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Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address <span style="margin-left: -5

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Now Max Baucus tells us: the health care overhaul America was just forced to endure was the government’s attempt to fix the “mal-distribution of income.†It’s an admission that sadly comes after the bill has passed and been signed by President Obama. But it’s better late than never.

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While the acknowledgment likely wouldn’t have stopped the legislation because chances are it was common knowledge behind closed doors, at least the admission has now become public. And it proves the point the whole exercise had nothing to do with Americans’ health and more to do with the Marxist concept of “redistributing†wealth.

According to FoxNews.com, Baucus said:

“Too often, much of late, the last couple three years, the mal-distribution of income in American is gone up way too much, the wealthy are getting way, way too wealthy and the middle income class is left behind,†he said. “Wages have not kept up with increased income of the highest income in America. This legislation will have the effect of addressing that mal-distribution of income in America.â€


http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/03/28/better-late-than-never-top-senate-dem-admits-un-american-health-bill-was-to-address-mal-distribution-of-income/
 

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Re: Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address "Mal-Distribution of Inc

Now that thats out in the open, could someone explain to me how this bill actually helps the middle class and poor or hurts the wealthy, how will this bill lower the wealth of the wealthy?
 

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Re: Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address "Mal-Distribution of Inc

Now that thats out in the open, could someone explain to me how this bill actually helps the middle class and poor or hurts the wealthy, how will this bill lower the wealth of the wealthy?
Yeaaah, uh, 0bumhole said it would do so many good things so I'll believe and not question his highness whatsoever.

You should do the same.:sarc:
 

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Re: Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address "Mal-Distribution of Inc

Now that thats out in the open, could someone explain to me how this bill actually helps the middle class and poor or hurts the wealthy, how will this bill lower the wealth of the wealthy?

The first hit does target high income: individuals making over $200,000/year, and couples over $250,000 will be paying (right away) the actual direct tax increases. Increased SS tax on income, plus SS tax on capital gains, dividends, and bank interest. The next hit comes to everyone who currently pays health insurance premiums, which includes most of what we consider Middle Class. These premiums are sure to rise, starting with your next annual renewal.

It certainly helps "the poor", like the other zillion programs in place to help the poor. America: It Pays to be Poor
 

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Re: Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address "Mal-Distribution of Inc

The first hit does target high income: individuals making over $200,000/year, and couples over $250,000 will be paying (right away) the actual direct tax increases. Increased SS tax on income, plus SS tax on capital gains, dividends, and bank interest. The next hit comes to everyone who currently pays health insurance premiums, which includes most of what we consider Middle Class. These premiums are sure to rise, starting with your next annual renewal.

It certainly helps "the poor", like the other zillion programs in place to help the poor. America: It Pays to be Poor


Well, being poor and having passed up HC coverage because i could not afford it AND food, i don't see this as being a help to me. I am inclined to believe this will make it too costly for me to remain working. The wealthy will simply pass the cost onto consummers, which means the poor and the middle class get the shaft again.
 

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so does this mean they'll undo the banker bailout? after all, it's only fair.
 

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so does this mean they'll undo the banker bailout? after all, it's only fair.

Undo it? They're getting ready to do it again, actually I don't think they've stopped!

They know exactly what they're doing... Health Scare, Carbon Taxes etc. They pass these laws knowing full well where the money is really going to come from. How long can this truly last? The US is the biggest "tinder box" in history, just waiting for that one spark.
 

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Re: Top Senate Dem Admits Un-American Health Bill to Address <span style="margin-left

OK, ONE MORE TIME - If you were NOT paying attention, OBAMA presented ALL of this in the ONLY piece of legislation HE sponsored as a US Senator.

This article is particularly telling now that it's almost THREE YEARS since it was written. Note at the time it was written, Obama was 'just a senator' and not being thought of as anything else.

AND YET we have Joe Biden doing his bidding in a hurry...

History sure looks funny from here, doesn't it?

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Obama’s Global Tax Proposal Up for Senate Vote

Cliff Kincaid

A nice-sounding bill called the Global Poverty Act, sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations.

Senator Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has not endorsed either Senator Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton in the presidential race. But on Thursday, February 14, he is trying to rush Obama’s Global Poverty Act (SB 2433) through his committee. The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.

The bill, which is item number four on the committee’s business meeting agenda, passed the House by a voice vote last year because most members didn’t realize what was in it. Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require. According to the website of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, no hearings have been held on the Obama bill in that body.

A release from the Obama Senate office about the bill declares, in 2000, the U.S. joined more than 180 countries at the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. We are halfway towards this deadline, and it is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day.

The legislation itself requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

The bill defines the term Millennium Development Goals as the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).

The U.N. says that the commitment to provide 0.7% of gross national product (GNP) as official development assistance was first made 35 years ago in a General Assembly resolution, but it has been reaffirmed repeatedly over the years, including at the 2002 global Financing for Development conference in Monterrey, Mexico. However, in 2004, total aid from the industrialized countries totaled just $78.6 billion or about 0.25% of their collective GNP.

In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning small arms and light weapons and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.

Jeffrey Sachs, who runs the U.N.’s Millennium Project, says that the U.N. plan to force the U.S. to pay 0.7 percent of GNP in increased foreign aid spending would add $65 billion a year to what the U.S. already spends. Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.’s Financing for Development conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S. is expected to meet the Millennium Development Goals, this amounts to $845 billion. And the only way to raise that kind of money, Sachs has written, is through a global tax, preferably on carbon-emitting fossil fuels.

Obama’s bill has only six co-sponsors. They are Senators Maria Cantwell, Dianne Feinstein, Richard Lugar, Richard Durbin, Chuck Hagel and Robert Menendez. But it appears that Biden and Obama see passage of this bill as a way to highlight Democratic Party priorities in the Senate.

The House version (H.R. 1302), sponsored by Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), had only 84 co-sponsors before it was suddenly brought up on the House floor last September 25 and was passed by voice vote. House Republicans were caught off-guard, unaware that the pro-U.N. measure committed the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars.

It appears the Senate version is being pushed not only by Biden and Obama, a member of the committee, but Lugar, the ranking Republican member. Lugar has worked with Obama in the past to promote more foreign aid for Russia, supposedly to stem nuclear proliferation, and has become Obama’s mentor. Like Biden, Lugar is a globalist. They have both promoted passage of the U.N.’s Law of the Sea Treaty, for example.

The so-called Lugar-Obama initiative was modeled after the Nunn-Lugar program, also known as the Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) program, which was designed to eliminate weapons of mass destruction in the former Soviet Union. But one defense analyst, Rich Kelly, noted evidence that CTR funds have eased the Russian military’s budgetary woes, freeing resources for such initiatives as the war in Chechnya and defense modernization. He recommended that Congress eliminate CTR funding so that it does not finance additional, perhaps more threatening, programs in the former Soviet Union. However, over $6 billion has already been spent on the program.

Another program modeled on Nunn-Lugar, the Initiatives for Proliferation Prevention (IPP), was recently exposed as having funded nuclear projects in Iran through Russia.

More foreign aid through passage of the Global Poverty Act was identified as one of the strategic goals of InterAction, the alliance of U.S-based international non-governmental organizations that lobbies for more foreign aid. The group is heavily financed by the U.S. Government, having received $1.4 million from taxpayers in fiscal year 2005 and $1.7 million in 2006. However, InterAction recently issued a report accusing the United States of falling short on its commitment to rid the world of dire poverty by 2015 under the U.N. Millennium Development Goals?

It’s not clear what President Bush would do if the bill passes the Senate. The bill itself quotes Bush as declaring that we fight against poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to human dignity. Bush’s former top aide, Michael J. Gerson, writes in his new book, Heroic Conservatism, that Bush should be remembered as the President who sponsored the largest percentage increases in foreign assistance since the Marshall Plan?

Even these increases, however, will not be enough to satisfy the requirements of the Obama bill. A global tax will clearly be necessary to force American taxpayers to provide the money.

Americans who would like their senators to know what they are voting on can contact them through information at this official Senate site