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I don't even have a TV to know whats going on in the MSM right now. I'd be surprised if he makes it through this first term.

Whatever his 3d strategy was has certainly not materialized. Whatever the"Plan" was, it failed. Q was a fraud and this was all just theater for the masses so we wouldn't revolt.

Be realistic and think about all this just for a minute.

Before and during the election, we have confessions on tape of DNC colluding to snuff out Bernie, rig elections, illegal voter fraud, the Clinton foundation, Haiti being robbed by the Clintons, Pay for play, uranium 1, Brazil being fired from the network for giving Hillary questions prior to the debates, Holders gunrunning into Mexico, Lerner weaponizing the IRS, DOJ paying leftist groups with settlement money and thats just whats known for sure and has made headlines.

To date not one investigation by the Trump organization and after 18 months evidence will be scarce as it was surely systematically destroyed in the Clinton house fire and redo island also went up in flames. No one is arrested or investigated for any of this. 1 FBI agent fired though and a few walked away. Thats the best that trump can do.

Then we have the left going through everyone close to Trump with a fine tooth comb and getting convictions.

We are told to wait, trust the plan. We have to have all the ducks in a row.. Sorry but if Mueller can get all his ducks in a row in 19 months and get convictions than so can Sessions. Sadly Sessions is on his high school whirlwind tour where even the students realize the corruption on the left but nothing is done. 19 months was plenty of time to get things done. 100's of arrests should have been made by now. 60 billion spent by DOJ and FBI but not one investigation into the left?

Even after todays verdicts he is out there trying to defend this guy. Makes him lose even more credibility. Better to come out and say the guy made mistakes or he f ed up and own it. Move on and put it behind him.

Meanwhile Trumps base sits by waiting for the swamp to be drained, It's not happening. The only draining is of Trumps team. The last time Trump drained anything was probably with Stormy Daniels. Other than a few hard core supporters Trumps base is going down quick.. Thats not to say they are turning left. More than likely they may shoot for green party or libertarian, anything other than the socialist left.

All that being said. I voted for the guy and I like him still but he's way over his head in DC. He's a smart guy but if you think he is taking on the worlds problems and creating this Q narrative in his off hours, I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. The fact is the left is to firmly entrenched in DC, The MIC has to much power along with the fed and at some point Trump got introduced to his owners. There's just no other explanation as to why there are no investigations into anyone on the left.

There's way to much evidence out there for there not to have been any investigations. I don't believe for a minute that there are some secret investigations going on. Trump himself has stated that Hillary is not under investigation. My guess is he and Bill probably made a trip to pedo island together at some point and they have photos. At the very least they have something on him.

Remember winers compter? Whatever happened to that once it was turned over to the FBI? 19 months and nothing?
Why did he hire an AG that recuses himself on day 1?

The only way to drain the swamp is to elect men and women of strong moral character. As much as I like Trump and all he has accomplished in his life, there has to be a few skeletons in that closet for him to not move forward on the swamp draining.

This is all just my opinion of course. There's still 29 months to prove me wrong.
I promised to keep my negativity out of the Q thread so this will be my thread for myself and others to vent.
 

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is a primo example of negative waves!
Ciggy,
Take a breath and calm down. Haven't you learned anything in the last 2 years? Nothing is as it seems. I wouldn't go grabbing a necktie and hanging myself from the bedroom doorknob just yet. There's 'frustrated' then there 'panicky'. You are definitely displaying signs of the latter.

Take some warm cocoa and go hit the sack brother. Tomorrow will be a better day.
 

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is a primo example of negative waves!
Ciggy,
Take a breath and calm down. Haven't you learned anything in the last 2 years? Nothing is as it seems. I wouldn't go grabbing a necktie and hanging myself from the bedroom doorknob just yet. There's 'frustrated' then there 'panicky'. You are definitely displaying signs of the latter.

Take some warm cocoa and go hit the sack brother. Tomorrow will be a better day.
No panic brother, just disappointment. At some point you have to face the facts. With overwhelming evidence against the left, people on the right are going to jail. We can call it a witch hunt, we can call it fake news but the facts are the facts. No one on the left is being investigated.
 

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Cohen copping a plea will not bring down Trump - paying off whores to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements is not a campaign contribution - it's what billionaire playboys do. All this was known about Trump. Manafort is also not related to Trump, his convictions were on dealings from 2006.
 
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This will pee in a few peoples Wheaties but then again the truth always does.

The day after this "Q" popped up I called it. (Look through my past posts) I worked for the campaign, and voted for him. (did you expect I'd vote Hillary?)

The "Q" play is old hat to some folks who know distraction techniques, and the masses fell for it. The opposition then knew they had defeated Trump so they just kept pilling on more "Stormy" stuff to keep him on the defensive.

He hasn't done a thing for america, for that matter the middle class is worse off now with these stupid sanctions and tariffs he has imposed. They will stay home in 2020 and the Demwits will again be in charge, doing what the ZWO wants just like Trump is doing now.
 

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Cohen copping a plea will not bring down Trump - paying off whores to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreements is not a campaign contribution - it's what billionaire playboys do. All this was known about Trump. Manafort is also not related to Trump, his convictions were on dealings from 2006.
No these things wont bring down Trump. Whats bringing him down is the lack of swamp draining while the left persecutes the right on a daily basis. There is no fighting back at all.

The Q server was set up in 1996 while the Clintons were in office. Now we are told by some anonymous letter on some anonymous board to trust the plan? For all we know its bill clinton sitting in his presidential library typing away on the keyboard.. He knows full well all the evidence so it would be easy for him to make all this stuff up.
But whatever, the fact is the Q server gets 50k hits d ay. Probably by les than 25k people. Millions are on the right waiting for something, anything to happen and all we get on a daily basis is the left throwing shit in our faces and pointing out how they are right about everything. Hard to argue with them when those of us on the right look like a bunch of conspiracy theorists waiting on some anonymous letter to save the day. Sessions sure as shit isn't doing anything since he's recused. Sessions needs to go, Trump already knows this and has hinted as much but for some reason when it comes to swamp draining he is dead silent.
 

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No these things wont bring down Trump. Whats bringing him down is the lack of swamp draining while the left persecutes the right on a daily basis. There is no fighting back at all.
The whole conspiracy to prevent a Trump Presidency by FBI/DOJ/CIA/DNC,etc. and then the attempt to overthrow him using thug tactics and lies has been exposed and will continue to be exposed - it is far from over, but, a criminal conspiracy at this level is not going away.

Sessions sure as shit isn't doing anything since he's recused. Sessions needs to go, Trump already knows this and has hinted as much but for some reason when it comes to swamp draining he is dead silent.
I know nothing of Q - don't read it. But Session will go soon - he won't see 2019.
 

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What has been thrown at DJT and actually stuck? Sounds like so many people are caught in the negativeness being peddled. I look at it this way, there are so many things the brash and usually exciting things that DJT has brought into light. No other candidate dared roil the waters because they were all in on the game. Who isn't the 45th POTUS? Complain about tariffs all you like but don't complain about SHAFTA, TPP, Climate Accords and not being in a war with Russia if tariffs bother you.

It's not Donald John Trump all by himself, is it?
 

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just need a stock market crash in Sept/Oct to facilitate a Democratic sweep of Congress and hey presto: impeachment proceedings begin cool:
That could be in the works too. Deep State has fought Trump from before he started running, through the 'Loyalty Pledge' by the GOP, right on through the election and 6 months into it.

Yet he's the one being investigated...?

Kind of funny. Not even a cigar between them...

Brennan - Wasn't that for things he did before being injected into the Trump campaign?

As for the lawyer making a plea deal...MSM is sure blathering about the connection to Trump.

Paying off someone for silence? That's not illegal unless it was from campaign funds - but if you were Trump, would you use your own money or campaign funds? He's not stupid.


Say negative things about him, but Hillary NEVER had this kind of support. This happens in every rally he does. I bet he'll win again, handily.


Just watch:

 

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The corruption in DC is the biggest problem facing this country. All politicians bought and paid for, all heads of major alphabet agencies as well as dept edu, era, fad and anyone else that has influence, all bought and paid for by the corporations.

Trump knows all of this, he knew what he was in for and he needed to bring in a team to completely revamp everything from the top down.. And he brought in Sessions who looked like a bumbling idiot in front of HS students.
As I pointed out, he has over 100k people at his disposal in DOJ and FBI alone. In the 19 months we could have put together a team of 5-7 here at GIM and had cases against Hillary and Lerner and Holder by now.
If he put his own people in to head DOJ and FBI they could have cleaned house by now. It would have been easy to install department heads loyal to Trump and easy to see who is on the team under them and who isn't.
I know its hard to fire them but they could be sent on special assignment up to Alaska or something or someone could change policy and make it easier to get rid of them. There is no accountability and still isn't. 1 firing of an FBI agent isn't draining the swamp.

I think we have all known for a long time, at least since Obama and probably even before that, that something was very wrong in this country and the way things were handled after 9/11. Things got worse under Obama and there was a hard turn to the left with him on top.
Anything Trump is doing now will be undone as soon as he's gone unless he gets rid of the whole lot of them and exposes the corruption and throws them all in prison. Public hangings would also be acceptable.
 

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I voted for the guy and I like him still but he's way over his head in DC.
Who wouldn't be? Although imho he's better equipped to deal with it all. At least for a non-DC politician anyways.

just need a stock market crash in Sept/Oct to facilitate a Democratic sweep of Congress
Is that an "on the record" prediction?


The corruption in DC is the biggest problem facing this country. All politicians bought and paid for, all heads of major alphabet agencies as well as dept edu, era, fad and anyone else that has influence, all bought and paid for by the corporations.
All this has been building for at least 100+ years, and he's supposed to go in and have it all fixed in 19 Months?

As I pointed out, he has over 100k people at his disposal in DOJ and FBI alone.
Yea, but 2/3rds of them will be doing everything they can to thwart his efforts.

It would have been easy
Nothing in DC is easy if it goes against the flow of things.

Things got worse under Obama and there was a hard turn to the left with him on top.
It just became more apparent. It's been headed that way for a very long time now.


Trump is just one man. To expect one guy to have all the answers and be able to impliment them successfully in a short time is fairy tale thinkin' IMHO.

The only thing Trump was supposed to do, was to keep the hag out. Anything else good that comes from it is called getting a bonus.

C'mon guys, we've seen what's been going on for years now, and we are seeing that Trump has the status quo of politics in this country all f'ed up and puking all over themselves and each other. That alone is a good thing.
...and the only other option was the hag. So I for one am more than willing to see what he can do with his time in office. I'd much prefer seeing him go golfing everyday than to even imagine seeing the hag in office for one day.


Any day in America that the hag ain't in charge, is a better day than it could have been.
 

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is a primo example of negative waves!
We used to call them 'gut calls'

way back in the olden days

and people respected them, generally speaking, of course
they were never calls of 'negativity', only of 'survival', at the lowest possible cost
and that usually involved barter

but, all the brothers here are correct
even the ones who call us all pussies, for not fighting
we should be, but we aren't because intellect is much better than knee-jerk

i'm one to talk
i got it, but
I was taught that fighting crime was like fighting a fire, pour some water on it and it's out but, our Constitution has been raped so hard, justice isn't

it's just not

gl to all

We, as in people on this forum have known this but most of the population has been clueless. What I fear the most is, who comes along after Trump's terms are completed.
The Boogeyman?

seriously, is there anyone in the wings?
Pence?

all i hope for is:
we'd better be going that way
or else

it will be;
not
 

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Lefty lawyer Alan Dershowitz was on Friar Tucker's TV show tonight.

Dersh says campaign finance law violations are like jaywalking tickets. Everybody is guilty.

Donnie Trumpster will have to do some tap-dancing to avoid or answer to the Fake News Media, but he'll survive and then thrive.

JMHO
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just need a stock market crash in Sept/Oct to facilitate a Democratic sweep of Congress and hey presto: impeachment proceedings begin cool:
Andrew Jackson faced the same fate. he got out in front - telling the people exactly what the nyc pigmen were going to do, before they did it.

pigmen did it and Jackson emerged victorious.

trump needs to do same.
 

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Andrew Jackson faced the same fate. he got out in front - telling the people exactly what the nyc pigmen were going to do, before they did it.

pigmen did it and Jackson emerged victorious.

trump needs to do same.
Agreed!
There needs to be more 'voice' from this administration
some syncopated diatribe that resonates, something to 'round up the troops'
not too dramatic or emotional but with all the bytes of info available, it couldn't cost too much to place strategic ads around the globe, hell, Obama did it from our tax money but the ads would not have to be about "diatribe"

The ads could be about the 'truth'

Let's say:
An Apology Tour
One about the abscess that was Hillary, the Clintons in toto, and Obama, and McCain, and how 'we're sorry we unleashed them onto the world but no more. We have taken care of the problems and are offering our hand in Peace, this will never happen again' etc, take our lumps, grow our character and move on

sorta like messages, directed at the elite, and anyone else who opposes the Constitution

PSA's if you will

Messages Of Peace
 

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I don't care. The Hall is rented. The Maestro engaged.

It's time to tango!
 

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Andrew Jackson faced the same fate. he got out in front - telling the people exactly what the nyc pigmen were going to do, before they did it.

pigmen did it and Jackson emerged victorious.

trump needs to do same.
Best post of the day!
 

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You know, I've watched this Q thing from the time it showed up here at GIM II. I've read every post and watched each video and "the plan" has become quite evident. Trump will, according to the plan, "unleash the hounds" just before the midterm elections. To begin to make the largest dent in the opposition possible it is necessary to do it this way. Trump and his team must remain tight-lipped about what is actually going on. He MUST keep up the appearance of being weak, irrational, nonchalant, provide numerous distractions and diversions to his enemies that at least appear quite plausible to keep them off the track of the real plan. Ok. I get that. It would appear that Team Trump has done that and done such a fine job of it that even his one-time supporters are baffled, perplexed, disappointed and discouraged at this point.

However, things ARE happening. Brennan's butthurt is just so funny I still chuckle when I think about it. Pulling his clearance was just like pulling the rug out from under him and his plans to be the criminals knight on a white horse. Comey is still trying to appear as the victim and where the hell is the "Help! I've lost and I can't shut up!" bitch? Where's her girlfriend? Personally I think they know that they are up to their chins in deep shit and sinking. These are "the bitter enders". They passed panic months ago and are long down the trail desperation heading toward desolation. If they fail to commit suicide they will be like McStain and feign dire illness to buy time to concoct deceitful plans with their lawyers and stall, stall, stall for years. This is ALWAYS their backup plan. Remember Whitewater? Ken Starr? Yeah, they've been to this rodeo before. Yet their former minions and accomplices are spilling the beans. Their many supporters on the left and the right are abandoning them as they step back but still can't look away as they watch this trainwreck. This has ALL the earmarks of a truly epic upheaval of government. This will be an epic episode in American history and what happens here will reverberate around the world for more than a generation.

Yes. I DO understand your anxiety and edge of disappointment. We Americans have taken it up the backside for generations and without lubricating aids. We have been conned, lied to, cheated, raped, pillaged, plundered, laughed at, spit upon, humiliated repeatedly for GENERATIONS. Any glimmer of hope that we've ever seen has been extinguished as we were conned yet again. America has been a GREAT idea which we, that's ALL of us, wanted to realize in our daily lives but it was ever elusive and always just beyond our grasp. EVERY F'ing politician, appointee, judge, lawyer, enforcement thug and dollar have ALL been used against US to thwart our objectives, our goals, our dreams and desires. Yes, we have EVERY reason to expect disappointment as that is all we have ever received from f'ing government. I am neither immune or above any of this so I DO understand.

At this point I am fixed on giving Trump until the election to make good on EVERYTHING surrounding Q and "the plan". IF it works, GREAT!!! If not, I will decide at that point what I will do, however, the option to keep on keepin' on as we have been for all my life is off the table...
 

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You know, I've watched this Q thing from the time it showed up here at GIM II. I've read every post and watched each video and "the plan" has become quite evident. Trump will, according to the plan, "unleash the hounds" just before the midterm elections. To begin to make the largest dent in the opposition possible it is necessary to do it this way. Trump and his team must remain tight-lipped about what is actually going on. He MUST keep up the appearance of being weak, irrational, nonchalant, provide numerous distractions and diversions to his enemies that at least appear quite plausible to keep them off the track of the real plan. Ok. I get that. It would appear that Team Trump has done that and done such a fine job of it that even his one-time supporters are baffled, perplexed, disappointed and discouraged at this point.

However, things ARE happening. Brennan's butthurt is just so funny I still chuckle when I think about it. Pulling his clearance was just like pulling the rug out from under him and his plans to be the criminals knight on a white horse. Comey is still trying to appear as the victim and where the hell is the "Help! I've lost and I can't shut up!" bitch? Where's her girlfriend? Personally I think they know that they are up to their chins in deep shit and sinking. These are "the bitter enders". They passed panic months ago and are long down the trail desperation heading toward desolation. If they fail to commit suicide they will be like McStain and feign dire illness to buy time to concoct deceitful plans with their lawyers and stall, stall, stall for years. This is ALWAYS their backup plan. Remember Whitewater? Ken Starr? Yeah, they've been to this rodeo before. Yet their former minions and accomplices are spilling the beans. Their many supporters on the left and the right are abandoning them as they step back but still can't look away as they watch this trainwreck. This has ALL the earmarks of a truly epic upheaval of government. This will be an epic episode in American history and what happens here will reverberate around the world for more than a generation.

Yes. I DO understand your anxiety and edge of disappointment. We Americans have taken it up the backside for generations and without lubricating aids. We have been conned, lied to, cheated, raped, pillaged, plundered, laughed at, spit upon, humiliated repeatedly for GENERATIONS. Any glimmer of hope that we've ever seen has been extinguished as we were conned yet again. America has been a GREAT idea which we, that's ALL of us, wanted to realize in our daily lives but it was ever elusive and always just beyond our grasp. EVERY F'ing politician, appointee, judge, lawyer, enforcement thug and dollar have ALL been used against US to thwart our objectives, our goals, our dreams and desires. Yes, we have EVERY reason to expect disappointment as that is all we have ever received from f'ing government. I am neither immune or above any of this so I DO understand.

At this point I am fixed on giving Trump until the election to make good on EVERYTHING surrounding Q and "the plan". IF it works, GREAT!!! If not, I will decide at that point what I will do, however, the option to keep on keepin' on as we have been for all my life is off the table...
I've never been 100% sold on Q but recently I've been convinced there is at least some connection between Trump and Q.

I've allways been all in on Trump and I agree, he needs more time to set the trap. As you point out, there are signs everywhere that things are progressing towards an endgame. If it turns out he's a fraud then it is what it is. To criticize him now like the nevertrumpsters do is simply foolish behavior usually seen from 10 year olds. Trump is taking on the global cabal...give the man a chance!

If not Trump then who?
 

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Hey Trump is not Clinton. Total win. Anything more is gravy.
I expect much more than that! I hired him to clean up DC. Winning was just step 1
 

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Paying off someone for silence? That's not illegal unless it was from campaign funds - but if you were Trump, would you use your own money or campaign funds? He's not stupid.


Say negative things about him, but Hillary NEVER had this kind of support. This happens in every rally he does. I bet he'll win again, handily.


Just watch:



AND...didn't Trump use his own funds to run his campaign???
 

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yes there was no other choice. Hillary was not an option. Midterms are in 2 months.
When nothing happens then we can work on a 10 million man march to DC and demand action. :dduck::dduck::dduck:

Funny you should bring up Andrew jackson, I was just watching documentaries on him last night.
 

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yes there was no other choice. Hillary was not an option. Midterms are in 2 months.
When nothing happens then we can work on a 10 million man march to DC and demand action. :dduck::dduck::dduck:

Funny you should bring up Andrew jackson, I was just watching documentaries on him last night.
Have faith brother, hang in there!!!
 

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The whole conspiracy to prevent a Trump Presidency by FBI/DOJ/CIA/DNC,etc. and then the attempt to overthrow him using thug tactics and lies has been exposed and will continue to be exposed - it is far from over, but, a criminal conspiracy at this level is not going away.
The only conspiracy there was to stage this phony baloney Trump opposition. Trump, the left, right and alphabet agencies are connected at the hip.
Andrew Jackson faced the same fate. he got out in front - telling the people exactly what the nyc pigmen were going to do, before they did it.

pigmen did it and Jackson emerged victorious.

trump needs to do same.
Big difference between Trump and Jackson. Jackson was one of us, Trump is one of them. He was elected by their electronic voting machines.
 

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The only conspiracy there was to stage this phony baloney Trump opposition. Trump, the left, right and alphabet agencies are connected at the hip.
Big difference between Trump and Jackson. Jackson was one of us, Trump is one of them. He was elected by their electronic voting machines.
If you're right then all is indeed lost
 

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If you're right then all is indeed lost
If he's right, that means Trump getting elected was the hags way of retiring. If that were the case, she'd have shut up about it long ago.
 

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Say what you want about Donald Trump, the man can blow off criticism. He owns the original brass balls.

Hes no Xi the Pooh.
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Now there's a puss.
 

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Yes. I DO understand your anxiety and edge of disappointment. We Americans have taken it up the backside for generations and without lubricating aids. We have been conned, lied to, cheated, raped, pillaged, plundered, laughed at, spit upon, humiliated repeatedly for GENERATIONS. Any glimmer of hope that we've ever seen has been extinguished as we were conned yet again. America has been a GREAT idea which we, that's ALL of us, wanted to realize in our daily lives but it was ever elusive and always just beyond our grasp. EVERY F'ing politician, appointee, judge, lawyer, enforcement thug and dollar have ALL been used against US to thwart our objectives, our goals, our dreams and desires. Yes, we have EVERY reason to expect disappointment as that is all we have ever received from f'ing government. I am neither immune or above any of this so I DO understand.
I agree, however, I say we have lived in the best of times on planet earth. One must wonder, how much better it could have been, had the government been on our side ???
When I was young, I made $3.50/hr. & I had a new car ($3,000), a boat ($2000) & a home (19,500). Today, thanks to government created inflation,
wages are in the $12 TO $25/hr. range while a new car is around $30,000 & that home I owned is $435,000, not to mention the high cost of food, gasoline & the insane medical insurance costs, when I was young, medical insurance was not even thought of & a doctor visit was $5 !!!!
Yes, we no longer have a middle class & our streets are lined with homeless camps, WTF happened to our country???
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If he's right, that means Trump getting elected was the hags way of retiring. If that were the case, she'd have shut up about it long ago.
NeverTrumpsters tend to be negative and whiny. You need to be cautious when conversing with them They aren't called T.U.R.Ds for nothing
 

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It's all insane incestuous Kabuki Theater of the Absurd.

There are literally a million lawyers in this country. And Cohen picks Lanny Davis, who is closer to Shillary and Slick Willie than Chelsea Hubble.

Give me an effin' break.
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LADY JUSTICE ISNT BLIND, SHES JUST AFRAID TO WATCH
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We need to get unions out of government, severely reduce government & get rid of the PERS leach !