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Having watched CNN seduce my elderly mother's mind...I'd say the older generations are AT LEAST AS easy to deceive.

It's to deceive the gullible. And the gullible are those who rely on Eww Toob to serve the Internet up - including pre-selected Most Popular vids.
Like the woman I saw sitting on a bench today by her self......... WITH A MASK!
 

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SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual fake news website registered in Russia that "combines Kremlin talking points with detailed knowledge of military systems and ongoing conflicts and attempts to appeal to military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists."[1] According to the European Union's EU vs Disinfo, SouthFront publishes news focused on "security issues, foreign policy, military analysis and reports on military hardware" while "loyally relaying whatever suits the Kremlin."[2] wiki

So, they're probably truthful then.

An endorsement by the EU where freedom of speech is highly cherished [/sarc].
 

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See that's how you "win". The ds kills to end anyone speaking out. And we wxpect to "win" by putting them in jail? :rage 1
 

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Zelensky warns against putting neo-Nazis on trial



Russia will “cut itself off” from talks if Azov fighters are prosecuted in Donbass, Ukrainian president insists

There will be no more peace talks with Russia if captured Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are subjected to a “show trial,” the country's President Vladimir Zelensky has claimed.
The authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) have previously said that they are planning tribunals for suspected war crimes committed by Ukrainian troops, including members of the Azov Battalion, whose ranks include fighters with openly nationalist and neo-Nazi views.

“If this despicable show trial takes place… This will be the line beyond which any negotiations are impossible. Russia will cut itself off from any negotiations,” Zelensky said in a video address early Monday, adding that such a trial would be a violation of international law.

Zelensky’s statement comes after photos appeared on social media allegedly showing large cages being installed on the stage of the Mariupol Philharmonic. Ukraine’s military intelligence service, the GUR, said that the cells will be used to house Ukrainian troops captured by Russian and Donbass forces during the siege of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol. They were largely drawn from the Azov Battalion.

DPR head Denis Pushilin told TASS this month that “active preparations” for the proceedings were underway. “The first tribunal will most likely be held in Mariupol. It will be organized by the end of summer,” he said.
The peace talks between Russia and Ukraine have been stalled since spring.


https://www.rt.com/russia/561277-zelensky-talks-pow-trial/
 

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Zelensky warns against putting neo-Nazis on trial



Russia will “cut itself off” from talks if Azov fighters are prosecuted in Donbass, Ukrainian president insists

There will be no more peace talks with Russia if captured Ukrainian Neo-Nazis are subjected to a “show trial,” the country's President Vladimir Zelensky has claimed.
The authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) have previously said that they are planning tribunals for suspected war crimes committed by Ukrainian troops, including members of the Azov Battalion, whose ranks include fighters with openly nationalist and neo-Nazi views.

“If this despicable show trial takes place… This will be the line beyond which any negotiations are impossible. Russia will cut itself off from any negotiations,” Zelensky said in a video address early Monday, adding that such a trial would be a violation of international law.

Zelensky’s statement comes after photos appeared on social media allegedly showing large cages being installed on the stage of the Mariupol Philharmonic. Ukraine’s military intelligence service, the GUR, said that the cells will be used to house Ukrainian troops captured by Russian and Donbass forces during the siege of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol. They were largely drawn from the Azov Battalion.

DPR head Denis Pushilin told TASS this month that “active preparations” for the proceedings were underway. “The first tribunal will most likely be held in Mariupol. It will be organized by the end of summer,” he said.
The peace talks between Russia and Ukraine have been stalled since spring.


https://www.rt.com/russia/561277-zelensky-talks-pow-trial/
I'm sure the Ruskies are pissing their panties about anything Zelensky says.
 

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I have never been under an enemy arty barrage and hope I never will. Always was my biggest "fear" even more than tanks and I'm a crunchie.


The Politburo in D.C. can have show trials with the captured Capitol surrounded by walls and guarded by the Army, but the Russians can't try actual Nazis for war crimes. Isn't that a quick reversal in roles, within my lifetime?
 

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Anaconda warfare​

by Didact | Mar 16, 2022

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There has been a great deal of speculation over the past three weeks of the Russian campaign as to why they’ve been doing certain things. If you listen to the whorenalists and the presstitutes – I don’t recommend doing so, mostly for the sake of your own mental and digestive health – then you would be convinced that the Russians are on the verge of a catastrophic defeat. Supposedly, they are running out of artillery shells, rations, food, and ammo. They have suffered tens of thousands of casualties, they have lost at least 128 fighter jets and hundreds of helicopters and a thousand tanks, and the fearless and tireless Ukrainian defenders have blasted the Russian convoys apart like tin cans and sent the Great Invaders running like dogs.

The reality on the ground is ENTIRELY different.

Col Macgregor on the Grayzone 15MAR22 "The War for all intents and purposes has been decided"​


f you follow my Telegram channel, you will see that I send over a lot of maps and links from people who actually seem to have some idea of the facts and the realities. One of those is Col. Douglas Macgregor (USArmy-Ret), whose exploits in Desert Storm are legendary. He is one of the VERY few sane voices in all of this. And he has maintained, throughout this entire campaign, that the Russians are waging a slow, methodical, careful war designed to minimise civilian casualties and property damage.

The facts on the ground absolutely bear him out. The videos taken by Ukrainians in Kherson, Melitopol, Odessa, Kharkov, Kiev, and elsewhere, that I share in my Telegram channel, show very clearly that people in Russian-occupied areas are safe, and are receiving humanitarian aid promptly. Elderly Ukrainians are getting their pensions paid. The Russians are doing everything they can to maintain the infrastructure – because they really don’t want to have to rebuild the country. They want instead to keep the country more or less intact.

Here is the situation, as I understand it, at the close of March 16th, 2022:

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Are the gloves off with RF bombers being used?

 

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First Photo of AGM-88 HARM Strike on a Tor SAM System (Image only)​

 

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Read all at link:
International Military Tribunals to be Held in Mariupol, Ukraine!

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"Holy shit… international military tribunals are going to be held in the coming days in Mariupol, Ukraine."

"The Russian Embassy in the US put out a statement at 10:47pm this evening, pertaining to the US State Department’s response to upcoming tribunal in Mariupol."

See full statement from the Russian Embassy below.

“ Comment by the Russian Embassy in the United States on the State Department's statement on the upcoming Tribunal in Mariupol:

We have taken note of another groundless accusations against our country related to the Tribunal over Ukrainian war criminals.

The upcoming Trial is aimed at bringing justice to war criminals, among which there are Nazis from the Azov Regiment. Washington is clearly afraid of making public the evidence of the inhumane acts committed by the members of this terrorist organization.

❗️The International Tribunal in Mariupol can shed light on the true essence of the Kiev regime, of which the United States diligently creates a bright and heroic image. American citizens will finally learn that in reality, their government is helping those who purposefully kill and torture the Russian people of Donbass and Ukraine.

(( "Ahem… excuse me what? The US State Dept are talking about Russian Military tribunals for Nazis?" ))


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22 reported killed in Independence Day attack in Ukraine

KYIV, Ukraine — Russian forces Wednesday launched a rocket attack on a Ukrainian train station on the embattled country's Independence Day, killing 22 people, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said after warning for days that Moscow might attempt "something particularly cruel" this week.

The lethal attack took place in Chaplyne, a town of about 3,500 people in the central Dnipropetrovsk region, Ukrainian news agencies quoted Zelenskyy as telling the U.N. Security Council via video. The president's office also reported that an 11-year-old child was killed by rocket fire earlier in the day in the settlement.

"Chaplyne is our pain today," Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address to the nation.

At one point, Zelenskyy put the number of wounded at about 50. The deputy head of Zelenskyy's office later said 22 people were wounded in the attack, which hit five passenger rail cars.

Ukraine had been bracing for especially heavy attacks around the national holiday that commemorates Ukraine's declaration of independence from the Soviet Union in 1991. Wednesday also marked the six-month point in the war." .....
More Here : https://www.stripes.com/theaters/eu...e-heavy-attacks-independence-day-7090463.html

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FF to approx 15min. mark . That is where I thought iEarlGrey got interesting and informative. gb

LIVE STREAM: Thursday August 25th 2022 - News From Saint Petersburg​

 

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Russian forces Wednesday launched a rocket attack on a Ukrainian train station
More information, please. This is phrased to sound like a terrorist attack, but there is no military point in this report. Were munitions here? Or some other military asset? I doubt that the Russians would spend assets just to harass citizens.
 

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As per chat on latest 'moonofalabama' daily Ukraine conversation was a Iskalander missile (they are either a fragmentation warhead or can be fuel-air). As the Ukranians are just claiming a small(?) number of civilians (no pics of burnt luggage etc.) I'd put more credence in Russian reports it was train with soldiers and munitions. Damage is looking like a fuel/air explosion as the rail cars are still rolling on the track to where they moved it to an area w/o damaged grass?
 

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Dueling Military Tribunals? Let’s see the evidence then. Russia have been showing their evidence, where’s Ukraine's?

Could Russia's Vladimir Putin face a Nuremberg-style tribunal over the Ukraine war?​

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AUGUST 16, 2022

 

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Ukraine Previously Cited High Casualty Rates - It Is Now Lowballing Those Numbers​

In June several Ukrainian officials admitted that their army had some 700 or even more casualties per day. The numbers were played up to gain access to more 'western' weapons. Since then Ukrainian officials have stated much lower totals of killed and wounded than make sense.

The lowball casualty numbers now are probably convenient to increase moral in Ukraine and to hide from its supporters the inevitable defeat that the Ukrainian army will experience.

This report must be seen in that light.

Russia Hits Train Station in Deadly Attack on Ukraine’s Independence Day - New York Times

A Russian missile hit a train station in eastern Ukraine, killing at least 22 people, President Volodymyr Zelensky said Wednesday, in an attack that came as Ukraine celebrated its Independence Day and brought home the harsh reality of the six-month-old war.
The attack, which took place in an area about 74 miles east of the city of Dnipro in Ukraine-controlled territory, was one of the deadliest strikes on the country’s railways since April, when more than 50 people were killed when a rocket slammed into a crowded railway platform in eastern Ukraine.
The previous attack on a train station which killed some 50 people in Kramatorsk was done with a Ukrainian Tochka-U missile fired from a position under Ukrainian control. Since 2019 the Russian military no longer uses Tochka-U missiles. They have been completely replaced with the more effective Iskander missiles. (A month ago the Donetsk People's Republic was said to have received some old Tochka's for counter battery fire against the Ukrainian units that fire at Donetsk city.)

Now lets look at yesterday's attack which happened near the Chaplino railway station in the Dnepropetrovsk region.

Direct attacks on trains or train stations have been quite unusual in this war. A few months ago there were some night attacks on trains in the western regions of Ukraine hitting at weapon transports that had come in from the 'west'. But an attack with high casualty numbers is unusual. Russia must have been sure that the train transported military and not civilian stuff.

Here are pictures of the result of yesterday's attack:

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There is also a short video clip which shows that the passenger train was standing next to freight train that carried military vehicles.

/End-update

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Cont. reading: Ukraine Previously Cited High Casualty Rates - It Is Now Lowballing Those Numbers

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Good read IMO:





 

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Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 27.08.2022​

 

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I find it interesting the Western Narrative ( WEF. Bidet, UK,...) speaks one way while the stories and reports from countries affected tell an opposite action.
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Supposedly 47min-52min is 'key' if you aren't watching the whole thing:


 

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Supposedly 47min-52min is 'key' if you aren't watching the whole thing:


? The video is only 47 min. long.
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Oh well, is it too much to hope for that both sides lose?