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What If Politics Can't Fix What's Broken?

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What If Politics Can't Fix What's Broken?

March 8, 2019

This is the politics of decline and collapse.

The unspoken assumption of the modern era is that politics can fix whatever is broken: whatever is broken in society or the economy can be fixed by some political policy or political process-- becoming more inclusionary, seeking non-partisan middle ground, etc.

What if this assumption is flat-out wrong? What is politics is incapable of fixing what's broken? What if politics merely fosters an illusion of solutions, a paper-thin veneer of faux progress? What if politics isn't a tool that's capable of fixing what's broken? What if all politics is able to do is generate delusions of grandeur and unresolvable conflicts? What if politics is ultimately little more than a fatal distraction?

This is of course heresy of the highest order, for a belief in the supremacy of politics is the secular religion of our era. The orthodoxy is: there is no problem that can't be solved with a political policy: a tax cut, a new tax, a new incentive, a broader definition of criminality, and so on.

What if the status quo is failing for reasons that are beyond the reach of politics? Politics assumes that tweaking incentives and disincentives via rewards and punishments, centralizing control of assets and income streams and manipulating the issuance of currency and interest rates can fix any and every problem.

The limits of politics are the limits of government. In the present era, all government seeks to further centralize power and capital because the era's quasi-religious belief is that centralization is the solution to everything.

This is of course false. Centralization works until it becomes the problem, at which point further centralization of power and capital only speeds system-wide failure.

Government can force certain things but it can't force everything. Government can encourage borrowing but it can't force its citizens to borrow. Government can force the expansion of currency, but it can't force the valuation of that currency.

Government can mandate this and that, but it can't force a negative return on investment (ROI) to magically become positive. Government can prohibit and tax and force outward compliance, but it can't force people to agree with policies that run counter to their beliefs.

Government can't rescue a status quo which is failing due to negative return on investment (ROI), gross inefficiencies, the loss of trust in corrupt institutions , and all the other ills that are intrinsic to centralization of power and capital.

As a result, the greater the government's power, the greater the polarization as the self-serving elites seek to protect their share of the pie as the pie shrinks. Each camp becomes increasingly extreme, and compromise is recognized as a process that erodes every camp's power and income.

The political solution is take-no-prisoners domination and the eradication of rivals' power to veto or contest the domination of the winner. This drive to polarization is the result of centralized elites attempting to distribute the system's increasing failure to their competing elites.

This is the politics of decline and collapse. This is the only possible output of centralized power grabs by self-serving elites, i.e. the status quo.




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The free flow of true information can fix a lot more than modern politics can fix.
 

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Politricks. The shitstem.
 

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As Einstein said: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

Depending on the government to solve many of the problems they themselves created is a fool's errand.
 

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and yet we have the same politicians in office for 4 and 5 terms ... the problem is obvious ... we are the problem.
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I've voted against incumbents for the last 20 years ... I could use some help.
 
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and yet we have the same politicians in office for 4 and 5 terms ... the problem is obvious ... we are the problem.
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I've voted against incumbents for the last 20 years ... I could use some help.
We are not the problem, Diebold is the problem.

"He who votes decides nothing, he who counts the votes decides everything." Josef Djugashvili Stalin
 

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At this point I don't believe politics will solve anything. Politics can only work when you have a group of similar people with similar goals and similar morals that disagree on the fine points of moving forward.

Diversity, the disintegration of the family, and the perversion of morals have created an environment where all the "groups" have different goals and wants, they all want power and the spoils for themselves, aside from consumerism they have almost nothing in common.

Today you have the mainstream left which openly speaks about democratic socialism, communism, reparations, and have a fervent hatred for the founders of this country and their descendants. All the while those on the mainstream right continue on, business as usual, and hope that we can all just get along.

I'm afraid some form of totalitarian rule is coming in the furure, the question is: Which ideology do you embrace and want in control?
 

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You guys keep circling the mountain over and over about trying to answer the question of why the human condition is the way it is...and how to fix it. All these ideas and "better ways"...and the truth is...none of them are new or original ideas...they have been around for millenia...and no matter what we try as a "fix" for whatever the problem is...the problem never gets fixed - and the people that we entrust to act as our overseers...they always fail us...

And we end up with analysis about why X cant fix Y...and what to do about it...

Have seen this many times over the years here...

The problem is US. We humans are the problem. Its not complicated. Its called sin. And sin is rooted in rebellion.

Its rebellion against God. And His Law.

Funny thing is...no matter where you look in the universe...from the furthest galaxy...to the innerworkings of an atom...everything works with amazing precision and balance except for...US.

And I am not throwing stones...I am a part of US too.

Its in our very natures. Its in our hearts. And its gonna eradicate humans as a species in due time.

Sin.

And I am firmly and utterly convinced that the ONLY hope we have...individually and as a species is Jesus Christ.
 

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We are not the problem, Diebold is the problem.

"He who votes decides nothing, he who counts the votes decides everything." Josef Djugashvili Stalin
Is it really diebold? I don’t see anyone who could help change the situation being cheated out of votes.

I think people expecting the TV to be a truthful source of into and the money required to run for office is a way bigger problem.
 

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Is it really diebold? I don’t see anyone who could help change the situation being cheated out of votes.
They don't even make it far enough to become candidates. TPTB provide hundreds of them from all (pretended) points of view, then they pretend to let us choose among them. Then they announce the frontrunners...

OK, I'll bite.

Why would Diebold give the election to El Trumpster?
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Because he is their actor.
When you watch a movie and your favorite actor is shot down, you know he's not really dead, you know it's just in the script, right? Why do you think it's any different in politics?
 

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When you watch a movie and your favorite actor is shot down, you know he's not really dead, you know it's just in the script, right? Why do you think it's any different in politics?
If it's not, then Trump is one of those things they call the exception that proves the rule.

Because if that was the case, there was no need to go through all this BS for the past two+ years. If tptb wanted Trump, all they had to do was cast him as the chosen one. Nobody thought he was a nazi racist until the ptb decided to cast him in that light. Before that, no one had a problem with him.

Or do you think they had to do it that way to avoid the hag realizing they weren't really behind her? Because, you know, they knew she'd have had them killed? So they had no choice other than to pretend to back her in order to secretly help Trump win.
 

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Politics is the problem.
 

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Politics is the problem.
The only way it couldn't be, is if everyone is already in agreement. When has that ever happened?

pol·i·tics
/ˈpäləˌtiks/
noun

  1. the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.


We'll always have politics. It's part of the human condition.
 

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Only Jesus - a truly unselfish, loving, and just leader - can establish a government of peace. Everyone else is corrupted by power (in reality, the power just allows their innate corruption to blossom).
 

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Nobody thought he was a nazi racist until the ptb decided to cast him in that light. Before that, no one had a problem with him..
TPTB are constantly drawing our attention to their puppets and playing identity politics. Divide and conquer. It keeps our eyes off the real problem.
 

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TPTB are constantly drawing our attention to their puppets and playing identity politics. Divide and conquer. It keeps our eyes off the real problem.
So you honestly believe that the hag wasn't their chosen one?
....and if things are really so controlled as to be able to intentionally create everything we see and that anything that happens serves our secret masters wishes, you might as well give up and keep your head down. Because what you describe is too big and too powerful for you or I to ever do anything about it. IMHO, that seems like willingly accepting a hopeless position.
 

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If it's not, then Trump is one of those things they call the exception that proves the rule.
Your posts, in my view are among the most astute and spot-on of any on GIM2. And I do mean that. But come on Joe, this one makes no sense. It's like asserting that without an exception the rule is not valid. Clearly not an argument that you would want to take very far.

I know you can do better.
 

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So you honestly believe that the hag wasn't their chosen one?
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All the candidates were their chosen ones. Their choice is the one that fits best into their identity politics divide and conquer strategies at that moment. After 8 years of a fake Negro, a fake Aryan was just the ticket.
All this "lesser than evils" politics is for the little people.
 

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Your posts, in my view are among the most astute and spot-on of any on GIM2. And I do mean that.
Thank you for the compliment.
....and the feeling is mutual. I feel the same about yours.


But come on Joe, this one makes no sense. It's like asserting that without an exception the rule is not valid. Clearly not an argument that you would want to take very far.

I know you can do better.
Yea, I could have worded it differently, but what I was getting at is that it's my opinion that if all elections are rigged, it just wasn't rigged enough for the desired outcome this time. Ie: Trump is an exception if it's truly the way hoarder would have us believe.

If everything and everyone in any position of power is seemingly pushing for a future prog/dem utopia, it just doesn't make any sense to intentionally let someone like Trump become POTUS.



All the candidates were their chosen ones. Their choice is the one that fits best into their identity politics divide and conquer strategies at that moment.
So again, you honestly believe that the hag wasn't supposed to win?


After 8 years of a fake Negro, a fake Aryan was just the ticket.
Only problem with that comparison is that Trump is neither a real nor a fake aryan.
 

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So again, you honestly believe that the hag wasn't supposed to win?
Honestly. If TPTB wanted her to win, she would have won.
Only problem with that comparison is that Trump is neither a real nor a fake aryan.
His hair is fake. thirty years ago he had reddish brown hair. Now he has identity politics hair. He is quite an actor.
 

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No. Politics is NOT the problem. The real problem IS government. Doesn't matter if it is a king, a president, a prime minister, a shah, a sheik, any kind of parliamentary system (includes congress/committees/tribunal). The basis of your "political/governmental ideology" whether, capitalist, communist, socialist, socialist, fascist, etc.. Doesn't matter what party membership or affiliations one claims or practices. The truth is that NO man or woman is either fit or capable to rule over another man or woman.

Law is also a failure, including the law of God. Put correctly, both men and angels have failed miserably in obeying, observing, living, practicing the law. Law does NOT stop evil, wickedness, corruption, trespass and any and all associated crimes or conjured crimes. Read your bible you Christians. Only one ever succeeded to fulfill God's law and he was crucified for it. From Abraham to Paul ALL who were God's prophets, His spokesmen here on earth, ALL of them failed because of that inherent sin nature that ALL men have had since the day Adam died in the Garden. In conclusion of the law of both man and God Paul wrote in Timothy 1:8 that "But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;". Do notice that the first word after the comma in that phrase is the condition upon which the law is predicated...if... That small, dinky little word is simply HUGE. It is the fulcrum upon which the understanding of ALL law, God's and man's is balanced. It is the condition that absolutely must be met in order to achieve the balance and order promised by observing, adhering to, using, practicing the law... IF a man use it lawfully. Seeing that ALL men have sin nature, just how can you reasonably expect that man will use ANY law lawfully? This is why both God's and man's law has repeatedly been proven a failure. Remember, Lucifer was an angel, the angel of light, the bright and morning star. He then rebelled against God and with his sedition and rebellion he took a third of the angels of heaven with him. What did the law do to stop this? Lucifer got the law directly from the mouth of God Himself. No worries about mistranslations. No possibility at all of corruption by the hands of men incapable of evading their sin nature. yet he rebelled AND found followers to go with him.

Moreover, law is merely an instructor in what IS acceptable conduct and it lays out the price one must pay, the recompense that will be exacted for one's failure to observe and adhere to that law made evident by one's actions. Judgment is applying that price to be exacted for those actions that that do not align with the appropriate and relevant law(s). NO ONE can escape the law. As a man sows, so also shall he reap. The more modern reiteration of this wisdom is "what goes around, comes around". This is also understood as "karma". This requires time but, you can absolutely rest assured that the price as defined in the law of God WILL be exacted. God, being THE sovereign, can and often does extend mercy to those who have fallen short of the law.

The state is often the administrator of the law of man within the state (kingdom/caliphate/tribe/etc.). This is fine IF a people can trust that the state will administer their law without regard to persons. This means their social status(rich/poor/well connected/not connected at all) or their "political" status by however status determined within that country. Q/HRC/BHO/Comeny/Brennan/et al/Trump vs. you/me/next door neighbor/some veteran in California/ some mechanic in Maine/ some homeless dude in Indianapolis/whoever. ALL must be treated the same before the law. Failure to do this by the state introduces corruption and is a seed of evil planted widely in the population. This ultimately makes the law within that state a law of no effect. Why? It's just like how a tree dies from the top down, the "priveleged" in society do not get the consequences of the law then the lower levels of society feel that what's good for the goose is good for the gander until you end up with something that looks quite similar to today's America.

Yes, the law IS good, IF a man use it LAWFULLY. When used otherwise it all goes to hell.
 

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Yea, I could have worded it differently, but what I was getting at is that it's my opinion that if all elections are rigged, it just wasn't rigged enough for the desired outcome this time. Ie: Trump is an exception if it's truly the way hoarder would have us believe.

If everything and everyone in any position of power is seemingly pushing for a future prog/dem utopia, it just doesn't make any sense to intentionally let someone like Trump become POTUS.
This is what I believed from day one. I believe the peasants came together, certainly without an organized grand design, to tell the rulers to FO - that we'd had enough. Obama could sling it like no other. His abilitiy to B$, lie, and remain believable was unparalleled . The fact that he could flaunt his blackness was perfect. Imagine a white candidate flaunting his/her whiteness. Hillary, on the other hand, was as phony as a three dollar bill - everyone saw through her pathetic pandering campaign. She reeked of death. Other than your usual run-of-the-mill hollywood pussies and feminazis, the rest of the world despised her - and Bill contributed to it.

Trump was a fluke. I think he decided to run in earnest when people began openly laughing at the possibility of him getting elected. I watched him sitting in an audience where some douche bag comedian was dogging him. The look on his face said it all.

He's certainly no savior, but he's just what we needed at the time, and precisely what we need now. I've said this many times. We are truly under siege. Our one party banana republic govt, pretending to be a two party democracy is toast. It's not salvageable. There is/was no other RINO c*nt who stood tall enough to kiss his ass.

We have a far left, domestic terrorist enemy, soon to be Muslim/Sharia law compliant, and even more openly anti-male, anti-white, and anti-Christian. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It's that simple. Stop whining. Stop dissecting every f*cking instance of what's going on behind the scenes. Get ready for the physical assault on what's left of us and our constitution. If T can stay afloat and get reelected in 2020, and I believe he can, his (and our) next four years are going to be brutal.

Look at the democrat front runners who will run against him. In anyone's wildest dreams we couldn't have come up with a more pathetic group of degenerates. That doesn't mean a landslide for T. They'll outdo themselves this time around. I wouldn't put anything past them. If any of them ever had a soul, they sold it years ago - and I mean that most literally. Legalizing the murder of new born babies is their latest master piece and telling allegiance to evil. Tell me there's anything left for them to do that can top that ...
 
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^^^^^^^^
Fantastic Post!!!
 

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I've voted against incumbents for the last 20 years ... I could use some help.
I have done the same, for as long or maybe even longer, plus I also vote NO on any measure that creates or increases taxes.
 

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Honestly. If TPTB wanted her to win, she would have won.
If things are really that well controlled, you should just give up and keep your head down, because you are describing some all-powerful thing that obviously cannot be beaten. IMHO, that's kind of a a defeatist attitude, but I suppose that's your Right if you wanna look at it that way.


His hair is fake. thirty years ago he had reddish brown hair. Now he has identity politics hair.
He's also 70. How many 70 yo's have the exact same color hair they had at 40?
....and his hair is how you compare him to Obozo?


I'd contend that Trump represents the high point for POTUS's in at least the past 50 years.
 

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Trump was a fluke. I think he decided to run in earnest when people began openly laughing at the possibility of him getting elected. I watched him sitting in an audience where some douche bag comedian was dogging him.
You talkin' about Seth Meyers and Obozo when they roasted Trump at the correspondents ball in 2011?



 

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If things are really that well controlled, you should just give up and keep your head down, because you are describing some all-powerful thing that obviously cannot be beaten. IMHO, that's kind of a a defeatist attitude, but I suppose that's your Right if you wanna look at it that way.
There is a difference between defeatist and realist.
He's also 70. How many 70 yo's have the exact same color hair they had at 40?
His real hair color at 70 is white. The artificial color is for identity politics.
I'd contend that Trump represents the high point for POTUS's in at least the past 50 years.
Best act in 50 years yes, but still an act.
 

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There is a difference between defeatist and realist.
The reality of what you are describing is defeatist. You're saying that it's impossible for any outcome other than what our overlords have already decided for us. That it's all an illusion for us little people.

You're insinuating that it's a futile effort to even hope for an honest outcome. IMHO, that's a defeatist attitude.


His real hair color at 70 is white. The artificial color is for identity politics.
A lot of people dye their hair in their senior years. If Trump does too, I don't really care. He could have green hair for all I care.
 

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Trump started this "run" in 1980......

Fluke? I don't think so.
 

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Gotta do more than vote for president.

Trump couldn’t even get a bill for wall funding while his own party had both houses.

A big problem with politics is that many people think the president is a king.
 

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A big problem with politics is that many people think the president is a king.
Technically correct. In reality, his own party is full of traitors.
Yep. Even right here on this forum I've read how it'd have been a slam dunk for Trump to have completely turned the ship in the right direction in his first 30 days.
.....and that I should consider him a traitor because he didn't do that. lol
 

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Yep. Even right here on this forum I've read how it'd have been a slam dunk for Trump to have completely turned the ship in the right direction in his first 30 days.
.....and that I should consider him a traitor because he didn't do that. lol
That's right, JK. It's amazing what power the truth holds. We have 500 leaders or more who refuse to tell the truth about how the laws of physics can not be suspended, or about how 6 past presidents or almost presidents were shot by bankers or how 50 thousand young soldiers died for absolutely nothing but business or how our empire experiments on people and is involved in a secret process to enslave Americans. Our gov't and gov'ts around the world not only have admitted to torture and abuses of power but do them without fear.

A gov't which fears it's people is freedom, a people who fear their gov't is tyranny.

But no empire can lose it's politics, nor gov't when there's other empires looming. The truth is the only way out of this mess for Americans and essentially the globe. The truth is still right there, the truth could have been told, what's been stolen could be retrieved. Even treason trials could have started within 30 days.
 
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Yep. Even right here on this forum I've read how it'd have been a slam dunk for Trump to have completely turned the ship in the right direction in his first 30 days.
.....and that I should consider him a traitor because he didn't do that. lol
I wasn't agreeing that it could be done, but rather pointing out the futility of thinking it could happen that quickly.


Even treason trials could have started within 30 days.
You must think POTUS is a dictator, huh? Because even you should know that the POTUS cannot put someone on trial for treason.
....and you never addressed this post where I questioned how in one thread you say the ship could be turned in 30 days, but then in another you say how it'll be more difficult than anyone can imagine. If something is "harder than anyone can imagine", I have a hard time imagining that anyone could turn it around in a mere 30 days. Which is it? Easy enough to turn in 30 days, or harder than anyone can imagine?
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/ron-paul-thread.236142/post-1580219

Getting sound money and dissolving the parasitic capabilities which have been built into the system over decades is going to be much more difficult than anyone can imagine. I don't actually think there's enough "tuned in" people left, RP is getting really up there in age and the tricks and trump cards which TPTB hold are plentiful and powerful.
If we don't even have enough "tuned in" people to start "dissolving the parasitic capabilities" that's been built up in gov over the decades, how can you think it possible for any one person to suddenly be able to put all the parasites on trial? IMHO, 30 days counts as "suddenly".
....and for one guy to do that, would mean we have a dictator. News Flash! We don't have a dictator. Therefor it won't be happening in 30 days.





A gov't which fears it's people is freedom, a people who fear their gov't is tyranny.
I agree.