashed. I just hope for my daughter's & grandson's sake that he will have no ill effects.
 

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Both of my daughters are in the health field. They each got the first dose last week. I can't say I'm happy with their choices.
 

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relevant if you have the time

 

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The only one in my family who recognizes the scam is my hubby, he hears the bits of info I come across. What the MSM doesn't tell us. Even my sister, a physiotherapist. and very savvy on the immune system and refuses vaccines, is considering this one. They all think I'm a nut job. lol

Why God Why? How is that even possible.
 

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Interesting connection between money and coercion to vaccinate. Money has always been the preferred tool of TPTB to control the sheep.
 

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That CDC vaccination document sure looks easy enough to replicate....
 

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Why God Why? How is that even possible.

Her husband is terrified of the virus and, much like what Avalon faces, is pressured to take the vaccine to 'protect' others. I don't know if he thinks that if he gets the vaccine then it shouldn't matter whether she does or not.
 

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Isn't this the first mRNA vaccine in history? Does it not modify the genetics to simulate the presence of the virus? Are these modified genetics transmissible to offspring?

I do not want to be a GMO.

Researchers at the Salk Institute, University of California-San Diego, and a US-based biotech company, Vical Incorporated, published work in 1989 demonstrating that mRNA, using a liposomal nanoparticle for drug delivery, could transfect mRNA into a variety of eukaryotic cells.[53] In 1990, Jon A. Wolff et al. at the University of Wisconsin, reported positive results where "naked" (or unprotected) mRNA was injected into the muscle of mice.[3] These studies were the first evidence that in vitro transcribed (IVT) mRNA could deliver the genetic information to produce proteins within living cell tissue.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine#History

They've been working on a mRNA vaccine since 1989 and have never managed to have one approved, but in 9 months it is with EUA.
I'd like to know why.
 

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Brio,

So good to hear from you,
Hope you are aok and all is well
 

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Brio,

So good to hear from you,
Hope you are aok and all is well

Thanks Scorp, doing really well, went up North for a couple winters, back now. Good to see you too!! :beer:
 

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Now to see people I care about falling right in line makes it worse.

exactly right Av,

that is my interpretation also,
I cannot compute how readily and easily people are falling into line

we have long talked of these types of things, speculating on whether or not leo's would be friend or foe, whether a neighbor would be friend or foe, and so on down the line,

to speculate on it, then to see it real time are vastly different,
all cool to talk big about it and comment accordingly,

but to physically see it happen, to watch the people, how scared they are,
I just go into full 'tilt', as it just seems so unfathomable to me
 

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For the 1st time in history a disease has been politicized and if anything you hear about it is true, it is pure happenstance because that truth just happens to align with some faction's political aims. Virtually everything you hear about covid is propaganda.
 

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I cannot compute how readily and easily people are falling into line
From '2 weeks to flatten the curve' to 'you're selfish and want to kill people' because you won't wear a mask... The guilt trip is amazing...

Big box stays open, yet small box stays closed. Nothing makes any logical sense.

Just had a 'discussion' with the wife about it. She's gone overboard with Clorox wiping the outside packages. Groceries in the garage and Clorox wipes as well...

I told her I don't need permission to exist! If I get the flu, I'll do what I do every time in the past. Go to bed. IF it's cv19 I have quercitine & zinc. I take Vit D anyway. I'm done with it.

She's sulking...
 

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exactly right Av,

that is my interpretation also,
I cannot compute how readily and easily people are falling into line

we have long talked of these types of things, speculating on whether or not leo's would be friend or foe, whether a neighbor would be friend or foe, and so on down the line,

to speculate on it, then to see it real time are vastly different,
all cool to talk big about it and comment accordingly,

but to physically see it happen, to watch the people, how scared they are,
I just go into full 'tilt', as it just seems so unfathomable to me

BINGO !!! That`s EXACTLY how it is !!!
 

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Peer pressure is an amazing thing. Amazing Polly did a really good video on this and mask wearing. Forget the name of the experiment but its just ingrained in people to do what other people do. It takes a GIMer to stand up and tell someone they are being a moron.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/OA2CnYZRDzmR/
 
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Peer pressure is an amazing thing. Amazing Polly did a really good video on this and mask westing. Forget the name of the experiment but its just ingrained in people to do what other people do. It takes a GIMer to stand up and tell someone they are being a moron.
Now it is so much easier for TPTB to see the "trouble makers" in public.
 

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From '2 weeks to flatten the curve' to 'you're selfish and want to kill people' because you won't wear a mask... The guilt trip is amazing...

Big box stays open, yet small box stays closed. Nothing makes any logical sense.

Just had a 'discussion' with the wife about it. She's gone overboard with Clorox wiping the outside packages. Groceries in the garage and Clorox wipes as well...

I told her I don't need permission to exist! If I get the flu, I'll do what I do every time in the past. Go to bed. IF it's cv19 I have quercitine & zinc. I take Vit D anyway. I'm done with it.

She's sulking...
I'm old enough to remember two weeks to flatten the curve. Seems so long ago.
 

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best meme out there

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I talked with someone at the hardware store today that I hadn't seen in a couple of months. Offered my condolences on the passing of his father. He didn't die of vivid, btw. The man offered me a handshake and I accepted. It's been a half a year since a gesture like that came about. The only thing I can think is he must not be afraid of little, old me.
 

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I talked with someone at the hardware store today that I hadn't seen in a couple of months. Offered my condolences on the passing of his father. He didn't die of vivid, btw. The man offered me a handshake and I accepted. It's been a half a year since a gesture like that came about. The only thing I can think is he must not be afraid of little, old me.

Really its been odd for me because not that much changed. Ive had about 4 people ask me to wear a mask. But id say just about as many as before still shake hands.
 

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I talked with someone at the hardware store today that I hadn't seen in a couple of months. Offered my condolences on the passing of his father. He didn't die of vivid, btw. The man offered me a handshake and I accepted. It's been a half a year since a gesture like that came about. The only thing I can think is he must not be afraid of little, old me.

I went out for dinner and drinks with a buddy of mine over the summer. I hadn't seem him in about 6 months. The first thing I did when he arrived was to reach out my hand to shake his. He was taken aback and admitted he was pleasantly surprised. We live in a liberal shithole where everyone is scared of their own shadow. His mindset is like mine, but he didn't know that until we chatted. Most won't even give a fist bump....ridiculous.