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What Will You Do When the Toilet Paper Runs Out?

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What Will You Do When the Toilet Paper Runs Out?

January 10, 2016 By Jane 14 Comments


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Remember those Extreme Couponing shows where the participants had a wall full of toilet paper? They had the right idea! At least for me, I’d much rather waste a whole wall of my home with a mountain of toilet paper than think of doing without. However, in an extreme post-poop hits the fan world (get it? I said poop-hits-the-fan in a blog post about toilet paper and the end of the world!), eventually, even toilet paper is going to eventually run out for some of us.

For most of the world, an for most of history, toilet paper as we know it has not existed. There were forms showing up in the 14th century, but by in large, people used other ways of cleaning themselves than the handy dandy roll full of fluff. So let’s find some alternatives to toilet paper to begin getting in the mindset that we may not always have a little Charmin around to make things better.

The Family Cloth
Yep – you got it, wipes for the rest of us. You can make it from squares of flannel, old tshirts, thin bath towels, or other soft cloth that you like. Just sew the edges with a zig zag stitch for fabric that frays easily, or just use pinking shears for other fabrics if you don’t have a machine. You can store them in a box, and use dry for urine, and get them damp for the poo. Washing is easy as long as you wash the cloths in hot water (and if you use an oxy-detergent that will help more). However, if anyone in your family is sick, switch to regular TP for them or segregate those cloths for washing separately just to be sure not to cross-contaminate.

In our house, I use these exclusively as my menfolk are not quite ready to make the leap to cloth for themselves. But even with me using them for wet cleanup, we’ve cut our toilet paper useage dramatically.

There are discussions about how to store cloths that have been used for poo. Some suggest that storing in water bins might actually increase the number of harmful bacteria, and it’s better to store in a dry sack and wash a little more often. Of course, if you use the “bidet in a bottle” feature you’ll see below, you can cut down on the amount of really dirty cloths by rinsing first and then wiping.

Phone Books
Remember those photos of Grandma’s outhouse that had a Sears & Roebucks catalog hanging on the wall? It wasn’t just for browsing while you did your business. But since we don’t get those catalogs any longer, the best way to use phone book paper is to rip a page out, wad it up, unwrap it, wad it again, and unwrap it, etc. This allows for the starchy fibers to be broken down so that the paper is more pliable and more absorbent. It then becomes softer and a great alternative to toilet paper. You’ll think twice about looking at that phone book sitting on your front porch, won’t you?

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Bidet in a Bottle
With a little warm water, this can be an effective way to clean before using cloth to dry. It can also be used for women during their menstrual cycles and for post-partum care. I remember being given this bottle when I left the hospital after having my kids for post-partum relief and healing, but I really prefer this bidet in a bottle now as it gives a little more direction where needed. You can also get one that attaches to your toilet tank.

Nature, baby!
Yes, plants can be used in place of toilet paper. And if you have time to plant to provide for your family, this is the plant I’d choose! Lamb’s ear is really good for this application and can be found growing wild in a lot of places, (and is really great for other uses, like medicinal ones) but you can make do with any number of natural things to get the job done.

Use what you’ve got – your hands
In some culture, this simply the easiest and best way to handle things. Washing up after is mandatory – but in a situation where hot water, soap, or other disinfectants may not be available, this might not be the best option to keep from spreading germs. So plan accordingly.

Make Your Own Toilet Paper
This is a time intensive process, and it still requires you having access to paper products to recycle, but if you’re a hard core DIY’er and can’t imagine using one of the alternavies above, try this tutorial on making your own toilet paper!

CAN I KEEP MY PAPER?
Now, I’m not saying NOT to store paper products – in fact, I’m all for it for certain circumstances, but we need to think outside the box of toilet paper sitting in our storage area when it comes to terms of PREParedness and sustainability.

Some further reading:

So…. just how will you prepare for this eventuality?


You might also be interested — How to build your own emergency toilet!

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Bidet. Never understood the sense of buying hundreds of dollars of paper to wipe your ass and flush the money away.
 

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rabbits.........hmmm............recyclable TP,

bet Ponce didn't think of that one,
 

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In that scenario I will be far more worried about food, water and protection than wiping my ass.
 

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Well, I do stockpile toilet paper to be about a 6 months supply but also cut up old t-shirts into rags about a 6"x6" squares. Any of you remember the old cloth diaper pail with bleach? Grew up with them and was the oldest of six kids. Still a viable option whe the TP runs out.
 

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Are we really anticipating running out of toilet paper? I haven't seen a store with less than 5000 rolls laying around, and I assure you, companies will continue to produce them if we're buying
 

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it is fine with me if someone chooses not to store some tp....
let's say the walmart has been looted or burnt..
it's a month in for the disaster..
i'll bet lots of folks will be trading off gold/guns/gear/gasoline, whatever to get their bride some tp...
and when we make a deal, I won't be "shaking hands" to confirm the deal!!
 

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Water actually works.
From experience, don't use a plant from the jungle unless you have prior knowledge of the effects.
If you are from Honduras, a boulder will do, just spread wide.
 

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Are we really anticipating running out of toilet paper? I haven't seen a store with less than 5000 rolls laying around, and I assure you, companies will continue to produce them if we're buying

Venezuela running out of toilet paper
AP 6:48 a.m. EDT May 17, 2013
Price controls leading to shortages of essentials, including various foods.
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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — First milk, butter, coffee and cornmeal ran short. Now Venezuela is running out of the most basic of necessities — toilet paper.

Blaming political opponents for the shortfall, as it does for other shortages, the embattled socialist government says it will import 50 million rolls to boost supplies.

That was little comfort to consumers struggling to find toilet paper on Wednesday.

"This is the last straw," said Manuel Fagundes, a shopper hunting for tissue in downtown Caracas. "I'm 71 years old and this is the first time I've seen this."

One supermarket visited by The Associated Press in the capital on Wednesday was out of toilet paper. Another had just received a fresh batch, and it quickly filled up with shoppers as the word spread.

"I've been looking for it for two weeks," said Cristina Ramos. "I was told that they had some here and now I'm in line."

Economists say Venezuela's shortages stem from price controls meant to make basic goods available to the poorest parts of society and the government's controls on foreign currency.

"State-controlled prices — prices that are set below market-clearing price — always result in shortages. The shortage problem will only get worse, as it did over the years in the Soviet Union," said Steve Hanke, professor of economics at Johns Hopkins University.

President Nicolas Maduro, who was selected by the dying Hugo Chavez to carry on his "Bolivarian revolution," claims that anti-government forces, including the private sector, are causing the shortages in an effort to destabilize the country.

The government this week announced it would import 760,000 tons of food and 50 million rolls of toilet paper.

Commerce Minister Alejandro Fleming blamed the shortage of toilet tissue on "excessive demand" built up as a result of "a media campaign that has been generated to disrupt the country."

"The revolution will bring the country the equivalent of 50 million rolls of toilet paper," he was quoted as saying Tuesday by state news agency AVN. "We are going to saturate the market so that our people calm down."

Finance Minister Nelson Merentes said the government was also addressing the lack of foreign currency, which has resulted in the suspension of foreign supplies of raw materials, equipment and spare parts to Venezuelan companies, disrupting their production.

"We are making progress ... we have to work very hard," Merentes told reporters Wednesday.

Many factories operate at half capacity because the currency controls make it hard for them to pay for imported parts and materials. Business leaders say some companies verge on bankruptcy because they cannot extend lines of credit with foreign suppliers.

Merentes said the government had met the U.S. dollar requests of some 1,500 small- and medium-sized companies facing supply problems, and was reviewing requests from a similar number of larger companies.

Chavez imposed currency controls a decade ago trying to stem capital flight as his government expropriated large land parcels and dozens of businesses.

Anointed by Chavez as his successor before the president died from cancer, Maduro won a close presidential election April 14 against opposition candidate Henrique Capriles, who refused to accept the result, claiming Maduro won through fraud and voter intimidation. He filed a complaint to the Supreme Court, asking for the vote to be annulled, though that's highly unlikely to happen since the court is packed with government-friendly justices.

Patience is wearing thin among consumers who face shortages and long lines at supermarkets and pharmacies. Last month, Venezuela's scarcity index reached its highest level since 2009, while the 12-month inflation rate has risen to nearly 30 percent. Shoppers often spend several days looking for basic items, and stock up when they find them.

Fleming, the commerce minister, said monthly consumption of toilet paper was normally 125 million rolls, but that current demand "leads us to think that 40 million more are required."

"We will bring in 50 million to show those groups that they won't make us bow down," he said.
 

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....shit.

CG we are living on a lower supply basis daily, years ago stores had 2 weeks supplies, now theyre luck to have 2 days, the end is near, not if but when. Less than a year out imo
 

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Don't they have trees in Venezuela? And don't they have a good climate for growing food? Why the F don't they produce things themselves instead of importing them?! If I were their adviser, I would ask, "What did the country do before there was oil money?" And after hearing the response, I would say, "Do that."
 

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Don't they have trees in Venezuela? And don't they have a good climate for growing food? Why the F don't they produce things themselves instead of importing them?! If I were their adviser, I would ask, "What did the country do before there was oil money?" And after hearing the response, I would say, "Do that."

It doesn't work like that because every nation is tied into the global system. If the elite CBs decide to crush your economy they can, regardless of how things were in the past. Sure, if Venezuela could unplug from the system the way Iceland did then after a while they could stand more on their own and be less at the mercy of the global forces. But in today's heavily controlled global trade and finance environment, any country of significant size would have a hard time doing this without the power brokers starting a war with them. Plus, the politically connected usually do what's best for their own pocketbook not what's best for their nation at large.
 

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Are we really anticipating running out of toilet paper? I haven't seen a store with less than 5000 rolls laying around, and I assure you, companies will continue to produce them if we're buying

Bernie Sanders is moving up in the polls, it's best to plan ahead
 

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Dude, that's not right. ;)

I don't see why washable rags are such a big deal.

QWAK,I am surprised that some swindeling banker has not started selling "Toilet paper for life" insurance!:dduck:

Could be a lottery too I suppose. ;) (poop papers clearing house)

Personaly I bought about a dozen military air+water tite containers and filled most of them with "Toilet paper" ---- I dbout I will out live that investment so along with some SILVER and GOLD my estate will include some FRNs and other toilet paper on rolls!:rotf:

I prefer to both be my own banker but also as much as posable my own insurance company!:oriental:

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If Sanders is elected, toilet paper may run low. But if TSHTF, then you'll have much bigger concerns than how to wipe your butt. Just saying.
 

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If Sanders is elected, toilet paper may run low. But if TSHTF, then you'll have much bigger concerns than how to wipe your butt. Just saying.

QWAK,Thecrensh,It don't matter who gets elected the USA is in the TOILET and the FLUSH handle has been pulled!:bomb 1:

Life as a TURD is a look in to the future for most people!:countdown:

Best hope will be as a FLOATER not a stinky sinker.:2 thumbs up:

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When the TP runs out, it can mean only one thing:

The Sh*t Has Hit the Fan

I'll use FRNs and the tee-shirts of dead zombies as ass-wipe.
 

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Bidet. Never understood the sense of buying hundreds of dollars of paper to wipe your ass and flush the money away.

It's a lot cheaper than treating cholera when your water supply is contaminated with fecal matter.

I understand the arguments for using a bidet, but does it make sense to use what may be a limited supply of water just to wash your backside and risk being chronically thirsty instead? My wife and I can get a year's supply of toilet paper for about $80 at Sam's Club. How is this a waste of money?
 

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It's a lot cheaper than treating cholera when your water supply is contaminated with fecal matter.

I understand the arguments for using a bidet, but does it make sense to use what may be a limited supply of water just to wash your backside and risk being chronically thirsty instead? My wife and I can get a year's supply of toilet paper for about $80 at Sam's Club. How is this a waste of money?

Awright... I gotta step in. Since you mentioned cholera, I just have to point out a coupla facts:

1. Let's posit that you get some shit on your forearm. (Every day.) Do you try to smear it off with a piece of piece of paper and then pull your sleeve down over your arm to cover where you wiped? Or... do you wash yer fargin arm clean and pat it dry?

Which method of "cleaning" will spread cholera? Yup. Smear the shit "clean" off your arm. Do this every day.

2. There are bidet "attachments" that are a snap to install. Even I was able to install this one about ten years ago:

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It uses very little water. About a cupful per use. And guess where the washed-off goodness goes? Yuppers. Right into the septic tank. Not on your hand. Sorta like M&M's.

When you attempt to rub the sticky crud off your "arm":tongue: with a piece of paper... do you really think you have rubbed it all off? Especially since you MUST rub all the crud off your "arm" while you CANNOT SEE it (it is behind your back, right?) And what do you do with a piece of paper smeared with (some of, not all) the poop? What about your shirt sleeve (eg: pants)? Any get there? :tongue: Tobacco stains? Cholera breeding ground?

3. Bidets are orders of magnitude more sanitary. Think about your hand and where it bloody well is while you are scraping/smearing/rubbing. Do you not realize that your hand will ALWAYS be somewhat less than pristine regarding...? But it is a hands-off procedure with a bidet. And ALL the yuck goes where it should. Not so, when you get it on your hands (and don't tell us it never happens) while smearing.

4.Very much cheaper, because you just use enough TP to dry the area, not smear shit around. Or you can even use a clean stack of handkerchief-sized washable/boilable towels. Zero cost. Zero infection. Saved $80.

4. If you are "chronically thirsty" because you used a bidet... (*snork*) you are doing several thangs wrong. :moon: You really need a better water supply plan and setup. Really. Not only that, but if you set the float in your toilet tank to have it fill one or two cups LESS -- then your use of the bidet attachment is "free" from a water supply standpoint. With no change at all with flush efficiency.
 
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I remember the out house and corn cobs for the first pass followed by Sears Roebucks to finish the job.
 
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I remember the out house and corn cobs for the first pass followed by Sears Roebucks to finish the job.

Aw gawd. You brought back a terrible memory: when I wuz a little kid, the outhouse terrified me -- as soon as I would open the door, here comes a thousand mosquitoes up from the hole.

At the same time, wasps ALL OVER THE PLACE standing on nests (close!!) inside the structure, look at me. Some take off to buzz around in welcome.

Jeez.