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Unseasonably chilly August ahead for the eastern two-thirds of the US with 60F lows

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It's been cool in NYC as I watch Fox News. Been hot in Florida, but lots of rain brings down overall daily temps. About 2 weeks ago it was 77* at 4pm after a rain in South Florida. That's cold.
 

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It's unseasonably cool already. Typical Hoosier August is humid, hot and we're made the poster children for "the dog days of summer". Grass is still green all around town. This morning it was 52 when I got up, expected high of 77. 7 day forecast is hovering about 80/82 for the highs. 2 days ago we hit a high of 56! Really feels much more like mid September these days. Katydids started singing 28 June. This is remarkably early. Lake Michigan has been quite slow getting up to summertime temps which means not much of a "heat bank" this year to help tame the winter temps.

All in all this does NOT bode well for the coming winter. I'm expecting lower temperatures and an extended winter, maybe into late April 2018. Damn near tempted to gas up and fire up the snowblower now to make sure all is in working order. All year long we seem to have been at least a month ahead (and growing) in weather. At this rate we may see snow about the middle of October!
 

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But wait...
What about this?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/...lights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

WASHINGTON — The average temperature in the United States has risen rapidly and drastically since 1980, and recent decades have been the warmest of the past 1,500 years, according to a sweeping federal climate change report awaiting approval by the Trump administration.

The draft report by scientists from 13 federal agencies, which has not yet been made public, concludes that Americans are feeling the effects of climate change right now. It directly contradicts claims by President Trump and members of his cabinet who say that the human contribution to climate change is uncertain, and that the ability to predict the effects is limited.

“Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans,” a draft of the report states. A copy of it was obtained by The New York Times.

The authors note that thousands of studies, conducted by tens of thousands of scientists, have documented climate changes on land and in the air. “Many lines of evidence demonstrate that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse (heat-trapping) gases, are primarily responsible for recent observed climate change,” they wrote.

The report was completed this year and is a special science section of the National Climate Assessment, which is congressionally mandated every four years. The National Academy of Sciences has signed off on the draft report, and the authors are awaiting permission from the Trump administration to release it.
 

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Maybe they were measuring unicorn farts?
 

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As usual the MSM doesn't jive with reality. This is the problem with all the lies. Its also what is driving the left crazy. truth is a bitch and when presented with it their heads explode. The lies are getting so bad My head is about to explode. The only thing you can really do is walk away from it but its hard to not at least point out facts to them.

I am still on the fence on the 206 year sun cycle but it does look more and more like it's happening. Sunspot activity is very low, solar winds are very low and all of this has been predicted to lead to wetter and cooler temps.
Check out the work of john casey. Some russians have also made the same predictions. There's also a utube channel, adapt2030 that is pushing this hard. There is some good info and graphs in his videos though but he pushes the ad side of things a little much.
 

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So what most people don't know is that in the mid-70s, the World Meteorological Organization shut down approximately half of the global weather sensing stations (cost savings during a slow economic era?). Most of the 50% were in rural areas (cooler). The remaining stations were in urban (thermal heat islands) or suburban (semi-heat islands) that are warmer than the rural areas. When you take a dataset and remove all the lower data points, you artificially increase the "average". The urban sprawl is also making historically "rural" or "suburban" areas increase in temperature as more and more land is plowed under and coated with asphalt.

Yeah...humans are impacting the measurement of the climate. But we're not necessarily "changing" the climate...just the way surface temps are measured and averaged.

Oh, and btw...NOAA uses surface data to "calibrate" the satellites that measure the rest of the world...so guess what? The satellite data is somewhat skewed as well.