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watching the collusion between the communist govs and the megacorps -- censoring, firing, vaccinating, banning, banishing, denying, etc to infinity...

union man says --- CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
 

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Safe to say the communist vs fascism argument has been put to rest? ...or do we need to get some antifa nancy boiz over here to beat people up until they admit orange man is bad?

Nationalism = evil
National socialism = dreamy
 

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they debased your unions just like they debased your money, your skoolz, your society.....
 

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Say what? The unions are helping to push these things in many cases.
 

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Say what? The unions are helping to push these things in many cases.

those unions are to real unions

as federal reserve notes are to gold

they debased and disparaged unions for a reason -- we are living it

the union is our only defense -- whether formal or informal (sickouts/ etc are basic versions of same)
 

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how about instead of Unions, we've got one right now, 50 of them, they're not all getting along with each other...

how about a 'singular voice'? how about any conservative step up and begin the arrests


but i reply to my own statement:
it does seem the union of the military are not yet ready to stand up...hmmmm


no, i think i'll keep my own freedom, i'll speak for myself, represent myself, i'm o.k. with doing without
 

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it's one thing to have a collective voice, someone you might even want to give the job to, someone you'd pay to take the job


it's another to have someone step in and say they'll be that voice, but you're gonna have to pay them...first



perhaps that's but two ends of the same dog, so, i'll take the front end,


and we begin anew...


 

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open border free traders continue to lose their jobs.....while this collective action got results

the need for unions has arrived, big time. even worse than the conditions that led to the union movement 100 year ago

the fist of our well-funded communist enemies has been removed from the glove. this is our answer - collective action against them

or die

pick it

 

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it's one thing to have a collective voice, someone you might even want to give the job to, someone you'd pay to take the job


it's another to have someone step in and say they'll be that voice, but you're gonna have to pay them...first



perhaps that's but two ends of the same dog, so, i'll take the front end,


and we begin anew...



because this 'gold coin' is shit
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doesnt mean this 'gold coin' is shit
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the communists invaded your unions, just like they did your skoolz, your government, your money

we can take the broken unions back -- or create non-communist unions/collectives
 

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they debased your unions just like they debased your money, your skoolz, your society.....
That wasn't hard to do.

Not only is the idea of unionism a collectivist, anti-entrepreneurial concept...but since the dawn of the Organized Labor movement, it's been covertly-controlled by Marxists.

It's an easy way to get the wealth of others (union "dues") and its membership tends to be unsophisticated.
 

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That wasn't hard to do.

Not only is the idea of unionism a collectivist, anti-entrepreneurial concept...but since the dawn of the Organized Labor movement, it's been covertly-controlled by Marxists.

It's an easy way to get the wealth of others (union "dues") and its membership tends to be unsophisticated.

doesnt matter. the only way to fight the collusion between corporations and between corporations and communist govs is to unite in the fight

we are seeing what happens to muh individualism, muh open border free marketers-- he/she is fired/banned/jailed/killed
 

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doesnt matter. the only way to fight the collusion between corporations and between corporations and communist govs is to unite in the fight
that depends on two things:
who's the leader?
what direction are we going?
third:
who else is going along?


i won't blindly follow anyone, any more

and i sure as hell ain't paying anyone for any information either...i'm doing fine, just as i am (with some information help from you folks here)


choose your poisons carefully
 

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It's an easy way to get the wealth of others (union "dues") and its membership tends to be unsophisticated.
“Disengaged” may be a better term than “unsophisticated”, that is until they do something stupid enough to put disciplinary action or their job on the table. Individuals tend to become extremely union oriented at that point.
 

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“Disengaged” may be a better term than “unsophisticated”, that is until they do something stupid enough to put disciplinary action or their job on the table. Individuals tend to become extremely union oriented at that point.
Well...that's human nature. There are no atheists in front-line foxholes.

It's very, very rare to have someone stand there and own up to a fa-cop...just say, Yeah, I did it, and take what comes of it. If he can save his good-paying job with union involvement, he'll do it.

What I found is, most of the "union-oriented" employees, saw what they union does - for those with union positions. When Conrail was purchased and incorporated into larger railroads (bought by two competitors and then cut in half) the lenient attendance policy was abolished. Which was a hardship - railroading is on-call, twelve-plus hours a turn, no set start time, no guaranteed day off (back then; now it's the law). But Conrail allowed men to turn down work. CSX did not.

But union officers could always claim "union business." It was uncontestable. It could be anything and no proof required. So, to be able to get enough sleep, to see your family enough to avoid Divorce Court, you became a union officer.

Never did it cross their minds that maybe the union should be working to get a similarly-tolerable lifestyle arrangement for the rank-and-file. What we did have but which went away...because those same union officers were BOUGHT. Long story how; but it was an open secret, they got in-kind payola.
 

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Never did it cross their minds that maybe the union should be working to get a similarly-tolerable lifestyle arrangement for the rank-and-file.
That is what my union does. Any time spent working with management on issues inside the gate is paid by the company. Time away from work spent working on issues at the hall are lost time paid by the local.

All of our officers work at the Plant for a living and electing to get involved means a substantial sacrifice of personal and family time that cannot truly be compensated for.

Being a union officer puts an unannounced target on your back. Every move is scrutinized with any opportunities given for managerial dress-down handled with glee by the company.

That is the culture that our union lives in and I cannot speak for union activities anywhere else. I am, however tired of being compared to the unions and locals that have given unions a bad name and a black eye. That ain’t us.
 

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go ahead, fight this beast with muh open border free trade individualism (one of their best scams)


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I'm not sure what the disagreement is here.

Have open borders destroyed our heritage, our culture, our way of life, our standard of living, and driven up our crime rates, overwhelmed our social services, bankrupted us, and generally destroyed our nation? Yes of course.

Has free trade hollowed out our manufacturing and military readiness, driven down wages, ruined the future of generations of Americans, made psychopath elites all-powerful, made china a hugely powerful enemy? Yes of course.

And it was all by design. That is what the deep state wanted. They want you dead as a door nail.

What exactly is there to debate about it?
 

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I'm not sure what the disagreement is here.

Have open borders destroyed our heritage, our culture, our way of life, our standard of living, and driven up our crime rates, overwhelmed our social services, bankrupted us, and generally destroyed our nation? Yes of course.

Has free trade hollowed out our manufacturing and military readiness, driven down wages, ruined the future of generations of Americans, made psychopath elites all-powerful, made china a hugely powerful enemy? Yes of course.

And it was all by design. That is what the deep state wanted. They want you dead as a door nail.

What exactly is there to debate about it?

they cling to the (propaganda) protocols of 'free trade' that was pounded into our heads. free trade, as applied by the propagandists, has decimated the american working man
 

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Some being more equal than others.
 

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"We are proud to have negotiated collective bargaining agreements with several unions regarding the vaccination mandate, which provide a process for our employees to request medical or religious exemptions and establish rules for employees on leave without pay," de Blasio's office said in a statement on Twitter.
 

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those unions are to real unions

as federal reserve notes are to gold

they debased and disparaged unions for a reason -- we are living it

the union is our only defense -- whether formal or informal (sickouts/ etc are basic versions of same)
I think that any hierarchical power structure is bad. Once such an organization coopts government to grant it special privileges, whether that is limited liability, licensing laws, or closed shop laws then it is acting for the benefit of a few at the expense of the many.

Expecting corrupt unions to somehow compensate for corrupt corporations is not a solution. We must fight corruption everywhere we find it.
 

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I think that any hierarchical power structure is bad. Once such an organization coopts government to grant it special privileges, whether that is limited liability, licensing laws, or closed shop laws then it is acting for the benefit of a few at the expense of the many.

Expecting corrupt unions to somehow compensate for corrupt corporations is not a solution. We must fight corruption everywhere we find it.

true. but also true is they are our best/most achievable/realistic option

there are solid unions out there. but they dont get in the propaganda stream like the teachers unions in the communist states.......or the other plethora of communist state unions. media gives a massively warped view of the things. that's part of the open border free trade propaganda

there's no law that says unions have to support globo homo, globalist warming, open borders, kill whitey, election rigging, forced injections -- and many dont. but they dont make the tv. the communist run unions are always the ones in the news feeds
 
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true. but also true is they are our best/most achievable/realistic option

there are solid unions out there. but they dont get in the propaganda stream like the teachers unions in the communist states.......or the other plethora of communist state unions. media gives a massively warped view of the things. that's part of the open border free trade propaganda

there's no law that says unions have to support globo homo, globalist warming, open borders, kill whitey, election rigging, forced injections -- and many dont. but they dont make the tv. the communist run unions are always the ones in the news feeds
There's no law that says the Roman Catholic Church has to be corrupt either. But it usually is. The larger an organization gets, the more layers separate its leader from the men he represents, the more corrupt an organization will become.

Any large organization will almost always be corrupted by the globalists because that's the way the math works. They want a world full of large organizations because bribing three or four people at the top is cheap on a per capita basis and effective. Unions are no different than political parties, or school boards in this respect.
 

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There's no law that says the Roman Catholic Church has to be corrupt either. But it usually is. The larger an organization gets, the more layers separate its leader from the men he represents, the more corrupt an organization will become.

Any large organization will almost always be corrupted by the globalists because that's the way the math works. They want a world full of large organizations because bribing three or four people at the top is cheap on a per capita basis and effective. Unions are no different than political parties, or school boards in this respect.

not too long ago there was a wave of consolidation in the trade unions. they were told that this will give them more power. lol

i'm all ears -- if anyone wants to suggest a better course of action. so far, crickets

you even see non-union people trying to collectivize to fight the tyranny -- nurses, etc