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My wife works in a nursing home. All the residents have had both shots. The wife did not get one. No residents of the nursing home have died, or even been sick since receiving both shots. There are 58 residents in the facility.
I pray it stays that way. I want to be the crazy one.
 

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I am definitely not saying to get the shot. I want no part of it. Just relating what is happening at wifes work. A few of the employees, all fat as fuck, were mildly ill for a few days after the 1st dose. The wife thinks they could have been faking as they are lazy and dont want to work as well.
 

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Also I call it 'the shot' as opposed to a vaccine. From my rudimentary understanding it is not a vaccine, but rather a genetic modification injection.
 

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Brio, it was really sad I watched those threads encouraging pregnant healthcare workers to take the vaccine in horror. A portion said they would wait but many others said they felt getting covid while pregnant was way more dangerous than the vaccine and took the shots. Then after most healthcare workers had already been vaccinated "they" announced perhaps non healthcare pregnant women should skip the vaccine since there really was no data. Just what does it take to set off someone's bullshit detector?
All it SHOULD take is a government employee ...... a Demoncrat ......or a Liberal saying that something is GOOD for you !!!
 

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All it SHOULD take is a government employee ...... a Demoncrat ......or a Liberal saying that something is GOOD for you !!!
what got me was the Doctors. many of these women went to their OBY-GYN Doctors and asked about the vaccine. Instead of being told there was no data and they may want to think about that most Drs said of course you need the vaccine.
 

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what got me was the Doctors. many of these women went to their OBY-GYN Doctors and asked about the vaccine. Instead of being told there was no data and they may want to think about that most Drs said of course you need the vaccine.
A young lady is carrying grand daughter number 2 and I'm grateful she is holding off on getting the shot. Not at all happy she and my son will get it but I'm with you Avalon, I hope I'm wrong.
 

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I wouldn't give a damn at all about these experimental injections if they weren't forcing them on people. The media has lied about vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine, and ivermectin. The media has fed false scarcity narratives about these injections, and falsely inflated the dangers of covid. Fauci is on video being jabbed with something in his left arm, and the next day says his right arm is sore from the injection. Nursing home nurses are saying that old people who get the injection lose vitality, and die within days. The media refuses to tell the public about the 500+ vaccine deaths in the CDC's own VAERS system. The Rockefeller Foundation is trying to force people to take the jab or never fly again. This is an act of war against humanity. There is no way in hell they're forcing people to take injections for a disease with a 99% recovery rate because they care about their well-being.
i agree with aboslutely everything you said here.
 

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https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2021-02-12/sputnik-v-authorized-in-26-countries

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Sputnik V authorized in 26 countries

February 12, 2021, 10:31
Sputnik V authorized in 26 countries

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MOSCOW, Feb. 12, 2021

Montenegro and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines have approved Sputnik V.

Sputnik V is among top 3 coronavirus vaccines with most authorizations granted
globally.

MOSCOW, Feb. 12, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- The Russian Direct Investment Fund
(RDIF, Russia's sovereign wealth fund) announces the approval of Russian
Sputnik V vaccine against coronavirus in Montenegro and Saint Vincent and the
Grenadines. In total, 26 countries have already authorized Sputnik V.

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines is the first island nation of the Caribbean
to register Sputnik V.

The vaccine was approved both in Montenegro and Saint Vincent and the
Grenadines under the emergency use authorization procedure without additional
local clinical trials. Sputnik V is one of the world's top three coronavirus
vaccines in terms of the number of approvals issued by government regulators.

The vaccine had been approved earlier in Russia, Belarus, Argentina, Bolivia,
Serbia, Algeria, Palestine, Venezuela, Paraguay, Turkmenistan, Hungary, UAE,
Iran, Republic of Guinea, Tunisia, Armenia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Republika
Srpska (entity of Bosnia and Herzegovina), Lebanon, Myanmar, Pakistan,
Mongolia and Bahrain.

Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, said:

"By the end of the week Sputnik V has been approved in 26 countries in Europe,
Latin America, Middle East, Africa, Asia and North America exceeding the plan
announced by RDIF earlier. Clinical trial data published in The Lancet medical
journal demonstrated high efficacy and safety of the vaccine, which is also
easy to distribute and affordable in price. Sputnik V is recognized globally
as one of the key vaccines which will help protect the humankind and return to
normal life."

Sputnik V has a number of key advantages:

* Efficacy of Sputnik V is 91.6% as confirmed by the data published in the
Lancet, one of the world's oldest and most respected medical journals; it
is one of only three vaccines in the world with efficacy of over 90%;
Sputnik V provides full protection against severe cases of COVID-19.
* The Sputnik V vaccine is based on a proven and well-studied platform of
human adenoviral vectors, which cause the common cold and have been around
for thousands of years.
* Sputnik V uses two different vectors for the two shots in a course of
vaccination, providing immunity with a longer duration than vaccines using
the same delivery mechanism for both shots.
* The safety, efficacy and lack of negative long-term effects of adenoviral
vaccines have been proven by more than 250 clinical studies over two
decades.
* The developers of the Sputnik V vaccine are working collaboratively with
AstraZeneca on a joint clinical trial to improve the efficacy of
AstraZeneca vaccine.
* There are no strong allergies caused by Sputnik V.
* The storage temperature of Sputnik V at +2+8 C means it can be stored in a
conventional refrigerator without any need to invest in additional
cold-chain infrastructure.
* The price of Sputnik V is less than $10 per shot, making it affordable
around the world.


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If it looks like a "Vaccine Passport / Certificate" is going to become mandatory to travel...
I just might check on driving to Hungary... depending on availability and possibility of driving through Italy and Austria... in the camper... Been wanting to go there for a while - and beyond...
 
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what got me was the Doctors. many of these women went to their OBY-GYN Doctors and asked about the vaccine. Instead of being told there was no data and they may want to think about that most Drs said of course you need the vaccine.
Avalon, we are experiencing mass insanity. I've been seeing it everywhere in all groups, even amongst the smartest people in society. I've been trying to find the explanation or AN explanation, but I'm at a loss. If it is something in our air, water, or food, it should be affecting all of us. In terms of the numbers, I estimate only 3% of us are sane and fully aware. The rest are operating under some kind of mass hypnosis or delirium.

It's not the first time in history we've seen collective madness, but this time, it seems to be permeating every part of society. I don't trust doctors anymore and I avoid the medical profession like the plague (pun intended). In fact, I really don't trust anyone anymore.
 

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Avalon, we are experiencing mass insanity. I've been seeing it everywhere in all groups, even amongst the smartest people in society. I've been trying to find the explanation or AN explanation, but I'm at a loss. If it is something in our air, water, or food, it should be affecting all of us. In terms of the numbers, I estimate only 3% of us are sane and fully aware. The rest are operating under some kind of mass hypnosis or delirium.

It's not the first time in history we've seen collective madness, but this time, it seems to be permeating every part of society. I don't trust doctors anymore and I avoid the medical profession like the plague (pun intended). In fact, I really don't trust anyone anymore.
I am operating on weed and beer. I dont give a shit bout anything.
 

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I estimate only 3% of us are sane and fully aware
Probably about the same % that is not in debt........
Think about it. Debt makes people do stupid things.......... and be slaves with zero future.
 

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Probably about the same % that is not in debt........
Think about it. Debt makes people do stupid things.......... and be slaves with zero future.
And the same 3% don't watch TV.
 

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I am definitely not saying to get the shot. I want no part of it. Just relating what is happening at wifes work. A few of the employees, all fat as fuck, were mildly ill for a few days after the 1st dose. The wife thinks they could have been faking as they are lazy and dont want to work as well.
Most of them will start developing blood disorders and cancer in 3 to 12 months.
 

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What an insulting article... hey you can get a free breakfast at the pancake house if you take the vaccine..LOL
Here's why a surprising number of healthcare workers are rejecting the vaccine, despite having witnessed the immense suffering of the COVID-19 pandemic
Joshua Zitser and Sophia Ankel
8 hours ago


A nurse administers a dose of the Moderna vaccine in Los Angeles, California. Between 20 and 40% of frontline workers in Los Angeles have refused a shot. Mario Tama/Getty Images
  • Vaccine hesitancy is above average for healthcare workers working on the frontlines of the pandemic.
  • Insider spoke to three healthcare workers about some of the reasons behind the worrying trend.
  • Experts told Insider having "trusted messengers" in local communities will help tackle the problem.
  • Visit the Business section of Insider for more stories.

Melody Butler worked as a nurse in Long Island, New York, during the 2009 swine flu pandemic.
She was pregnant and reluctant to get a mandatory vaccination. "I came across some information that was rather scary about the vaccine," Butler told Insider. "There were reports online that, supposedly, people were getting really sick from it."
Concerned, she approached a colleague, a clinical nursing educator, to discuss the horror stories she'd come across.
"She was able to debunk them on the spot," Butler said. "She explained why they were wrong and helped me to dive deeper into the websites."

She took the time to point out that credible health organizations or authors with legitimate medical credentials didn't make these websites.
"It really surprised me that I had fallen victim to these manipulative websites," Butler said. "I was embarrassed."
Eventually, Butler made an appointment and got vaccinated. Meanwhile, a pregnant friend could not secure a shot because of supply shortages in upstate New York.
"She caught the H1N1 flu and ended up needing to be admitted to the hospital," she said. "Due to the illness, she ended up losing one of her twins."

It shook Butler. "I could have willingly put myself in a similar situation because of this misinformation online," she said.
Butler was motivated to set up a Facebook group called 'Nurses Who Vaccinate' to supply the correct information to colleagues around the US. The group quickly blew up, recruiting 1,200 members. Its mission is to convert nurses into immunization advocates.
The COVID-19 pandemic has given it a new urgency as a worrying number of healthcare workers are shunning vaccines.
'There are different tiers to vaccine hesitancy'
Surprisingly, vaccine skepticism is higher than average among those working in a healthcare setting.

A Kaiser Family Foundation survey of 1,676 American adults found that 27% respondents were hesitant to get a vaccine. That figure rose to 29% of the respondents who work in a healthcare setting.
A report by the health nonprofit Surgo Ventures spoke to 2,504 healthcare workers, and 15% said they were offered the vaccine and turned it down.
In some states, the numbers are much higher. In Ohio, 60% of nursing-home workers decided against a vaccine in December, Gov. Mike DeWine said.
Up to 40% of frontline workers in Los Angeles have also refused a COVID-19 shot, public-health officials told the Los Angeles Times. In neighboring Riverside County, this figure rose to 50%.

A vaccination center in Riverside, California, where up to 50% of frontline workers have refused a COVID-19 shot. Gina Ferazzi/LA Times via Getty Images
While these numbers are concerning for public health officials, it is unclear how many healthcare workers are hesitant to take the vaccine imminently and how many are steadfastly anti-vaccine.

"There are different tiers to vaccine hesitancy," Butler said.
Some are reluctant to be in the first round of vaccinations.
"A lot of nurses just want to see everyone get their second shot and make sure they're OK before they feel comfortable getting it," Butler said.
But others are unlikely ever to be convinced to get a shot.

"These people are so married to the anti-vaxx cause that they're not interested in being educated or asking questions."
Conspiracy theories and misinformation
Despite scientific evidence showing vaccines' safety and efficacy, some people eschew the data in favor of baseless claims and discredited myths.
A widely-shared fiction says the shot contains an injectable microchip and suggests Microsoft founder Bill Gates is plotting to use the vaccine to track the locations of the world's population.

Tampa residents over the age of 65 waiting for healthcare workers to administer the COVID-19 vaccine. Octavio Jones/Getty Images
Melissa Anne, a nurse at an assisted living facility in Tampa, Florida, isn't writing them off.

"I leave the door open as a possibility that there may be people with bad intentions behind these vaccines," she told Insider.
Despite social-media giants' policies to crack down on vaccine misinformation, Facebook and Instagram are the breeding grounds for false claims.
For example, last week, a widely-shared Facebook post inaccurately claimed that a doctor's miscarriage resulted from the coronavirus vaccine.
The woman in question, Dr. Michelle Rockwell, said her miscarriage took place before she had been vaccinated.

"How soulless and predatory of someone to take someone's heartbreak and modify it to further their own agenda," she wrote on Instagram. "Misinformation is spread so quickly because people don't pause and think before hitting the share button."
Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, told Insider he believed misinformation could be contributing to a lower take-up rate of vaccines.
'They're waiting until spring'
While some healthcare workers do hold these extreme views, others are hesitant about getting a vaccination so soon into the rollout.
Dr. Stephen Noble, a heart surgeon in Olympia, Washington, is not generally opposed to vaccines.

"I'm not a vaccine denier or anti-vaxxer," he told Insider. "I've vaccinated my kids, and I get vaccinated with the flu vaccine every year."
But Noble said he believes the COVID-19 vaccine rollout started too quickly to instill confidence.
"One of the issues that concern me is that we just don't have long-term data," he said. "The vaccine was supposed to be a three-year study, but somehow, we stopped it at six months and said, 'You know what, this data is good.'"
While Noble is declining the chance to be vaccinated now, he is not ruling it out for the future. He said he was considering getting a shot in the early summer once more data becomes available.

Butler, the founder of Nurses Who Vaccinate, said she believes Noble's views are widely shared and many healthcare workers would eventually come around to the vaccines.
"I know some nurses have a timeline in their head," she said. "They're waiting until spring."
While it is true that the vaccine has been rolled out at an unprecedented pace, experts are seeking to reassure people that corners have not been cut.
"It was not developed too fast. It was developed expediently," Benjamin said. "These vaccines have been under development as a class for many, many years. We were able to pivot to the specific type of vaccine for this particular organism very quickly.

"We know, historically, most of the bad stuff that happens with vaccines occurs in the first few months," he said. "We're outside that window now."
Dr. Hemi Tewarson, a visiting senior policy fellow at the Duke-Margolis Centre for Health Policy, agreed.
"I think there's a real need to make sure that the science is explained in very clear terms," Tewarson told Insider. "The efficacy rate of 95% is fantastic. There were some mild side effects but literally no serious side effects."
Vaccines are the 'best option'
While some healthcare workers will choose to get vaccinated at a future date, others do not see vaccines as the medical solution.

Dr. Jane Orient, the executive director of the politically conservative Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, is adamant that she will never get vaccinated against COVID-19.
"I am just not convinced by the evidence, either for the effectiveness or the safety," she told Insider.
Instead, Orient said we should rely on medication.
"Vaccines are not the only alternative," she said. "There are safe, effective treatments that have been tested for decades on hundreds of millions of people."


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Orient said hydroxychloroquine — an antimalarial drug — should be prescribed for COVID-19 patients.
Hydroxychloroquine became a household name after it was praised by former President Donald Trump, who told reporters he was taking it.

Former President Donald Trump announced May 18 he had been taking hydroxychloroquine for almost two weeks as a preventative measure against COVID-19. GEORGE FREY/AFP via Getty Images
Studies have shown that the drug does not prevent coronavirus infections in people who were recently exposed to the virus. Other studies have shown the drug failed to help hospitalized patients.
In June, the Food and Drug Administration revoked the drug's emergency use authorization after a clinical trial found that the medicine showed no benefit, neither decreasing the likelihood of death nor speeding recovery.

Tewarson, the health policy expert, said she wants healthcare workers to know that vaccines are the "best option."
"None of us want to go to the hospital and have a risk of death. That's terrible," she said. "So getting the vaccine to enough people is what is really going to prevent that."
While there are some approved treatment options, like monoclonal antibody treatments, Tewarson said these were insufficient to prevent the spread of COVID-19. "Yes, they're good," she said. "But they're just a tool."
Different levels of education and racial disparities
To understand why so many healthcare workers choose not to be vaccinated, people need to recognize the different levels of knowledge within the industry, said Benjamin, the official at the American Public Health Association.

"The knowledge base of a physician or a nurse working in the hospital is different to the knowledge base of a nurse's aide, for example, or someone working in a nursing home," he said.
"A lot of our nursing homes are staffed with a larger degree of people who have less professional training. Not that they're not professionals, but they have less professional training than the nurses in the hospitals," he added.
On top of that, people's experience of the virus has been drastically different.
While nursing-home staffers, for example, have seen the virus affect older populations, nurses in intensive-care units are likely to have seen really sick people of all ages dying every day.

A doctor checks the vital signs of a patient at the Intensive Care Unit of Providence Cedars-Sinai Tarzana Medical Center in Tarzana, California on January 3, 2021. Apu Gomes/AFP via Getty Images
Nursing-home employees have some of the lowest vaccination rates among healthcare workers. A CDC analysis of more than 11,000 long-term care facilities found that about 78% of residents got at least one dose in the first month of vaccinations, but only 38% of staffers did.

"I think that people's perspectives on the disease are different," Benjamin added. "And I think their knowledge base, their core basic health knowledge base is very different. So we need to educate people from where they were and bring them all up to a similar level of knowledge about the risks and benefits of the vaccine."
On top of this, the experience of healthcare workers is also shaped by their backgrounds.
Tewarson said that it "gets more complicated when you break everything down. Like Republicans, rural residents, and people of color are all showing more hesitancy across the general population... And that certainly also translates to when you're thinking about healthcare workers."
According to a nationwide poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation and The Undefeated, 7 in 10 African Americans believe that people are treated unfairly based on race or ethnicity when seeking medical care.

Noble, the heart surgeon who has turned down the vaccine for now, said: "We live in a system of inequity, social determinants of health, and in a system of institutional racism that lends itself to not listening to black patients and even providers."
"And the healthcare system doesn't appear and respond appropriately. So with the vaccine, you're going to have a hard time trying to convince the public, let alone healthcare providers that work within the system on a day-to-day basis."
How to tackle vaccine hesitancy?
Health systems, medical facilities, and state officials have tried different ways to encourage more healthcare workers to get vaccinated.
Some employers have announced incentives, including cash bonuses, gift cards, raffle tickets, and even free breakfasts at Waffle House.

Others — especially those in sectors that have been changed radically by the pandemic — have discussed making vaccines mandatory in their workplaces.
Vaccine mandates are not unheard of. According to Johns Hopkins Medicine, 15 states have laws that require healthcare workers to be vaccinated in certain circumstances to keep high-risk patients safe. Most hospitals have made the flu vaccine mandatory.
But mandating the coronavirus vaccine is more complicated, as it's been approved by the FDA for emergency use only, so it is still considered experimental.
Benjamin worries that mandating vaccines could backfire.

"One of the things that I've learned in all my years of practicing health and medicine is that the minute you tell people they have to do something, then people won't do it."
Benjamin said he preferred using the "power of persuasion," putting out "good information" through "trusted messengers."
This is what Butler, the founder of Nurses Who Vaccinate, has done so successfully.
"We're really trying to get ahead of the misinformation. We want people to hear it from us first," Butler said.

"So that's what we're really trying to help our colleagues to be proactive rather than always being defensive," she added.
"When they see their uncle share something on Facebook about the vaccine, they've already heard about it from us, and they're like, 'Oh wait a minute. I know this isn't true.'"
 

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My wife told me of an article that she just read about "Covid Vaccination Tourism".
Apparently droves of Colombians are visiting the US on tourist visas just long enough to get their 2 shots...
 

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My "if we get severe symptoms" immediate "intervention kit"

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My wife told me of an article that she just read about "Covid Vaccination Tourism".
Apparently droves of Colombians are visiting the US on tourist visas just long enough to get their 2 shots...
Too bad they aren’t coming for New Guinea since they’re essentially the Guinea pigs
 

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Too bad they aren’t coming for New Guinea since they’re essentially the Guinea pigs
Don't forget Guinea Bissau and Equatorial Guinea...
 

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Military don't normally have a choice, I'm guessing they can refuse the jab based on it not being approved by the FDA?
From the article:

During a Wednesday hearing, witnesses repeatedly told members of the House Armed Services Committee that as long as the COVID-19 vaccines remained approved for “emergency use,” service members cannot be compelled to receive the shots.

Although more than 900,000 dosages have been administered in the Pentagon, ranking member Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) said, “I’m not sure we can wait two years” for full Food and Drug Administration approval of the vaccines.

About 147,000 service members have received both shots.

This guy's a corpsman:

 

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LOL , This reminds me of the Titanic
Official: 2 People Dressed as "Grannies" to Get COVID Vaccine
By Pete Reinwald Orange County
UPDATED 8:53 PM ET Feb. 18, 2021 PUBLISHED 6:08 PM ET Feb. 18, 2021


ORLANDO, Fla. — A couple of younger Central Florida residents found a creative way to seek COVID-19 vaccinations intended for residents age 65 and over.
What You Need To Know
  • Orange County Health Department official says 2 women dressed up as "grannies"
  • People 65 and older eligible to get COVID-19 vaccine at Health Department sites
  • Pino: There have been a "few" other cases of people misrepresenting themselves

Two younger-looking women “came dressed up as grannies” to the Orange County Convention Center on Wednesday to try to get COVID vaccinations, health official Dr. Raul Pino said Thursday.
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing,” Pino said at an Orange County coronavirus news briefing.
The women were seeking their second coronavirus shots, Pino said.
Pino said he lacked details on how they could have gotten first dosages but said the women carried valid Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards on Wednesday.
But “there were some issues with their IDs and their driver’s licenses,” he said.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Office told Spectrum News in an email late Thursday that personnel from the Florida Department of Health in Orange County asked deputies to “issue trespass warnings to two women who arrived at the (Convention Center) site for Covid vaccinations, with dates of birth that did not match those they had used to register for the vaccines. The names, however, did match the registration.”
The sheriff’s office said it took no other action.
The women were ages 34 and 44, according to dates of birth that the sheriff’s office provided.
The sheriff’s office said it had no other information. “And we don’t have any information about whether they were wearing disguises or how they were dressed,” it said.
Pino, the health official, noted a “very high demand” for the vaccinations in Orange County, as elsewhere, and said “there have been a few” such cases of residents misrepresenting themselves in attempts to get vaccinated.
In another case, Pino said, a man with the same name as his father showed identification that included a different birthday than his father.
“They’re all different and creative,” Pino said of such vaccination attempts. “But we have access to a lot of information, so we can quickly verify who is who.”
He acknowledged that as the county seeks to vaccinate more people at a faster rate — announcing Thursday that officials aim to vaccinate up to 3,000 seniors a day at the Orange County Convention Center — “some people could squeeze in, so (such cases are) probably higher than we suspected.”
 

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From the article:

During a Wednesday hearing, witnesses repeatedly told members of the House Armed Services Committee that as long as the COVID-19 vaccines remained approved for “emergency use,” service members cannot be compelled to receive the shots.

Although more than 900,000 dosages have been administered in the Pentagon, ranking member Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) said, “I’m not sure we can wait two years” for full Food and Drug Administration approval of the vaccines.

About 147,000 service members have received both shots.

This guy's a corpsman:

It can not be required anywhere until FDA approval. I suspect that is not far off :( EXCEPT my worse nightmare is coming true. In Israel a grocery store would only allow people with COVID vaccine papers. To happen here too I suspect after FDA approval
 

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Official: 2 People Dressed as "Grannies" to Get COVID Vaccine
By Pete Reinwald Orange County
UPDATED 8:53 PM ET Feb. 18, 2021 PUBLISHED 6:08 PM ET Feb. 18, 2021


ORLANDO, Fla. — A couple of younger Central Florida residents found a creative way to seek COVID-19 vaccinations intended for residents age 65 and over.
What You Need To Know


    • Orange County Health Department official says 2 women dressed up as "grannies"

    • People 65 and older eligible to get COVID-19 vaccine at Health Department sites

    • Pino: There have been a "few" other cases of people misrepresenting themselves

Two younger-looking women “came dressed up as grannies” to the Orange County Convention Center on Wednesday to try to get COVID vaccinations, health official Dr. Raul Pino said Thursday.
“The bonnets, the gloves, the glasses, the whole thing,” Pino said at an Orange County coronavirus news briefing.
The women were seeking their second coronavirus shots, Pino said.
Pino said he lacked details on how they could have gotten first dosages but said the women carried valid Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccination cards on Wednesday.
But “there were some issues with their IDs and their driver’s licenses,” he said.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Office told Spectrum News in an email late Thursday that personnel from the Florida Department of Health in Orange County asked deputies to “issue trespass warnings to two women who arrived at the (Convention Center) site for Covid vaccinations, with dates of birth that did not match those they had used to register for the vaccines. The names, however, did match the registration.”
The sheriff’s office said it took no other action.
The women were ages 34 and 44, according to dates of birth that the sheriff’s office provided.
The sheriff’s office said it had no other information. “And we don’t have any information about whether they were wearing disguises or how they were dressed,” it said.
Pino, the health official, noted a “very high demand” for the vaccinations in Orange County, as elsewhere, and said “there have been a few” such cases of residents misrepresenting themselves in attempts to get vaccinated.
In another case, Pino said, a man with the same name as his father showed identification that included a different birthday than his father.
“They’re all different and creative,” Pino said of such vaccination attempts. “But we have access to a lot of information, so we can quickly verify who is who.”
He acknowledged that as the county seeks to vaccinate more people at a faster rate — announcing Thursday that officials aim to vaccinate up to 3,000 seniors a day at the Orange County Convention Center — “some people could squeeze in, so (such cases are) probably higher than we suspected.”
Imagine being this stupid
 

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It can not be required anywhere until FDA approval. I suspect that is not far off :( EXCEPT my worse nightmare is coming true. In Israel a grocery store would only allow people with COVID vaccine papers. To happen here too I suspect after FDA approval
There`s a way around that for many people ........ just get a family member or friend to do your grocery shopping for you ........
 

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CVS gives wrong covid dose to patients - ooops

https://www.wral.com/cvs-gives-wrong-covid-19-vaccine-dose-to-patients/19535377/

I ranted in an earlier post about the label and use requirements.

- store at 80 deg below zero, use within two hours
- tumble don’t shake
- dilute
- tumble again but don’t shake


If you shake you mycel (foam) the proteins. If you don’t tumble you might not get homogenous injection (all buffer and no API or too much API

Just doesn’t seem suited for pharmacy distribution, should be doctors office/hospital or specialized distribution centers.