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I used to have pretty conventional thinking about vaccines. It wasn't until this year that I put in any time to researching them.
Here is an interview of a doctor who came out of medical school believing vaccines were fantastic. However, after carefully
gathering data from thousands of patients over many years, he came to realize that unvaccinated people are significantly healthier
than vaccinated peers, and that many diseases are caused by vaccines.
Near the end of the interview, he talks specifically about the Covid vaccines, and the push for health passports.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rBhtFuIZiA3x/
Here is an interview of a doctor who came out of medical school believing vaccines were fantastic. However, after carefully
gathering data from thousands of patients over many years, he came to realize that unvaccinated people are significantly healthier
than vaccinated peers, and that many diseases are caused by vaccines.
Near the end of the interview, he talks specifically about the Covid vaccines, and the push for health passports.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rBhtFuIZiA3x/
Because of better sanitation, Polio was already on its way out.
On April 12, 1955 the government announced the first vaccine to protect kids against polio. Within days, labs had made thousands of lots of the vaccine. Batches made by one company, Cutter Labs, accidentally contained live polio virus and it caused an outbreak.
More than 200,000 children got the polio vaccine, but within days the government had to abandon the program.
“Forty thousand kids got polio. Some had low levels, a couple hundred were left with paralysis, and about 10 died,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a pediatrician, distinguished professor, and director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan. The government suspended the vaccination program until it could determine what went wrong.
It took several incidents for people to start distrusting vaccines. Even after thousands of kids got sick from the first polio vaccine in 1955, when the program restarted, parents made sure their children got vaccinated. They had clear memories of epidemics that paralyzed between 13,000 and 20,000 children every year. Some were so profoundly paralyzed that they could not even breathe easily on their own, and relied on machines called iron lungs to help them breathe.
“Parents were pushing their kids to get to the head of the line to get the polio vaccine, because they had seen epidemics every summer for years, and saw kids in iron lungs and they were terrified,” Markel said.
Markel said people’s attitudes started to change between 1955 and the problematic 1976 swine flu vaccination project.
On April 12, 1955 the government announced the first vaccine to protect kids against polio. Within days, labs had made thousands of lots of the vaccine. Batches made by one company, Cutter Labs, accidentally contained live polio virus and it caused an outbreak.
More than 200,000 children got the polio vaccine, but within days the government had to abandon the program.
“Forty thousand kids got polio. Some had low levels, a couple hundred were left with paralysis, and about 10 died,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a pediatrician, distinguished professor, and director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan. The government suspended the vaccination program until it could determine what went wrong.
It took several incidents for people to start distrusting vaccines. Even after thousands of kids got sick from the first polio vaccine in 1955, when the program restarted, parents made sure their children got vaccinated. They had clear memories of epidemics that paralyzed between 13,000 and 20,000 children every year. Some were so profoundly paralyzed that they could not even breathe easily on their own, and relied on machines called iron lungs to help them breathe.
“Parents were pushing their kids to get to the head of the line to get the polio vaccine, because they had seen epidemics every summer for years, and saw kids in iron lungs and they were terrified,” Markel said.
Markel said people’s attitudes started to change between 1955 and the problematic 1976 swine flu vaccination project.
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Thanks for finding & posting that.
Well worth the time to listen.
I, 35 years ago, questioned my wife's reluctance to follow the vaccine schedule the Dr office recommended for our sons.
Polio gimped up 2 of my relatives & so I was of the mindset that "vaccines as a whole" were good.
The ADHD thing feels like a case of breaking windows so that people have jobs repairing windows.
Well worth the time to listen.
I, 35 years ago, questioned my wife's reluctance to follow the vaccine schedule the Dr office recommended for our sons.
Polio gimped up 2 of my relatives & so I was of the mindset that "vaccines as a whole" were good.
The ADHD thing feels like a case of breaking windows so that people have jobs repairing windows.
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Government produced safety instructions for a new coronavirus vaccine indicate that it should not be used by pregnant or breast-feeding mothers and children. In addition, they state that it is unknown what effect the COVID-19 mRNA vaccine will have on fertility.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/pfize...cy-2-months-unknown-fertility-impacts/5732865
https://www.globalresearch.ca/pfize...cy-2-months-unknown-fertility-impacts/5732865
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Nobody seems able to demonstrate conclusively that the vaccine will not work against the ability of humans to generate the protein syncytin-1. This is a protein that's essential for women to create placenta material to bring babies to term.
The information seems to be all over the place here, with "official" sources claiming it's not a problem and that people claiming so are merely fear mongering. Yet, until this is resolved, I think it's irresponsible for humans to be allowing this hastily produced vaccine into their bodies...and that goes 5x for women of child bearing age.
Just don't do it until there's more information available.
The information seems to be all over the place here, with "official" sources claiming it's not a problem and that people claiming so are merely fear mongering. Yet, until this is resolved, I think it's irresponsible for humans to be allowing this hastily produced vaccine into their bodies...and that goes 5x for women of child bearing age.
Just don't do it until there's more information available.
this is what people don't want to understand. Nothing is for free. Vaccines take a toll on the human body and especially the auto immune system. You have to weigh the risk of the vaccine against the potential damage. That's hard to do when main stream medicine tries to ignore that there are side effects to vaccines even though its right on the label in many cases.
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I believe RA is or can be triggered by a viral infection. My grandmother was ate up by RA. She ended up with two artificial knees and her hands and feet were tortured angles.
Back in the 70s I dislocate my Right Ankle and comminuted fracture of the Fibula. All put back together via surgery. The Orthopedic Surgeon warned me I'd be walking on an arthritic ankle when I got old. The ankle took about 10 years to strengthen back up fully.
No issues with the ankle. But about 25yrs ago I started dabbling with colloidal silver and I notice my viral issues becoming minimal and easily treated with higher intake of CS and now EIS.
There is no sign of Arthritis in my Right ankle at 66.
Back in the 70s I dislocate my Right Ankle and comminuted fracture of the Fibula. All put back together via surgery. The Orthopedic Surgeon warned me I'd be walking on an arthritic ankle when I got old. The ankle took about 10 years to strengthen back up fully.
No issues with the ankle. But about 25yrs ago I started dabbling with colloidal silver and I notice my viral issues becoming minimal and easily treated with higher intake of CS and now EIS.
There is no sign of Arthritis in my Right ankle at 66.
Lucky, no telling where it hits or who gets whammed. Mom has it, I'm fine so far but younger than when she got it. She still jogs and hikes though her feet have no cartilage left. Arthritis is an auto-immune disorder, makes me wonder how vaccines affect that. She was kicked badly by her horse in 2006, really bad. She said while she was convalescing the RA went entirely away. I guess a collapsed lung, contused heart, ruptured spleen and 8 flail ribs gave her immune system something else to think about.
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100%. All drugs are a tradeoff. One must always assess the risks to one's own body when introducing foreign substances. Drugs must be filtered by the liver and renal system and often put additional stress on these systems. To justify this, the absence of said drug must be more harmful than the theoretical presence of said drug otherwise the default position should always be NO. This goes for legal, illegal, OTC, and prescription drugs.
I see nothing to convince me that this vaccine's presence in my body in any way improves my odds of living a long and fruitful life. Meanwhile, I've no clear idea what's in it or how it will affect my long term health...so the answer is a HELL NO.
I see nothing to convince me that this vaccine's presence in my body in any way improves my odds of living a long and fruitful life. Meanwhile, I've no clear idea what's in it or how it will affect my long term health...so the answer is a HELL NO.
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Because there are different "Vaccines", wouldn't it be easy to give the poor and less desirable a sterilization version and the rich and famous a placebo.
Make one version for the essential workers (because they work and pay taxes) and another for all those standing in breadlines every day.
Wouldn't it be easy to make one version with a kill switch and one with just normal saline.
Wouldn't this be easy if all the sheep fell into line and wore their masks and stood on the appropriate "X" while standing in line.
This is the stuff that runs through my head while standing in line, unmasked, at the grocery store! I see only about 5% of the people now not wearing masks when I venture out. I hope there are places that have more people willing to take a stand when the time comes, or this Country is in big trouble. Of course we only needed III% to fight and win the Revolutionary war so maybe the 5% I'm seeing take a stand might be enough, maybe.
Anyway, Take care and Merry Christmas!
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Make one version for the essential workers (because they work and pay taxes) and another for all those standing in breadlines every day.
Wouldn't it be easy to make one version with a kill switch and one with just normal saline.
Wouldn't this be easy if all the sheep fell into line and wore their masks and stood on the appropriate "X" while standing in line.
This is the stuff that runs through my head while standing in line, unmasked, at the grocery store! I see only about 5% of the people now not wearing masks when I venture out. I hope there are places that have more people willing to take a stand when the time comes, or this Country is in big trouble. Of course we only needed III% to fight and win the Revolutionary war so maybe the 5% I'm seeing take a stand might be enough, maybe.
Anyway, Take care and Merry Christmas!
Dozer
Great podcast on C2C on vaccines. Dr Paul Thomas who just got his license suspended for speaking out. They do discuss ivermectin too. https://zfirelight.blogspot.com/2020/12/12-16-20-vaccination-controversies.html
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So far there seems to be at least two bad clusters. We saw some bad reactions in Alaska and quite a few in Nashville. I wonder if those vaccines either were compromised in shipping (ie got too cold or warm) or they were purposefully sent higher doses, still using people as lab rats to dial in the desired effects.