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I'm rehashing some stuff I have already posted. I'm trying to put myself in his shoes.
Guys very wealthy and can do or have whatever he wants. No specification on his net worth that I have heard yet. He liked to gamble and drink. He was on Valium. Owned numerous homes and properties allegedly.

Poor upbringing, Dad was a bank robber. Mom was a secretary raising 4 kids.He goes to college (I assume to be an accountant) Gets out and gets a job at the PO, then the IRS and then 18 months with lockheed martin..

Thats all that has been discussed about his employment history as far as I know.

11 years later he's a multimillionaire gambling a million a year at the casinos.

I know I posted earlier that he probably had student loan debt when he got out of college but now that I think about it he could have easily worked through the summer and put himself through college. It was the early 70's and college was much less expensive back then.

Assuming he was debt free after college, how much did the PO pay at the time ? 80 bucks a week with terrible inflation in the 70's. By all accounts the 70's were not an easy time. 2 years with the IRS and 18 months with LM. None of which would have paid a lot. Certainly not enough to start buying apartment complexes.
He could have had investors. Dad could have hidden some money from the bank robberies. Not sure if it was all recovered or not. regardless. 11 years after leaving lockheed Martin, he's rolling into the casinos dropping a million a year.
He has 3 houses, 2 planes and an untold number of apartments.. I wonder if any of those are empty with even more stuff..
His brother is quirky/sketchy and IMO knows more than he's telling to the media. I suspect there was some drug involvement as well. Probably running drugs or washing cash for others through his apartment buildings. Brother says they would buy them and go fix them up and everyone was happy because they got cheap rent. Maybe he charged a little but padded the books with cash from a drug business. Charged like 400 a month but put 1000 a month on the books or something.

What else makes sense? Is there really that much money in rentals? Enough to fund a million a year gambling habit plus all his other "Hobbies"
He has to have a mortgage on that plus repairs and renovations. Time frame was 86 to 97.. How many apartments would be needed to come up with that much income after taxes? IIRC this was in the LA area according to one of the interviews his brother did. I guess it is possible that real estate went up considerably out there during this period but I lived on the east cost so really have no idea.

So by 97 he's already made it and is gambling and traveling around the world. Then 1 year ago or so he buys a shitload of guns for some reason and 11 months later we have this.

His brother says no political affiliation but i have seen someone post he was registered as a demorat in FL. No idea if that's real or not. Even if he was a D Hillary didn't lose until a month after he bought the guns. If this was politically motivated it doesn't make sense that he started buying guns in Oct of 2016.
A FF to take away our guns? My guess is they might get the bump stocks at most so a huge loss if that's what the intent was.
syphillus rotting his brain? Other meds affecting his thoughts?

ISIS? I dunno, do you throw away what life you have left for a cause when your 64?

His filipina GF. Says she didnt know anything? Hard to believe but just in case I would bug her phone and family as well to see what they really know. Same with the brother as I said in the other thread.

So far to me it seems like meds and a very long period of pre meditation. I just cant imagine giving up everything for a cause or a woman unless he was broke with nothing left to lose.. I have heard here before thats when people lose it, when they have nothing left to lose.

Anyone else have some thoughts on this?
 

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Nevada is mob controlled. Vegas is the mob's capitol. This guy made unaccountable millions. Mob connected? Maybe he was slipping and therefore a liability to his mob buddies and it fell upon him to be the sacrificial patsy. Seems as though there are many benefits to our overlords for this tragedy. I can't imagine this going down without mob knowledge (cooperation) in one of the most corrupt, survaled, contrived places on this planet
 

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Nevada is mob controlled. Vegas is the mob's capitol. This guy made unaccountable millions. Mob connected? Maybe he was slipping and therefore a liability to his mob buddies and it fell upon him to be the sacrificial patsy. Seems as though there are many benefits to our overlords for this tragedy. I can't imagine this going down without mob knowledge (cooperation) in one of the most corrupt, survaled, contrived places on this planet
How does this help the mob though? Nothing they're telling us makes any sense
 

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Perhaps Paddock thought he was part of a government sting operation. For example, maybe someone asked Paddock to buy the weapons to sell them to ISIS. Paddock, might have thought they would come in and arrest the ISIS operatives, and save him. But instead, they killed Paddock and used him as a patsy.

This would explain why ISIS claimed that Paddock had converted to Islam and carried out the Vegas attack in their name.
 

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CL,
Great post.
Math does not work.
For me anyways....
Did see interview with some guy who had read
his dads file.
Guess they did testing on the guy in prison and said
he was a psycho.
And that heredity got him.
Yeah....ok...perhaps....but wadda bout the math ?
Still.
So I dunno.
Thanks again for post.
Hysyck
 

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My view, for what's it worth, is the Cia/fbi is the legal enforcers of the deep state. The mob is the extra legal arm. The rat Chertoff sells his equipment, they disarm us, surveillance is increased, the sheep becomes more divided, fearful and confused, news outside the msm is curtailed, insiders once again make big money, etc.

One question in the back of my mind: the globalists have been patient and persevering since Christ was a corporal. Why the excelleration on their plan. It's almost frantic. What do they see coming that lit the fire under their asses?
 

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Is it Paddock that doesn't make sense or is it what the mass media says about him? I find that little of what the mass media says makes much sense, usually because some of it is made up and many important details are left out.
 

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Why the excelleration on their plan. It's almost frantic. What do they see coming that lit the fire under their asses?
My WAG - The Elite is getting older than dirt. Soros' bags under his eyes are becoming a second set of jowls. Junior Elite probably does not have the fire in the gut to pursue their elders' agenda as fervently. and
TRUMP has thrown a monkey wrench into their schedule / plan of attack. IMO
 

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Perhaps Paddock thought he was part of a government sting operation. For example, maybe someone asked Paddock to buy the weapons to sell them to ISIS. Paddock, might have thought they would come in and arrest the ISIS operatives, and save him. But instead, they killed Paddock and used him as a patsy.

This would explain why ISIS claimed that Paddock had converted to Islam and carried out the Vegas attack in their name.
I thought along the same line. But maybe he was a lone gun seller to bad folks. That would account for him having so much mula, and running the cash through the IRS as gambling winnings. Problem no casino would allow him to make millions. They keep records of big winners and politely escort you out when you sit at the blackjack table. Wanna play the slots, well fine.

Maybe the GF was the setup person for him. Nothing real big time, but enough to accumulate quite a bankroll over 5-10 years. Maybe ISIS was involved (straw man) in the small buy, to arm up a cell or two, and what he had in the room was just samples, (as he had plenty more at home) or a small purchase. The calibers ranged from 22lr up to .308 different scopes and add on's. Wouldn't be hard for someone to buy 40+ weapons in a year traveling around the country buying. This would also back up the reason he traveled so much. A lone dealer would have to travel a lot to build up creditably.

Either way I believe he was dead long before the shooting started, because he was a lone runner with no backup, that's why he sent the GF away to a safe place with 100k in insurance money.

As much as I like the idea of the CIA/FBI using him for a patsy, there are many small gun movers out there who have no connection to the gov.

Bottom line, he was just a successful small time dealer. It doesn't have to be some big time conspiracy thing.
 

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.............Bottom line, he was just a successful small time dealer. It doesn't have to be some big time conspiracy thing.
That's takes for granted the other casino shootings didn't happen and the two documented preshooting warnings (one by the woman in the concert crowd and the other by the fellow who posted three warnings about the shooting along with the reason it was to happen) were untrue. The media's quickly conforming to the false narratives in unison also suggests power at play. Also perhaps the casino owner that dumped his stock was merely lucky.
If they can get rid of Trump I bet there will be a big mall shooting followed by the event that triggers martial law. They're moving fast now
 

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Thanks for all the replies.
His brother in one of the interviews (There are 2. One for about 10 minutes the other for about 30 minutes) says they were into something but he was just smart enough to not get caught and basically had dumber people under him.

I'm trying to avoid the tin foil hat conspiracies at this point. The main reason for that is if it were a conspiracy or Gov op then certainly they would be pushing that hard already. Instead we have nothing. They have nothing to give us either.

Arms deal gone bad? Anyone can go to a gun show and buy those guns anyday of the week so he's not really needed for that. Also why go to the trouble of bringing all that gear up to the 32nd floor along with all that ammo when they could drive out the the desert or a warehouse or any number of better places.

His brother also stresses that he was highly intelligent and there is no reason he couldn't plan and execute this on his own. If this is some coverup then the only conclusion would be they want to do a gun grab but if that was the case they would have done it when Obama was in office and the dems had control.

Toxicology should have been back by now.
I'm still leaning towards the official story that they have nothing yet. If they really wanted to push a narrative they would have done it already so they could move onto the next news cycle and put this behind us all.

I'll keep an open mind on all of this since they haven't really given us much to go on but I am leaning towards him just being a nut job like his dad and it appears his brother as well.

In the 2nd interview is his brother on coke?
 

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That's takes for granted the other casino shootings didn't happen and the two documented preshooting warnings (one by the woman in the concert crowd and the other by the fellow who posted three warnings about the shooting along with the reason it was to happen) were untrue. The media's quickly conforming to the false narratives in unison also suggests power at play. Also perhaps the casino owner that dumped his stock was merely lucky.
If they can get rid of Trump I bet there will be a big mall shooting followed by the event that triggers martial law. They're moving fast now
Yea I saw a post on that. That was posted around sept 11th I think. Should definitely be given some credibility. The girl may have been the girl with him before all this went down.. Gives her 10k to spend the weekend with him and go out and warn others of their impending doom. Then again its Vegas and lots of crazies out there.
 

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Crime scene photo. Notice the gun over one of his legs? Maybe moved by an investigator but I'm guessing it was how this was all found. Also looks like the gun he used to off himself is above his head. Arms by his side. I'm not an expert in this sort of stuff so is that typical? Do your arms just default back to your side once you pull the trigger? The gun ending up above his head is not where I would expect it either but again I am no expert.

This is only 1 room of course and I haven't seen any photos of the other room. I imagine there's plenty of guns and ammo over there as well.
Where's the cpu's hooked up to the cameras he had that were monitoring the halls?
I'm sure there are more photos and this is a very incomplete picture of the scene. I also dont think these were leaked I think they were sold, probably for very big money. The next police officer to retire and suddenly buy a nice fishing boat that he arrives at in his new corvette would be the likely leaker. :)
One thing that's puzzeled me is why did he stop? He went through all this trouble to bring everything up, he still had plenty of ammo as it looks like he had mags all stacked and ready to go.
Police say he may have had an escape plan, in his mind anyway. But then he offs himself instead?

Then we have the security guard.. No interviews with him by the media thus far. Seems like that would be a huge witness to interview but maybe he's declining.
Was he armed? He went up because there was an alarm saying the door was ajar on Pollacks room. (A slip up by Pollack? )
Guard gets there and pollack shoots him in the leg. so the guard just sits out in the hall while Pollack goes on a shooting spree? Doesn't try to flee or get to a safe place? I don't know the answers since there was no interview that I can find.
Hopefully in the coming weeks we get an interview from the GF, the security guard, photos of the girl he was with and the toxicology report. By next week there should also be some info from his computer and phones.

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Once again, CL, you bring up a lot of good points. I'm still pretty big into tin foil hat territory on this one, though. There's just too much stuff that doesn't make sense to me, even for a lone crazy boy nut job theory. Especially for lcbnj theory.

Have you listened to the audio of the police chatter when they arrived on the scene? Somebody posted that somewhere, a couple days ago. These guys, although human and subject to error, are trained police officers and were reporting gunfire emanating from multiple locations, including the 29th and 32nd floors, the middle and lower third of the Mandalay Bay tower, as well as several areas from the concert grounds. Then, there was the woman who was interviewed who adamantly claimed there were multiple shooters advancing through the crowd, firing automatic weapons at people as they moved through. Then, someone posted a video of a man in a security vest drawing up what looked to me like an SMG or machine pistol, like an UZI and firing into the crowd. Damn! That backed up that ladies claim.

Add to that the woman who was warning people in advance that they were all going to die. The fact that Paddock was a 64 year old senior citizen in modest physical condition, with no known special training. No obvious motive, but I guess there doesn't need to be an obvious motive, or that there isn't an unobvious motive. Who knows, maybe he's been visited by "aliens" in the middle of the night telling him he must murder as many people as possible and then eat a .38 hollow point.
 
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Great opening post Cigarlover.

This guy's apparent financial situation never made any sense to me either. As with any big and tragic news event there are always conspiracy theories. Many of those are tenuously based on reports from the news organizations and the government itself. But neither the news or government are credible sources for anything. Even photographic evidence is no longer credible. You can quickly be consumed by trying to follow every rabbit down their holes. Welcome to the information age. You are best served by only acknowledging word that agrees with your own sensibilities. The known fact is that lots of innocent people are dead and wounded.

To me it is entirely plausible that the wack-job pulled it off by himself. With his arsenal and position it is surprising to me that more were not killed or wounded. It was like shooting the proverbial fish in a barrel but with more fish. To label it as some sort of a setup / patsy situation is preposterous. And there is no sane person on the planet that would agree to doing a deal like this- even with a billions dollars up front- knowing there was a high likelihood of being killed at the end. If such a deal were made, the money and wherewithal to disappear before carrying out your end of the deal would be the reasonable way out. Of course it could have been drugs or even religious fervor- but those are other matters. I'm talking about a sane person here.

The guy was crazy.
 

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Pic of pistol is located 2ft north of his head in no blood yet blood smeared on it and the guy some how fell and landed under a gun coupled with arms being by side.....


History of bad pics on the internet taken as truth has me wondering if the put no effort into this fake cuz they figure no one would rationalize tge errors.
 

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Reading all the bits of this story, I ask myself, "what makes sense?" Here is a guy that has huge mystery income and is happy with his situation. There is no visible reason for him to do this. And it looks like he was set up to take the blame.

Stepping back, I will consider a different story. Often, it looks like a patsy is chosen because he exemplifies some type of person the authorities want us to hate or fear. The FBI setups are good examples of them picking dumb muslims/whatever and pushing them into sting operations. But this guy has nothing. Okay, maybe he was chosen BECAUSE there is nothing to pin on him. He was not an extremist, not someone who could show up in a database, ... nothing. Why would the conspirators choose a nobody?

There is one story that does fit with this. This is the hypothesis that this event was to create new security laws and get the people to accept new security systems everywhere. The story that "there is no way to know who will be the next" does fit here. If there is no way to predict the next mass killer, since it can be ANYONE AT ALL, then the only way to have security is to assume anyone and everyone is a suspect. And everyone must be watched closely.

I think the patsy was probably chosen from a short list, and he happened to be convenient at this place and time.
 

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That all makes a lot of sense, SE.
 

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I'm keeping an open mind on this disaster; the schlub was a professional gambler, no convictions; he is either the perfect jerk to set up or whack job to go postal.

Forensics and criminal science take time; the media is about entertaining and keeping the geriatrics and other suckers tuned to their channel. CNN, etc. is not about rigorous journalism, don't expect "BREAKING NEWS" of significance there.
 

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Pic of pistol is located 2ft north of his head in no blood yet blood smeared on it and the guy some how fell and landed under a gun coupled with arms being by side.....


History of bad pics on the internet taken as truth has me wondering if the put no effort into this fake cuz they figure no one would rationalize tge errors.
Those were the first things that stuck out to me in the photos too but as I said I am no expert.
I'd kinda like to here from a LEo with experience in suicides that this is normal. when Rig sets in the arms go to sides or something. barring that I kinda have my doubts.

Have you listened to the audio of the police chatter when they arrived on the scene? Somebody posted that somewhere, a couple days ago. These guys, although human and subject to error, are trained police officers and were reporting gunfire emanating from multiple locations, including the 29th and 32nd floors, the middle and lower third of the Mandalay Bay tower, as well as several areas from the concert grounds. Then, there was the woman who was interviewed who adamantly claimed there were multiple shooters advancing through the crowd, firing automatic weapons at people as they moved through. Then, someone posted a video of a man in a security vest drawing up what looked to me like an SMG or machine pistol, like an UZI and firing into the crowd. Damn! That backed up that ladies claim.

Add to that the woman who was warning people in advance that they were all going to die. The fact that Paddock was a 64 year old senior citizen in modest physical condition, with no known special training. No obvious motive, but I guess there doesn't need to be an obvious motive, or that there isn't an unobvious motive. Who knows, maybe he's been visited by "aliens" in the middle of the night telling him he must murder as many people as possible and then eat a .38 hollow point.
I think someone posted that this morning but I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I'll get around to it today.

I have seen the video of the guard in the crowd as well as the lady who says there was gunfire and a lockdown at bellagio.

First I will say it had to have been crazy. People who have never been around guns can imagine all sorts of things. Not saying it didn't happen but that rounds hitting all around and people dropping must have put many in shock.
The Guard video I don't think proves anything. I did address this on another site. No smoke from the barrel, he clearly pulls out a flashlight so he would have been firing with a flashlight in his hands as well. Kind of an awkward thing to do and why pull out the flashlight? Its not like he couldn't see the target.. If I was going to just shoot a bunch of random people I wouldn't need a flashlight, just pull the weapon and go for it. Also the gunfire wasn't close enough and no expended brass that I could see. Also no reports of people slipping on casing in the concert area. Not yet anyway, 22,000 people so I am sure the story is still unfolding if there is more to it.

The lady who posted a video at Bellagio and said it was on lockdown.. My questions there are how long were they on lockdown? Where's the evidence of any damage (I think she claimed the doors were being shot at or out). Same with all the other reports of shooters around town.
I know the bellagio is in some of the photos I have seen of mandalay bay and a map shows its about a block away. It's further away than the fuel tanks he was shooting at which were about 2000 feet IIRC.. Don't quote me on the ranges there. So lets say Bellagio is 3000 feet away. A little over 1/2 a mile.. If he shot in that direction then he can certainly have hit people and or buildings. I haven't seen any video from bellagio showing damage or gunfire to be able to determine how close it could have been. But again, people who have little or no weapons experience could certainly perceive that the gunfire was close, even from the echos from Mandalay bay.
So is a 3000 ft shot possible? With a 308 yes, absolutely. When I was on the rifle team in the military I was a 60 gunner and could take out 1200 meter targets with 1-2 round bursts. Tootin my own horn I was the best in the division and the division commander came over afterwards and said it was the best shooting he had ever seen.
So spraying a 308 down from the 32nd floor a block away could definitely be hitting bellagio if there was a clear shot which I admit I don't know if there was. If not a ricochet could still get down there with ease.

Yea the girl warning people is suspect for sure. Really surprised she hasn't been tracked down yet and she may be the same woman that spent time with him before all the shooting started. And again, I am still very surprised her photo isn't be plastered all over the media by now. If she had any involvement she's probably in Mx already.
 

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This was well planned for sure. Most heavy weapons were purchased a year in advance before the election even.

There is one story that does fit with this. This is the hypothesis that this event was to create new security laws and get the people to accept new security systems everywhere. The story that "there is no way to know who will be the next" does fit here. If there is no way to predict the next mass killer, since it can be ANYONE AT ALL, then the only way to have security is to assume anyone and everyone is a suspect. And everyone must be watched closely.

I think the patsy was probably chosen from a short list, and he happened to be convenient at this place and time.
I don't disagree here at all. The question then becomes was he CIA or what did the Gov have on him to pull this off? Possibly got caught up in a drug sting and said, you got a year to live however you want but in return we want xxxxxxx?
I'm going down the rabbit hole there and really want to avoid that as there are lots of holes we can go down. However it is strange that someone posted almost a month prior and warned of something big in LV. That and the girl that was with him and the girl that was warning peeps says there is something more to this story. Someone knew something.
 

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And another thing Cigarman sir, please stop calling Paddock a Pollack, it aint right to bring someone's nationality into the discussion. JMHO
Sometimes I get the stupidist things wrong.. TY. Changed the title.
 

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I say it was Bugsy Siegel done did it.
So, you are into the big conspiracy theory. Bugsy Siegel was reanimated by the CIA/FBI mad scientists and programmed ala MKUltra to pull off this caper, so nobody could figure out who actually done it. That's what I figured, too.
 

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The investigators are puzzled by two discoveries: First, a charger was found that does not match any of the cell phones that belonged to Stephen Paddock, the man who killed himself inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino after sending a barrage of bullets down on a crowd of 22,000 people below.

And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock’s car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room.
Might as well add these tidbits to the thread.. I think NBC was reporting this but in last nights briefing the sheriff denied knowing anything about the car and room being entered connection but I think they did confirm the phone charger was there.

I think this confirms there was a 2nd person. Could have been the girl or a hooker. Not uncommon in vegas. Would be unusual based on his weapons stash though but he could have hidden it in a closet for a short time..

The garage should have had cameras with time stamps but no photos were provided as well as no time info on when that all allegedly happened.
Strange there is no photos of anyone being released as a person of interest especially since his GF photos were plastered all over the place as soon as this went down.
I guess we have to wait for the next briefing to see whats up with these items.
 

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One more item in the photo. Whats that blue hose looking thing? Looks like a vacuum cleaner hose or something.
 

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Here is another idea for consideration. One shooter as a mass murderer is big news, scary news, a story that pushes buttons and can be fuel for the security state.

Many shooters can change the story to gang warfare or organized crime. What if a shootout between the Bloods and Crips resulted in dozens of deaths and hundreds of injuries? What would be the news story on that? Not so much, I think. How long did the news people cover that shootout in Texas with the bikers and cops?

If the goal is fear and security state, that is consistent with a story that it must have been ONE shooter.

Multiple shooters and multiple victims is probably seen as "just ordinary crime", still tragic, but not as scary.
 

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K, I want to know why his eyes din't bulge out. Then there is the blood. There is congealed blood that reflects light and blood that seeped into the carpet like wine. Oh and where are the brains?

K, lets fantasize he used the 9mm. A nine going through the softpalate should go through but the gas of the propellant will bulge the eyes out. If he did in fact use the 9 then why is there a rifle across his legs?

There are multiple things wrong with that picture and multiple things right. It is like two realities merged. Me?

The more I know about this event the more I am confused by what are supposed to be the facts.
 

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Nevada is mob controlled. Vegas is the mob's capitol. This guy made unaccountable millions. Mob connected? Maybe he was slipping and therefore a liability to his mob buddies and it fell upon him to be the sacrificial patsy. Seems as though there are many benefits to our overlords for this tragedy. I can't imagine this going down without mob knowledge (cooperation) in one of the most corrupt, survaled, contrived places on this planet
Add CIA to MOB and cover them both with piles of CASH.

This thing has agenda plastered all over it.

So, maybe fed.gov wants to see EVERYTHING going in and out of the casinos, including cash.

Then there is Occam's Razor:

Smart, rich guy wants to go out in a blaze of glory, meticulously plans everything, including the room and the musical venue for a particular day and time.

If simplest solution, then perhaps political leaning weighs heavily.

Why a country show with a predominantly white, republican demographic?

Why not a hip-hop show with a mixed race, democratic leaning audience?
 
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Crime scene photo. Notice the gun over one of his legs? ...

I'm sure there are more photos and this is a very incomplete picture of the scene. I also dont think these were leaked I think they were sold, probably for very big money..... he still had plenty of ammo as it looks like he had mags all stacked and ready to go......
Then we have the security guard.. No interviews with him by the media thus far. Seems like that would be a huge witness to interview but maybe he's declining.....
By next week there should also be some info from his computer and phones.

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Ladies and Gents of the board, I've seen BUMP STOCKS, and I thought about buying one years ago but changed my mine.
Of the photos of the room(s) and guns that have been released or "found" their way to the internet I only see ONE that COULD possibly be equip with a BUMP Stock ( on the floor, by the oval WTF, with the 50/60 round mag). I agree that the rifle w/ a bi-pod on the body is at such an angle I can not make heads or tails of the butt of that weapon.

BUMP Stock Front partial View:
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Diagram of BUMP Stock:
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If anyone finds or refers to other photos of the weaponry I greatly appreciate it.
Other wise as usual we have a LameStreamMedia and PROG politicians running their own agenda, AGAIN.
 

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1st interview.
Here's what I got from this one..
His name is Eric. He knew about the brothers GF and they have been together for aprox 2 years. He also knew she had a facebook but there's nothing on his since 2014. 3 years ago. Maybe he has some settings on so no one but friends can see his posts. Not even sure how FB works nowadays.
He has 13 FB friends but also has 5 phones in the house either including cells or plus cells.
During this interview at least 2 phones were going off, one was definitely his and [possibly the 2nd as well. Strange for a guy with only 13 friends.
He moved his brother to vegas about 2 years ago..
He says they aren't that close, talk once in awhile, makes it sound like the relationship is fairly distant.

At about the 4:15 mark he talks about his brothers guns and again at the 11:30 mark he asks "where the hell did he get machine guns."
He moved his brother to Vegas so he knew he only had maybe 1 long gun and a couple handguns.


So 2 years ago he moves to vegas and meets his GF. 1 year later he starts accumulating weapons and 1 year after that goes on a killing rampage..

2nd video one I am watching again now.. Its much longer, over 30 minutes.

I'll be back. :).
 

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Ladies and Gents of the board, I've seen BUMP STOCKS, and I thought about buying one years ago but changed my mine.
Of the photos of the room(s) and guns that have been released or "found" their way to the internet I only see ONE that COULD possibly be equip with a BUMP Stock ( on the floor, by the oval WTF, with the 50/60 round mag). I agree that the rifle w/ a bi-pod on the body is at such an angle I can not make heads or tails of the butt of that weapon.

BUMP Stock Front partial View:
View attachment 94358

Diagram of BUMP Stock:
View attachment 94359

If anyone finds or refers to other photos of the weaponry I greatly appreciate it.
Other wise as usual we have a LameStreamMedia and PROG politicians running their own agenda, AGAIN.
Good catch, I didnt even look for the bump stocks.
That oval looking thing I think is 2 chairs pushed together. Still curious about that blue hose on the floor.
 

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It's that ugly carpet that is bothering me. It looks to me like that would be the carpet in the second room he had. Where is the layout diagram of his rooms? I saw it somewhere but I can't relocate it. Photos of the entry to the main room shows a different floor. But I have seen no further photos of that room, only where the guns (and him) were found. If I recall correctly the swat team didn't 'discover' the second room for about twenty minutes.
If he was found dead in the second room that brings into question when did he shoot himself? And why didn't swat break in there sooner?

BF
 

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I saw an entire suit layout in IMAGES on STARTPAGE
 

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Crime scene photo. Notice the gun over one of his legs? Maybe moved by an investigator but I'm guessing it was how this was all found. Also looks like the gun he used to off himself is above his head. Arms by his side. I'm not an expert in this sort of stuff so is that typical? Do your arms just default back to your side once you pull the trigger? The gun ending up above his head is not where I would expect it either but again I am no expert.

This is only 1 room of course and I haven't seen any photos of the other room. I imagine there's plenty of guns and ammo over there as well.
Where's the cpu's hooked up to the cameras he had that were monitoring the halls?
I'm sure there are more photos and this is a very incomplete picture of the scene. I also dont think these were leaked I think they were sold, probably for very big money. The next police officer to retire and suddenly buy a nice fishing boat that he arrives at in his new corvette would be the likely leaker. :)
One thing that's puzzeled me is why did he stop? He went through all this trouble to bring everything up, he still had plenty of ammo as it looks like he had mags all stacked and ready to go.
Police say he may have had an escape plan, in his mind anyway. But then he offs himself instead?

Then we have the security guard.. No interviews with him by the media thus far. Seems like that would be a huge witness to interview but maybe he's declining.
Was he armed? He went up because there was an alarm saying the door was ajar on Pollacks room. (A slip up by Pollack? )
Guard gets there and pollack shoots him in the leg. so the guard just sits out in the hall while Pollack goes on a shooting spree? Doesn't try to flee or get to a safe place? I don't know the answers since there was no interview that I can find.
Hopefully in the coming weeks we get an interview from the GF, the security guard, photos of the girl he was with and the toxicology report. By next week there should also be some info from his computer and phones.

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Looks to me like he was obviously laying on the floor when he was shot in the mouth. No blood spatter anywhere but a pool of blood under his head.