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I am going to start a Prayer Thread for who wants to add their thoughts and prayers as well.


Lord we are not worthy but are all upset with the accusations of pedophelia and organ trafficing we are finding out about being uncovered in this world we live in especially in places like Haiti. We can expose this abuse and mutilation but need your devine intervention. We need you more than ever in these hard times. Also I am praying for our young men who are fighting a war with those who would just as soon behead us. I know there is power when 3 or more pray together I ask you in Jesus Name. Amen
 

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Forgiveness is difficult, especially where these child abusers, torturers and murderers are concerned, but unless we forgive, we maintain the same level of hatred.

Vengeance is mine, saith the LORD.
 

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Forgiveness is difficult, especially where these child abusers, torturers and murderers are concerned, but unless we forgive, we maintain the same level of hatred.

Vengeance is mine, saith the LORD.
A lot of people who really don't understand that there is a huge difference between forgiveness and forgetting.
 

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No one will punish them like God will punish them.

"And whoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea." Mark 9:42

Praying in agreement with GaryW...

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This was the first time I have ever written a prayer online but it has been on my mind for a while. I asked for Devine Intervention because I have been told if it is right it will happen and 3 or more pray it is powerful.
 

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Love the Sinner HATE the SIN.
Yes, Forgiveness IS difficult, and may NEVER be forgotten. Those of us who love God should obey his words as he commands. Our weakness is what we pray to overcome.

Matthew, chapter 5, verses 44-48:
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

The Lord Jesus said love, bless, do good and pray.

Lord Jesus knows man is weak. As he walked as man on Earth he TURNED OVER the money changer tables at the Synagogue.
 
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I never forgive and I never forget. I know I'm hellbound but that's OK, I'll take one for the team. The night of the Long Knives cometh, and that right soon.
 

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Forgiveness can only be granted after true repentance. We don't forgive the pedophiles because we're nice and hope they change. They must repent, honestly and completely, change their ways and then we can forgive and only then! But, the evil has still been committed and many innocent lives destroyed, so justice still has to be served and the guilty need to be prosecuted. Not hatefully, but decisively. People need to understand this forgiveness thing. God does not forgive us until we admit our guilt, repent fully and change our ways. Not before and not just because He's nice. Someone had to pay for our guilt. That's Christ and God doesn't take His sacrifice lightly. We shouldn't take the suffering of the innocent lightly, either. If we do, we're just as guilty as the ones who took advantage of the innocent.
 

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Forgiveness can only be granted after true repentance. We don't forgive the pedophiles because we're nice and hope they change. They must repent, honestly and completely, change their ways and then we can forgive and only then! But, the evil has still been committed and many innocent lives destroyed, so justice still has to be served and the guilty need to be prosecuted. Not hatefully, but decisively. People need to understand this forgiveness thing. God does not forgive us until we admit our guilt, repent fully and change our ways. Not before and not just because He's nice. Someone had to pay for our guilt. That's Christ and God doesn't take His sacrifice lightly. We shouldn't take the suffering of the innocent lightly, either. If we do, we're just as guilty as the ones who took advantage of the innocent.
77 x 77 times we must forgive, and yet to let evil tormentors walk free to harm others is a crime in itself...almost unforgiveable.

Who will bring these sons of Belial to earthly justice?
 

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Who will bring these sons of Belial to earthly justice?
Something it took me a long time to learn, It's not about what goes on here on earth that matters most. We are all sinners and that is just a fact. We work to be better, more understanding, and compassionate towards others no matter who they are.

The sons of Cain will always be evil, as that is who they are, killers of men. This life isn't what it is about, that's why it is called faith. You know the camel/needle thing. Conduct your life with the this thought in mind. "Will I be properly dressed to get into the wedding feast"? Or will I be tossed out because I am not properly dressed? It is our choice, and our choice alone. On that day, will he know you?
 

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Pedophiles should burn, slowly.
As a father pf 2 and a grandfather of 5, I do understand your passion Muj, just don't allow it to own you, OK?

And that goes out to you mr. shoot-em-up guy.
 

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I've been praying about Pizzagate daily.

What we need is for the whole thing to be exposed -- people, names, rituals, dates, victims, etc. along with appropriate consequences for the offenders to the point where nobody can deny it.

If there is anything that would have the potential to unite this country and heal it, this is it. It's one thing to have ideological disputes. It's another thing entirely to be governed by a group of people who prey on children.

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God does not forgive us until we admit our guilt, repent fully and change our ways. Not before and not just because He's nice. Someone had to pay for our guilt. That's Christ and God doesn't take His sacrifice lightly. We shouldn't take the suffering of the innocent lightly, either. If we do, we're just as guilty as the ones who took advantage of the innocent.
The problem we have is humanity is the stain of sin and the influence of Satan. We are all sinners and the wages of sin are death. We have all succumbed to this world and doing the wrong thing at some time. Considering that, I think the only way you could not forgive is to somehow think you are better than they are. We are the clay and he is the potter. There is none good except Christ. That does not mean offenders should not be subject to consequences. But, we should recognize them as fellow fallen human beings who are capable of being redeemed through the blood of the Savior.

Christ's last words were to forgive them for they know not what they do. They may well know what they are doing is wrong, but they do not know what the eternal consequences are of their sin.

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As a father pf 2 and a grandfather of 5, I do understand your passion Muj, just don't allow it to own you, OK?

And that goes out to you mr. shoot-em-up guy.
Thanks mayhem. I'm not a religious guy however; I will reference you to a bible passage that I DO believe in.


An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth....

I'll leave it right there and thank you for your concern for my soul :)
 

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Christ's last words were to forgive them for they know not what they do. They may well know what they are doing is wrong, but they do not know what the eternal consequences are of their sin.
If only I had the strength of Jesus to forgive however; I do not. I am only a mortal man and as such, I cannot forgive what is being done to these innocent children every day. As a father of three and a grandfather of 7 the sins of these evil people cannot be forgiven by this man's heart. Someone must stand for the children. Jesus is not here to protect them from these animals so someone needs to. I only pray that some day I can confront at least one of them face to face. I can guarantee you there will be no forgiveness in my heart that day.
 

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If only I had the strength of Jesus to forgive however; I do not. I am only a mortal man and as such, I cannot forgive what is being done to these innocent children every day. As a father of three and a grandfather of 7 the sins of these evil people cannot be forgiven by this man's heart. Someone must stand for the children. Jesus is not here to protect them from these animals so someone needs to. I only pray that some day I can confront at least one of them face to face. I can guarantee you there will be no forgiveness in my heart that day.
"Someone MUST stand for the children."

Absolutely. And I'll say one more thing. If we don't defend the defenseless innocents in our society, we don't deserve to continue on as a nation of men. We're cowards.
 
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Son of Gloin You inspired me to start this thread. I however I hoped to see at least 3 prayers in the mix. Discussion is good but is not as powerful as Prayer.
 

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Garyw, I read your prayer thought it hit home, and I use it.

The LORD'S PRAYER does not need modified or adlibbed.

YOU done GOOD. THANK YOU.
 

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Son of Gloin You inspired me to start this thread. I however I hoped to see at least 3 prayers in the mix. Discussion is good but is not as powerful as Prayer.
Prayer is good for the soul but action is the only thing that has any real effect. Pray all you want but be sure your aim is straight and true. Jesus isn't walking through that door folks. Either these people are put down or we might as well sit back and accept what they have in store for the world.
 

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LORD Jesus; creator of heaven and earth. You paid for the sins of your chosen people.
You are the conquering KING of Kings and LORD of Lords.
You know everything. The stench of frail humanity reaches your heavenly dwelling.
I beseech you to bring incorruptible, Godly men and women into the service of law enforcement.
Give them the strength to resist the temptations of bribery which will be showered upon them as they move ever closer to bringing these child abusers to justice.
Bring justice back into the court system.
Give us restraint and patience as we confront these sons of Belial which pass our children through the fire.
And when it comes time to destroy these evil men, give us the strength to do that which is right in thy sight.
In Jesus righteous, magnificent and glorious name I pray.
Amen
 

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Shootist. I like posts you have made here. I am not here to judge anyone. I also will take arms to protect this country from socialism which is deep in the state of Oregon. In 1968 I joined the Army and pledged to defend this country from threats both foreign and domestic. It sickens my heart to see the young people revolting on the side of socialism. I never thought I would live long enough to see this day. I have shame and pride at the same time that is why I am torn. I had no idea of the scale of Pedophelia and organ trafficing for the sake of greed. Maybe someday you will have an experience like I have and have daily miracles. I hope you do it is amazing. I know you are a good man and I would be proud to fight along side of you because what we are fighting for is right and if it is right we can succeed.
 

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Shootist. I like posts you have made here. I am not here to judge anyone. I also will take arms to protect this country from socialism which is deep in the state of Oregon. In 1968 I joined the Army and pledged to defend this country from threats both foreign and domestic. It sickens my heart to see the young people revolting on the side of socialism. I never thought I would live long enough to see this day. I have shame and pride at the same time that is why I am torn. I had no idea of the scale of Pedophelia and organ trafficing for the sake of greed. Maybe someday you will have an experience like I have and have daily miracles. I hope you do it is amazing. I know you are a good man and I would be proud to fight along side of you because what we are fighting for is right and if it is right we can succeed.
If our Creator can hear your/our prayers, then why can't He see the huge atrocities of child molestation, as there is NO HIGHER CRIME ? If he truly listens to your prayers, I fully expect Him to do something about it. Can I expect to see these cretins pay dearly for their most heinous of crimes ? Sorry, I don't see it in our future OR the catholic priest would no longer be molesting little children !!!!
 
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If our Creator can hear your our prayers, then why can't He see the huge atrocities of child molestation, as there is NO HIGHER CRIME ? If he truly listens to your prayers, I fully expect Him to do something about it. Can I expect to see these cretins pay dearly for their most heinous of crimes ? Sorry, I don't see it in our future OR the catholic priest would no longer be molesting little children !!!!
He does hear our prayers and see the child molestation. The problem is you want immediate justice but the justice that will be given is not of temporal but of eternal consequence.

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The problem is you want immediate justice ...

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That would be nice. Why can't He throw us a bone? This whole 'they will pay the price in the afterlife' bullshit is getting old and the longer we stand by and 'let Jesus do it' the more children get raped, sodomized and killed.
 

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Sometimes he does... Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord. He has his plan, called his Will which is why we pray that his will not ours be done. He works things outside of our time-space continuum and his ways are higher than our ways. The point is that he is sovereign like a King and all we can do is petition him through prayer.

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If our Creator can hear your our prayers, then why can't He see the huge atrocities of child molestation, as there is NO HIGHER CRIME ? If he truly listens to your prayers, I fully expect Him to do something about it. Can I expect to see these cretins pay dearly for their most heinous of crimes ? Sorry, I don't see it in our future OR the catholic priest would no longer be molesting little children !!!!
As I stated in the post above Taezzar I get daily miracles. If you see something coming out of the Justice department in the near future you can think about what I just said. No guarantees in this day and age but I will be watching and just remember if it is right it will happen.[/QUOTE]
 

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Sometimes he does... Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord. He has his plan, called his Will which is why we pray that his will not ours be done. He works things outside of our time-space continuum and his ways are higher than our ways. The point is that he is sovereign like a King and all we can do is petition him through prayer.

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We should be policing our own, not standing by waiting for divine intervention! Holy jumpin' shit knickers......how much is enough??
 

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I have to ask ... how many of the Christians posting in this thread have actually read the Bible through, cover to cover? Recently? If someone could quote me line and verse, where God says anything about pedophilia? Not that I think they deserve better than a long walk over hot coals to a cliff edge overhanging the ocean. But the Bible doesn't have much of a 2017 take on child sex. In fact, it's pretty loose on rape all together.
 

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I have to ask ... how many of the Christians posting in this thread have actually read the Bible through, cover to cover? Recently? If someone could quote me line and verse, where God says anything about pedophilia? Not that I think they deserve better than a long walk over hot coals to a cliff edge overhanging the ocean. But the Bible doesn't have much of a 2017 take on child sex. In fact, it's pretty loose on rape all together.
Another fine example of how the bible (and any religious literature) warps reality. There are kids out there going through hell and all we do is ask "What would Jesus do?" then banter back and forth about righteousness and 'muh religion'! While all this is going on who stands for the children?
 

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I don't disagree ... but historically, children have been having sex forever ... the species survived. Today we see it as wrong .. because we've been brought up to think it's wrong. Today's generation is being taught it's OK for a 5 year old to decide to chop off his penis.
 

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I got Lindsey Graham you guys go ahead and pray for the rest of the scumbags.
 

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I got Lindsey Graham you guys go ahead and pray for the rest of the scumbags.
I pray for the Lord to grant me a steady hand and a true aim when this shit gets started. See? I'm not a total loss! :)
 

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I don't disagree ... but historically, children have been having sex forever ... the species survived. Today we see it as wrong .. because we've been brought up to think it's wrong. Today's generation is being taught it's OK for a 5 year old to decide to chop off his penis.

Is Taught the Key word Professur?
 

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Prayer is good for the soul but action is the only thing that has any real effect. Pray all you want but be sure your aim is straight and true. Jesus isn't walking through that door folks. Either these people are put down or we might as well sit back and accept what they have in store for the world.
That would be nice. Why can't He throw us a bone? This whole 'they will pay the price in the afterlife' bullshit is getting old and the longer we stand by and 'let Jesus do it' the more children get raped, sodomized and killed.
"PRAISE GOD and PASS the AMMUNITION"

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"Onward Christian Soldiers".
 

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We should be policing our own, not standing by waiting for divine intervention! Holy jumpin' shit knickers......how much is enough??
We absolutely should be policing our own and I would support giving the maximum penalty to any offenders.

But, the important piece is what is at work here is Satanism and you can't fight Satan without the power of Jesus Christ. The establishment would be happy to roll a few heads and show a few rogue people that they can cast off. I want the whole thing exposed which includes systems, Satanic rituals, government procedures, how they infiltrate the government, etc.

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