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Where are pillosi, schitt, upchuck shulmer, et al, now that impeachment failed. Are they working with sorass & fanning the fire ?
 

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I hear ya, but with all the billions/trillions flying around right now, I think that gas is not the right measuring stick.
Our dollar is starting to look like Zimbabwe, Venezuela, the old German mark....
Agreed, but not just our dollar. Our entire society. As much as we all say we don't want communism/socialism (Whatever name you want to give it) we already have it.
We have a central government and a central bank. The central government controls the flow of money, the curriculum for our schools and just about every other facet of society and at the same time we get the communist graduated tax system so very few can rise to the top.
Where's the free market price discovery? Housing crash? No problem the central planners step in with a plan to save the market.. The markets do need saving but the saving they need is for the central planners to step back, let things correct so that the next leg up can be a healthy one. Pushing prices higher with inflation and then preventing the fall of the same prices does nothing to help the next generation. They are born into higher prices with similar salaries as last generation if they are lucky. This is where we are today and the reason the Gov wants to give away money IMO. The only solution for ever rising prices is more money thrown into the system. If salaries wont increase along with inflation then the only solution is to get money into the hands of the masses so they can keep up the illusion of prosperity.

Ok my mid day rant is over. :)..
 

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Where are pillosi, schitt, upchuck shulmer, et al, now that impeachment failed. Are they working with sorass & fanning the fire ?
I think they were ordered by Ca to stay home. they are over 65 ya know. :) Well, pelosi is anyway. Shumer not sure even though he is from NY anyway. Oh and Schiff is probably in some meth house with is gay buddies.
 

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You make good sense & I agree, BUT there has to be a limit !
 

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@Scorp - not sure I buy the Fed/CBs trying to de-leverage...the nature of the system is for it to grow or die...

We are all wondering whats going on out of sight...behind the scenes...

My theory is that it has to do with Deutsche Bank and their ungodly amount of derivatives...

And with the entire global economy grinding down...surely its gonna have a negative effect on derivatives? I would think so...if they are called to perform and cant...then what?
 

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It's sure not about somebody sneezing and coughing. That is obvious to most. It might be multiple angles designed to take down Trump and the USA at the same time? The democrats sold out to China long ago and would be the perfect partner to assist with a takeover.
 

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YUP !

“And just like that, the government controls all sporting events, concerts, jobs, colleges, medical facilities, whether or not you can leave your house, controls depleted resources such as toilet paper and food, controls all travel…. And you guys wonder why they develop and use viruses to scare the public. They now control you and everything about your life. See how easy it was? Mass panic, hysteria, complete control of, literally the world. Over a virus. One that has an extremely high survival rate. All freedom has been limited overnight. See how easy that was?”
 

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How have I not thought of this earlier, this is the Hegelian dialectic at its worst:

- Create the problem (a non-existent or trivial virus)
- Generate the outrage and more importantly, fear
- Offer the solution and cure.

We're the white hats, we always were. It's time to put them on.
 

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At 5:20 he destroys his credibility. I know Costa Mesa & Newport Beach like all of you know the palm of your hand !!!
Why does he say Mother's in Newport Beach. Mother's is in Costa Mesa !! But to say "Newport Beach" is much more prestigious !!
Mothers Market & Kitchen
1890 Newport Blvd, Costa Mesa, CA 92627-2800
+1 949-642-2154

I guess I am picking the fly shit out of the pepper because he also wants an hour of my/our time to say what could be said in a much shorter time !
Yeah I've seen that guy he tries to push his understanding of law as if he's some kind of Guru. He's just running a business, his intent =$$$
 

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It's sure not about somebody sneezing and coughing. That is obvious to most. It might be multiple angles designed to take down Trump and the USA at the same time? The democrats sold out to China long ago and would be the perfect partner to assist with a takeover.
Looks like thats going to backfire on them as well then cuz trump and company is killing it as far as their response goes. Drive through testing in less than a week, cut checks to everyone, even the dems. How are they not going to love that? Dems get to stay home and play video games and eat frozen pizza. Even they will be voting for trump.
 

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It's like a cartoon gone bad.
Check out Carl and some math:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238518

NOTE: I quit reading him some months ago as he had ( as you can see ) gotten a bit ....how you say..." angry ".
And lemme tell ya....you can get all wrapped up in this stuff and never look at a single cloud during the day.
But what he is talking about....the way we are leveraged up...yupper..
 

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Check out Carl and some math:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238518

NOTE: I quit reading him some months ago as he had ( as you can see ) gotten a bit ....how you say..." angry ".
And lemme tell ya....you can get all wrapped up in this stuff and never look at a single cloud during the day.
But what he is talking about....the way we are leveraged up...yupper..
We'll know for sure soon since we are behind many other countries so we get the advantage of seeing how this plays out there first.
 

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Hystck

I read that and am not impressed,
the reality is, this isn't that big a deal, that deadly that whatever,

it is not a major medical concern IMO,

so what is it really? To me, it has nothing to do with his math or his projections,
 

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I read that and am not impressed,
the reality is, this isn't that big a deal, that deadly that whatever,
it is not a major medical concern IMO,
so what is it really? To me, it has nothing to do with his math or his projections,
Yeah 10 4. Get it on his people math. Interesting square box.
Depends on circulation more IMO. And range of peeps geographically.
But businesses leveraged up. That math. Yeah, I can agree with it more being from down here.
Some guys onna conf call today and email train have sphincters already pinched. Big pinch.
We discussed in briefly ( their comments without saying it ) at the shop, but we do not do a LOC ever and the others all do.
He goes on about it in perhaps another post more and he has been for some time. For years. Really black and white stuff.
Usually he was some time behind GIM. Just thought I would check him out today.
Like I said, too much ranting he became for me, I quit going there completely.
So many super small business peeps here and such a service economy, gonna be a tough go for many.
Complete destruction ? man theres a line of them writing about that. Quit Willie on that also,
and a bunch of others.
Just another guy carrying on about what we have talked about.
But just offering it up.
OTOH, as far as medical, like anything, depends on your immune system and the locale it hits.
Pneumonia, from personal experience experience, is not a wanna repeat activity.
 

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ohhh sure,
I need to face reality, as in it doesn't matter what I think of it, as the slaves are getting all worked up

won't go into it, but dealing with that right now as the natives are getting restless
 

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ohhh sure,
I need to face reality, as in it doesn't matter what I think of it, as the slaves are getting all worked up
won't go into it, but dealing with that right now as the natives are getting restless
Not sure what you are saying. But am reading into it, or trying to ....
What is the reality ? And can we even know ?
And does it matter really ? What we think ?
Nope. At least not beyond us for the most part.
Right here, right now, they are shutting stuff down.
Lots of it.
Peeps, for the most part, are following along.
Tomorrow is another day.
Back then.
 

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Anyone watch trumps presser earlier today or on any of the previous days for that matter? If so these are things that come to mind for me.

Are these people around the President all immune to this virus? Are they all quarentined? Both the President and VP standing there together. What if they both get infected and die? Pelosi is then President? Just seems strange to have all the top power at the podium 12 inches a[art during a pandemic outbreak..
 

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Anyone watch trumps presser earlier today or on any of the previous days for that matter? If so these are things that come to mind for me.

Are these people around the President all immune to this virus? Are they all quarentined? Both the President and VP standing there together. What if they both get infected and die? Pelosi is then President? Just seems strange to have all the top power at the podium 12 inches a[art during a pandemic outbreak..
CL, that is a damned good point - They fly in separate planes for just that reason ! :2 thumbs up::totally steamed::gracious:
 

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Exactly. And where Piglosi?
 

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Relax and watch Outbreak on netflix.
I was gonna watch contagion on you tube but they wanted 3 bucks or some shit. LOL. I'm cheap like that. Maybe Amazon prime has it. :) I got rid of netflix when they gave Obama a huge movie deal or whatever it was.
 
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I have become so sick and tired of the 24/7 sludge pump known as MSM, I've ripped the antenna off the roof of the house. They can keep their fear machine, I'm done with it. Mum's gone one step further and thrown the TV out (I put it on the nature strip in front of her house and it was gone 10 minutes later). Considering the devastation the media and their govco partners in crime have wreaked upon the world, it's the least I could do.

How are (some of) you guys even remotely hopeful of "white hats to the rescue"? Maybe I'm blind to it, I don't know but I don't see a single scrap of evidence that the good guys are even still around, let alone in a position to be taking care of the rodent infestation. The MIC has put so many white hats into the ground over the past near on 80 years, are any left?
 

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Man, between this and hurricanes....
"Hyporama"

Bars shut down.
Almost all restaurants take out only.
If you don't comply, they bring plywood and board you up.
Triage type giant ass tents set up in front of hospitals.
All the worker peeps freaking out about their jobs ( understandable )
President tweeting out " don't worry, China virus not your fault $ coming your way "
Holy Rat Feathers Bat Man !!
 

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For those of you not keeping score, I am. I started tracking the statistics yesterday.
A few observations.....bearing in mind that testing and tracking methods vary geographically......

........the infection rate spiked spiked worldwide to over 2,000 cases per hour early this morning.

........mortality worldwide is 4.0%, but only 1.8% in the USA. The USA has reported only around 6,400 cases, out of over 200,000 worldwide.

.......recovery rates are showing an extreme lag relative to newly reported infections, which suggests that they are incomplete and cannot be relied on; for example, in my own state, there have been no deaths but only 1 recovery and those figures have not changed in over 24 hours. It may be that reported recoveries are being delayed until a person's quarantine period ends, even if they are symptom free. Or, not reported at all, due to poor follow-through.

The big question mark is China. New case reports have flattened to nearly nothing, but I wouldn't believe anything coming from that country. At some point, I'm going to break out China from the worldwide numbers to get a more credible idea of what is happening.

EDIT. forgot to mention my take-away from all of this, the reaction of equity markets to this is totally out of proportion to the impact of the virus itself. The actual case numbers could be higher or lower than what is reported for a variety of reasons, but the slaughter in the markets doesn't make sense. And, oil at $24 a barrel is ludicrous.
 
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I posted this on another thread already...

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6201/text

Seems " Odd " to me that this bill was introduced like a week ago,
and it could not have been just conjured up out of thin air ( like fiat ) or at the flick of a finger
sos it had to be actually penned and typed up some ( debatable ) time before all of these " shut downs"

See where I am going here ???
 

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I have become so sick and tired of the 24/7 sludge pump known as MSM, I've ripped the antenna off the roof of the house. They can keep their fear machine, I'm done with it. Mum's gone one step further and thrown the TV out (I put it on the nature strip in front of her house and it was gone 10 minutes later). Considering the devastation the media and their govco partners in crime have wreaked upon the world, it's the least I could do.

How are (some of) you guys even remotely hopeful of "white hats to the rescue"? Maybe I'm blind to it, I don't know but I don't see a single scrap of evidence that the good guys are even still around, let alone in a position to be taking care of the rodent infestation. The MIC has put so many white hats into the ground over the past near on 80 years, are any left?
Patience brother, patience....we'll know one way or the other in 2 weeks or less. Can you hold out that long? Starting last Wednesday the table is still being set.
 
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I posted this on another thread already...

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6201/text

Seems " Odd " to me that this bill was introduced like a week ago,
and it could not have been just conjured up out of thin air ( like fiat ) or at the flick of a finger
sos it had to be actually penned and typed up some ( debatable ) time before all of these " shut downs"

See where I am going here ???
yep... Families first act. LMAO.. That means families last and corporations first so they can then take their cut and send the big to the critters who wrote them the check.. Don't have time to read it now but will when I get home.. AEP called. Emergency power outage within the hour.
 

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yep... Families first act. LMAO.. That means families last and corporations first so they can then take their cut and send the big to the critters who wrote them the check.. Don't have time to read it now but will when I get home.. AEP called. Emergency power outage within the hour.
The plot thickens...
 

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Looks like thats going to backfire on them as well then cuz trump and company is killing it as far as their response goes. Drive through testing in less than a week, cut checks to everyone, even the dems. How are they not going to love that? Dems get to stay home and play video games and eat frozen pizza. Even they will be voting for trump.
Then please explain to me why I am working my ass off harder than ever?
 

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Then please explain to me why I am working my ass off harder than ever?
Because they are taking more from you, than ever before. Someone has to pay for all the FREE SHIT !!
 

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NOW they are sending messages of future blackouts ? :don't    know2::don't    know2::don't    know2:
What is that all about ?
Apparently they had to replace a pole somewhere.. All is well. :)