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TRUMP RELEASES HIS PLAN FOR 2ND AMENDMENT… LEAVES MILLIONS FURIOUS

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TRUMP RELEASES HIS PLAN FOR 2ND AMENDMENT… LEAVES MILLIONS FURIOUS
MARCH 8, 2016

One common criticism of billionaire businessman and presidential candidate Donald Trump is that he far too often speaks in vague generalities and rarely offers specifics about where he stands on the issues.

That is no longer the case, at least regarding his stance on gun rights and the Second Amendment, as Trump just released his official policy position on his campaign website.

“The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period,” the position paper began.

Trump went on to explain that the right to keep and bear arms is a right that pre-exists both the government and the Constitution, noting that government didn’t create the right, nor can it take it away.

He also rightly denoted the Second Amendment as “America’s first freedom,” pointing out that it helps protect all of the other rights we hold dear.

In order to protect and defend that right, Trump proposed tougher enforcement of laws that are already on the books, rather than adding new gun control laws.

Citing a successful program in Richmond, Virginia, that sentenced gun criminals to mandatory minimum five-year sentences in federal prison, Trump noted that crime rates will fall dramatically when criminals are taken off the streets for lengthy periods of time.

Trump also proposed strengthening and expanding laws allowing law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves from criminals using their own guns, without fear of repercussion from the government.

Noting that many of the recent high-profile shooters had clear mental problems that should have been addressed, Trump proposed fixing our nation’s broken mental health system by increasing treatment opportunities for the non-violent mentally ill, but removing from the streets those people who pose a danger to themselves and others.

Trump would do away with pointless and ineffective gun and magazine bans and suggested fixing the current background check system already in place, rather than expanding a broken system.

Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, exactly as drivers licenses from anywhere are accepted by all states today.

Finally, Trump would lift the prohibition on military members carrying weapons on military bases and in recruiting centers, allowing trained military members to carry weapons to protect themselves from attacks by terrorists, criminals and the mentally unstable, as we have seen recently.

This is great, and those who cherish our right to keep and bear arms should be pleased by Trump’s stated position on the Second Amendment.

Of course, liberal anti-gunners will hate this, but their opinion on the matter is of little concern to us “people of the gun,” of which Donald Trump is apparently one.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter to help spread Donald Trump’s official policy position on the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms.

http://conservativetribune.com/trump-plan-2nd-amendment/
 

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The Golden Buck will Stop Here in 2017.

Or in this case, the sulfar, saltpeter and charcoal buck will stop here.
 

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So if you don't follow an unconstitutional law then he wants tougher sentences, 5 years + ??? (Shaking my head)
 

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Internet rumor has it, that approx. 37% of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun.
Well if most gun owners are like us here at GIM2, that means almost 75 % of Americans say they or someone in their household owns a gun.
Looks like a landslide in Nov.

Now, is this true &/or will he be able to carry it out before he is JFK'ed ?
 

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Trump should fully legalize pot except to minors and he will win most of the white people and half the monkeys.
 

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Legalizing drugs would get him capped by those who profit from them being illegal. There'd be a flammin' line up at the the local thug hiring centre.

I wonder when was the last time a sitting president carried a personal firearm on them.
 

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Holy shit, I might get off my ass and vote for trump just for this.

What's his stance on cannabis?
Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump is hedging his position on marijuana legalization, but is “a hundred percent” in favor of medical marijuana. Nonetheless, Trump’s stated position on legalization is evolving, because he has acknowledged that “in some ways” legalization “is good.”

http://www.hightimes.com/read/pot-matters-trump-marijuana
 

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TRUMP RELEASES HIS PLAN FOR 2ND AMENDMENT… LEAVES MILLIONS FURIOUS
MARCH 8, 2016

One common criticism of billionaire businessman and presidential candidate Donald Trump is that he far too often speaks in vague generalities and rarely offers specifics about where he stands on the issues.

That is no longer the case, at least regarding his stance on gun rights and the Second Amendment, as Trump just released his official policy position on his campaign website.

“The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period,” the position paper began.

Trump went on to explain that the right to keep and bear arms is a right that pre-exists both the government and the Constitution, noting that government didn’t create the right, nor can it take it away.

He also rightly denoted the Second Amendment as “America’s first freedom,” pointing out that it helps protect all of the other rights we hold dear.

In order to protect and defend that right, Trump proposed tougher enforcement of laws that are already on the books, rather than adding new gun control laws.

Citing a successful program in Richmond, Virginia, that sentenced gun criminals to mandatory minimum five-year sentences in federal prison, Trump noted that crime rates will fall dramatically when criminals are taken off the streets for lengthy periods of time.

Trump also proposed strengthening and expanding laws allowing law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves from criminals using their own guns, without fear of repercussion from the government.

Noting that many of the recent high-profile shooters had clear mental problems that should have been addressed, Trump proposed fixing our nation’s broken mental health system by increasing treatment opportunities for the non-violent mentally ill, but removing from the streets those people who pose a danger to themselves and others.

Trump would do away with pointless and ineffective gun and magazine bans and suggested fixing the current background check system already in place, rather than expanding a broken system.

Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, exactly as drivers licenses from anywhere are accepted by all states today.

Finally, Trump would lift the prohibition on military members carrying weapons on military bases and in recruiting centers, allowing trained military members to carry weapons to protect themselves from attacks by terrorists, criminals and the mentally unstable, as we have seen recently.

This is great, and those who cherish our right to keep and bear arms should be pleased by Trump’s stated position on the Second Amendment.

Of course, liberal anti-gunners will hate this, but their opinion on the matter is of little concern to us “people of the gun,” of which Donald Trump is apparently one.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter to help spread Donald Trump’s official policy position on the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms.

http://conservativetribune.com/trump-plan-2nd-amendment/
Anti-gun libetards don't like the Constitution?
SCREW EM!!!

GO TRUMP!
 

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Holy shit, I might get off my ass and vote for trump just for this.

What's his stance on cannabis?
Early on he said he'd leave that up to the states.
 

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I'm pro 2nd Amendment but the Trumpsters insistence that military men and women be able to walk around base with their smoke wagons on their hip like it's the wild wild west is not a smart move in my opinion.

He's looking at it from the point of view of someone that hasn't really served.

We'd all like to think it's Band of Brothers/American Sniper around our military installations but in reality it's more like Stripes ...except your not getting laid by two hot female MP's as they'll both be lesbians and your platoon sergeant Sgt Hulka is undergoing hormone therapy for his upcoming sex change operation.

There's alot of unstable big Pharma guinea pigs walking around your average military base and having private lumphead armed up in the barracks at 2am on a friday night playing Russian roulette isnt gojng to make anybody any safer ....would only lead to some serious incidents IMO.

I can see the recruiting stations being armed cause your dealing with NCO's and SNCO's who have 10 or 15 years of service in and are pretty much guaranteed to be crazy free.
 

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Trump went on to explain that the right to keep and bear arms is a right that pre-exists both the government and the Constitution, noting that government didn’t create the right, nor can it take it away.
Absolutely correct!!

The Second Amendment does not give us any rights to bear arms. That right was established before the Constitution!

The intended function of the Second Amendment was to prohibit Congress from passing any laws which may infringe on that right.

It's heart-warming to know that Trump understands this.

I feel all warm and fuzzy inside now. :D

but maybe thats the alcohol.
 

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If Trump understood then why does he support people getting 5+ year sentences for breaking laws that are unconstitutional in the first place?

He is just saying what people want to hear. (no different than any other politician)
 

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He is just saying what people want to hear. (no different than any other politician)
Of course he is, he is running as a republican. I am not sure how anyone could believe anything he says. Maybe it is just me but he doesn't seem like a very credible person. The fact that he openly admits to bribing politicians doesn't help. Giving bribes are just as shady and taking them.
 

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Bribes are another part of the economy and business.
Its the way the world goes around.
Its just like bankruptcy.
Its just like illegal workers.
It just is.
Everybody is shady. Its just degree.
Only dif between here and another country is the degree of which it happens.
To think that ANY president, congress, house, federal, state, county, city etc can eliminate these basic functions of the system is anti productive.
Figuring out ways to control it or harness the energy causing it, thats another. JMHO
Regards to all.
 

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Is there any country where government is not financed by taking people's property or income by force, for the purported purpose of giving them what others have decided they must all have?

Is it realistic to expect such systems to be managed in an honest manner? IOW, is there an honest way to manage dishonestly acquired money? And, btw, does the end justify the means?

Principles, pesky principles.
 

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Alric said,
"Of course he is, he is running as a republican. I am not sure how anyone could believe anything he says"

Can you realistically believe everything any politician says ?
We're talking about the "land of anything is possible" here.
 
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Bribes are another part of the economy and business.
Its the way the world goes around.
Its just like bankruptcy.
Its just like illegal workers.
It just is.
Everybody is shady. Its just degree.
Only dif between here and another country is the degree of which it happens.
To think that ANY president, congress, house, federal, state, county, city etc can eliminate these basic functions of the system is anti productive.
Figuring out ways to control it or harness the energy causing it, thats another. JMHO
Regards to all.
I like how people try to say he has no political experience. To build casinos and skyscrapers in multiple cities in the US he has had to wade into the most vile corruption our country has and still get his projects done. And get them done he has.
To me that means he has seen and beaten the corruption from the same direction you and I have to, as the recipient. 100% different than the thugs at the top getting paid.
 

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Darn straight.
X 1000.
He has actually BUILT something.
Not just TALKED about building it.
In some incredibly difficult jurisdictions.
AND
Hes actually wanted to do it as a profit making enterprise.
Total dif mindset.
Totally.
This country is just a big business anyways.
Hard is it for people to see ???
Ohh....I forgot. ..a whole generation of easy credit and free shite coolaide drinking.
Good stuff all of this I tell ya....good stuff...
 

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Hey I,
In early 2000s, we got this telecom job in Miami.
So we go into permit office...COMiami....
Sign in, take a number and wait....
And wait, and wait , and wait.
We were 2nd language there.
Guy sits next to me....looks like Don Johnsons brother.
EXACT Miami Vice copy...no socks, leather loafers, jacket, hair gell,
So...we wait, we wait...but this cat....he gets his number called like 5 times....goes up, all the people know him,
the counter women, all dressed in tube socks, all know him...speaking Spanish....like old home week.
Finally guy says to me " allow me to give you my card "...
It says " permit expediter "....
I started looking around....him and a coupla others....hot women....thats all they did.
We did not get the permit that day....or for some time.
And this was not for a 75 story building in Manhattan, or LA or Vegas.
I never will forget that.
The system....ya gotta know how to grease it.
Talk later,
 

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Of course he is, he is running as a republican. I am not sure how anyone could believe anything he says. Maybe it is just me but he doesn't seem like a very credible person. The fact that he openly admits to bribing politicians doesn't help. Giving bribes are just as shady and taking them.
Well bless your heart.
 

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Bribes are another part of the economy and business.
Its the way the world goes around.
Its just like bankruptcy.
Its just like illegal workers.
It just is.
Everybody is shady. Its just degree.
Only dif between here and another country is the degree of which it happens.
To think that ANY president, congress, house, federal, state, county, city etc can eliminate these basic functions of the system is anti productive.
Figuring out ways to control it or harness the energy causing it, thats another. JMHO
Regards to all.
That kind of thinking leads to all the bullshit we have in politics. Even if true we should at least be trying to hold people to a higher standard and not just saying, "Screw it, bribe whoever you want I don't care. I vote for you anyway."

Can you realistically believe everything any politician says ?
We're talking about the "land of anything is possible" here.
No, but some people are at least a bit more credible than others. For example, Ron Paul said he wants to audit the federal reserve while he was running. I am fairly confident that he was being honest, since he tried to pass that bill several times while in congress and had a record for bashing them. He wasn't just saying it for votes.

Bernie says he wants free college for everyone. I am skeptical that he could do that, since he would need congress to do it. So it might just be a campaign promise but I think he is honest in the sense that he will actually try to do it.

Trump however, I am not sure what he is going to do on anything. He says he wants to build a wall to keep immigrants out, and I don't even believe him on that. He says he is going to have Mexico pay for it, and I am more skeptical of that than of Bernie giving everyone free college.
 

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Jeez clair. Congress has no Constitutional authority to dispense "free" college anyway. It makes no difference if they and the supreme maggots rubber stamp whatever nonsense falls out of comrade Sanders' mouth or not. I know, I know...but but the general welfare clause!

To the topic at hand. I like this kind of talk from Trump and hope he's sincere. Go pound sand gun grabbers.
 

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No, but some people are at least a bit more credible than others. For example, Ron Paul said he wants to audit the federal reserve while he was running. I am fairly confident that he was being honest, since he tried to pass that bill several times while in congress and had a record for bashing them. He wasn't just saying it for votes.
Bernie says he wants free college for everyone. I am skeptical that he could do that, since he would need congress to do it. So it might just be a campaign promise but I think he is honest in the sense that he will actually try to do it.
Trump however, I am not sure what he is going to do on anything. He says he wants to build a wall to keep immigrants out, and I don't even believe him on that. He says he is going to have Mexico pay for it, and I am more skeptical of that than of Bernie giving everyone free college.
Ah, the old political pick and choose. We see your true colors now.
Actually I was just being a little tongue-and-cheek previously.
 

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Who is this clair?

I don't believe I have them on ignore but I don't see any posts by that person.
 

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Who is this clair?

I don't believe I have them on ignore but I don't see any posts by that person.
Clair would be Alric....it's the pet name we have for that government brownshirt socialist piece of shit that keeps posting useless drivel here (am I being too candid?)
 

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Alric,
Thats the point, mine anyway,
Its ALL bullshit, ALL of it now,
Its cooked, done, toast.
Its just to what level and degree.
Politics ?!?!? WTF is it actually ?
Not being adversarial. But what is it other than a sort of grifting ?
I m missing the part where
that so called " profession " that being in office has evolved into actually benefits anyone but other office holders and their BFFs.
As a business the US of A has failed.
Politicians cannot and will not save it.
JMHO of course which is worth nothing really,
Talk a little later,
 

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You get a like simply for your avatar!:2 thumbs up:
 

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Thanks :)
Thats another version of the tasmanian devil.
The kid who married the step kid found him running down the median, brought him over.
French and English bulldog cross we figure.
He was about 6 months old, some total asshats cut his ears so short its so embarrassing I try and explain that when introducing him 1st thing.
Vet said dont even try and look for the owners...they aint right.
Anyways, maybe he should go into politics. ..oooops...sorry to the OP for the OT tangent.
Regards,
 

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... Maybe it is just me but he doesn't seem like a very credible person. The fact that he openly admits to bribing politicians doesn't help...
Wait,, wha... Huh?

If a candidate openly admits to donations to politicians for favors, that displays a tremendous amount of credibility, IMO. Trump is smart enough to know that everything (political deals) has a price. And he's honest enough to admit it. Would Hitlery admit to all the nefarious deals that the Clinton Foundation has been involved with? My guess is no. She is the poster-child of credibility issues.

Maybe instead of lambasting Trump, we should be looking at the hacks that took his money for the favors they could offer because of their political status.
 

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Wait,, wha... Huh?

If a candidate openly admits to donations to politicians for favors, that displays a tremendous amount of credibility, IMO. Trump is smart enough to know that everything (political deals) has a price. And he's honest enough to admit it. Would Hitlery admit to all the nefarious deals that the Clinton Foundation has been involved with? My guess is no. She is the poster-child of credibility issues.

Maybe instead of lambasting Trump, we should be looking at the hacks that took his money for the favors they could offer because of their political status.
skychief, that is one helluva great reply. :beer: If those beggars weren't standing with their collective hands out, people could get things done a whole lot faster & cheaper. They are lower than the beggars at the freeway on/off ramps.
 

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Wait,, wha... Huh?

If a candidate openly admits to donations to politicians for favors, that displays a tremendous amount of credibility, IMO. Trump is smart enough to know that everything (political deals) has a price. And he's honest enough to admit it. Would Hitlery admit to all the nefarious deals that the Clinton Foundation has been involved with? My guess is no. She is the poster-child of credibility issues.

Maybe instead of lambasting Trump, we should be looking at the hacks that took his money for the favors they could offer because of their political status.
That doesn't say he is honest so much as he doesn't think anyone cares. Which apparently you don't care if people bribe politicians as long as they admit it. Though for me, no, I don't want people bribing politicians. That isn't how our government should works, and taking the attitude that we all just have to start bribing people to get things done is a really shitty attitude to have.

Maybe you want to accept bribes as just normal, but I am not going to. One of the major reasons for corruption is government is from bribes. Bribes are not cool. I am not giving him a free pass on that.
 

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Absolutely 100% missed the point in a cartoonish manner. But you did that on purpose.

Maybe instead of lambasting Trump, we should be looking at the hacks that took his money for the favors they could offer because of their political status.

Like your hero hitlery, Trump bought her and her husband. They are no different than a third world border guard paid $20 American to look the other way. When politicians offer themselves for sale you would be stupid not to buy yourself a few.
 

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True, but once again this thread illustrates perfectly for all to see why stupid pidgeons shouldn't play chess.