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Why So Many Believe The Moon Landing Was A Hoax

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That giant leap for mankind required many small unregulated steps.

By: Onar ÅmJuly 16, 2019
On July 20, 1969, Apollo 11 took humans to the moon for the first time. Now, 50 years later, an increasing number of people believe that the moon landing was an elaborate hoax.

Some explain this strange conspiracy theory in psychological terms. Being a contrarian can make people feel special, producing a feeling of belonging to a uniquely wise and insightful elite. Others consider it an expression of hatred for America, grasping at any straw that can portray the US in an unfavorable light.

A rarely discussed third reason is the near-religious belief in progress as promoted by the philosophers Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel and Karl Marx, who believed that history inevitably marches toward a better world. But in many areas, we have regressed. NASA no longer is capable of going to the moon, and the last time any human has set foot on our celestial neighbor was in 1972 with the Apollo 17 mission.

If progress is inevitable, why don’t we have hotels on the moon? For some, it is easier to believe that the moon landing was fake than to accept that technological innovation has just stopped.

The Hiatus In Progress
But wait, don’t we have smartphones now, the internet, and all sorts of cool gadgets and apps that didn’t exist 50 years ago? True, the fields of electronics and telecommunications have seen enormous advances, but these few hotspots of innovation cloak the fact that, in almost all other areas, technological development has ceased. Silicon Valley investor Peter Thiel documented this decline in his book Zero to One, in which he describes several surprising facts:

  • Consider the average car speed. Due to more traffic and congestion, it takes longer to get to work today than it did in 1970. Air travel takes longer, too. We used to have supersonic airplanes, but the Concorde went out of business in 2003.
  • In 1970, a family could afford to buy a house with only one salary. Increasingly this is not true. Health care and education used to be affordable, but the prices keep going up.
  • You have perhaps heard of the growing problem of microbial resistance to antibiotics. Maybe that makes more sense if you also knew that no new antibiotic drug has been developed since the 1960s.
  • Medical innovation also is slowing down. Despite more and more money being invested in drug development, fewer drugs make it to the market, according to Thiel.
Regulations
Why has innovation nearly stopped? The simple answer is likely regulations.



Regulations slow down and prevent innovation by making every endeavor more expensive and less efficient. Today, for instance, it takes on average ten years and $100 million to get a new drug through the FDA approval process. Unlike many other countries, America has spent much of its wealth on financing bureaucrats that make life difficult for inventors. For that reason, the United States is no longer the freest country in the world.

In fact, the Scandinavian countries that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) often describes as an ideal typically score higher on economic freedom than the United States. A key factor in their success is a lean government with few and more efficient regulations. Despite being large welfare states, it is easier to do business in these countries than in America.

Great Again?
While perhaps not aware of why it was happening, a lot of Americans sensed the slowing of the US economy. That likely is why so many voters responded to President Donald Trump’s 2016 slogan, Make America Great Again.

He promised to slash regulations, and so far the economy has responded with healthy growth and record-low unemployment numbers. The Daily Wire’s new four-episode documentary Apollo 11: What We Saw featuring Bill Whittle describes a time before all those regulations.

Whittle dismantles the fake moon landing conspiracy theory by showing that before Neil Armstrong took that giant leap for mankind, hundreds of small incremental steps had to be made. Each of those steps would have been impossible if draconian health and safety regulations had been in place.

The greatest lesson of Apollo 11 may be that, once upon a time, before the slow and gradual decay into red tape and socialism, America used to be an engine of innovationand growth. Maybe it can be great again?

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https://www.libertynation.com/why-so-many-believe-the-moon-landing-was-a-hoax/
 

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Since the original blueprints have been destroyed, explain to me how the spacesuits worked. How were they pressurized to protect the astronauts from the vacuum of space? Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation...
 

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OMG I just came across this...who would have thought the Moon landing, hoax or not, was racist?

Attacks on ‘white & male’ Moon landing prove no US achievement is too big for liberals to destroy
Published time: 17 Jul, 2019 15:59Edited time: 18 Jul, 2019 08:06
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Sea of white: The mission control for Apollo 11 © NASA

Attempts to diminish the triumph of Apollo 11 and to reassign credit don’t just taint the 50th anniversary of the moon landing, but presage the technological decline of the US if it persists with identity politics.
With the Founding Fathers now rarely mentioned in the media without side notes about their slave ownership, and the Betsy Ross flag offensive to Colin Kaepernick and Nike, there is nothing new about liberal attempts to strike at the very heart of American identity.
But – leaving aside the conspiracy theorists – the moment Neil Armstrong stepped on the surface of the Moon on July 20, 1969 was objectively such a universal milestone that to qualify it seems a fight against human endeavor itself.

It would seem like the more logical route, for those who resent that this was a feat of white un-woke America, would be to try and diminish their role in favour of supposedly unsung heroes.
Hidden Figures, the Oscar-winning film from 2016 was the perfect archetype of this revisionist history, exaggerating and fictionalizing the role of a cadre of politically suitable black women, who did an entirely replaceable job and were no more important than thousands of others involved.

Celebrating white men in the age of Trump
But while this unifying narrative, where people of different races and varying attainments are placed alongside each other in anniversary pieces, a more sour, radicalized note has begun to surface, compared to celebrations even five years ago, in the prelapsarian era of Barack Obama.
It is not yet dominant, but persistent enough to be more than a coincidence.
“The culture that put men on the moon was intense, fun, family-unfriendly, and mostly white and male,” tweeted the Washington Post, over a behind-the-scenes look at the life of those involved in the program.

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“In archival Apollo 11 photos and footage, it’s a ‘Where’s Waldo?’ exercise to spot a woman or person of color,” it continued in the article itself.
"We chose to go to the moon. Or at least, some did: watching [documentary film] Apollo 11, it is impossible not to observe that nearly every face you see is white and male," left-wing magazine New Statesman wrote in a recent piece.
A recent Guardian review of the documentary Armstrong features the writer talking about “good ol’ boys from NASA – elderly white men every one of them, who you suspect are still pining for the days of American life when men were men and women waited by the phone in headscarves,” though no evidence is given for the assertion.
Why wasn’t von Braun a black woman?
This is not just bigoted, but astonishing in its unfairness.
Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins could not have helped being white at birth.
George Mueller and Max Faget were not proverbial “mediocre white men” – their deeds are tangible.
No one at NASA could have helped living in 1960s America, or made its social structures, workplace roles, and demographics fit in with 2019 journalists’ conceptions. For God’s sake, many were Germans who had served the Nazi Party with varying degrees of reluctance during World War II, before being whisked away through Operation Paperclip – how do they fit into 21st century privilege hierarchies? Could Wernher von Braun have been an African-American woman from Louisiana?

Wernher von Braun with John F. Kennedy © Getty Images/Bettmann / Contributor
Or would it have been better to stay on Earth until US society advanced enough to send the right people into space? Or perhaps let the Soviets get there first, since for all their class-based ideology they didn’t want to handicap themselves in the space race.
America weighs itself down
And handicap becomes the key word.
Rewriting history is a crucial weapon in the long-term culture war for the left, disappointed so often at the ballot box. But the implications of this go far beyond the past.
At the very edge of technological and scientific progress is a meritocracy – you can’t make someone a genius by appointing them. And for all the social changes, the key innovators at NASA and, more importantly, Silicon Valley, remain men, and predominantly white (though more often Asian). Whether it is more due to their superior opportunities, education or creativity, Elon Musk or Larry Page look just like the fathers of the space program.
Yet to avoid ever producing a picture like the sea of white shirts and black ties and pale arms at Launch Operations Center fifty years ago, there are demands for rectification, for diversity, essentially for positive discrimination.

Neil Armstrong leads his crew to the launchpad. © NASA
But picking people for posts on the basis of historic justice, skin color and chromosome combinations is a recipe for uncompetitive organizations, where the most talented never succeed, or merely drag along the quota-fillers.
And America’s rivals are not standing still – not just Russia now, but China, India and others. They would have no better chance to overtake the US in whatever is this century’s version of the space race, than if that nation decided to spit on its own achievements, and replace them with dogma.
By Igor Ogorodnev
Igor Ogorodnev is a Russian-British journalist, who has worked at RT since 2007 as a correspondent, editor and writer.

https://www.rt.com/usa/464403-nasa-white-men-moon-apollo/
 

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Since the original blueprints have been destroyed, explain to me how the spacesuits worked. How were they pressurized to protect the astronauts from the vacuum of space? Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation...
Google "constant volume joint". That is why the knees and elbows look wrinkled.
 

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There sure was a shitload of co-conspirators working together for the sole purpose of making a prank on Juristic Person.

Apollo 11 had the greatest number of human beings watch the launch in history. Every fargin one of them was conspiring to defraud JP. Them bastages.

Of whom I am one.

A quote from a watcher: "Doubting the Moon Landing is how stupid people can feel smart."
 

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Oh dear. I just saw this:

"Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation... Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation... "

No. Let us start with radiation: Even a fargin HOAX perpetrated just to fool you (jeez) would have an explanation for radiation.

The fact that you actually believe NASA would not address this? Any time someone trolls, or just refuses to learn -- thereby going into the "fatal van Allen belts" or "deadly cosmic radiation" -- makes me try to help them into human society.

Looky here, son:

"The innermost Van Allen belt sits somewhere between 400 to 6,000 miles above the surface of our planet. Even if the innermost belt is at its closest, the ISS (and the space shuttle in its day) are more than 100 miles away from the Van Allen Belts. For near-Earth missions, the Van Allen belts are not a hazard to spacefarers."

But wait, but wait!!!

How could the lunar astronauts get through the fatal/deadly van Allen belts? They had to go right through them.

Now if you stop there (as ALL of those who deny do) it sounds tough. Well, it was. Now I will educate you on how it was done.

"It was, however, a hazard for the Apollo missions. The Van Allen belts are not a physical barrier to spacecraft, and so, in principle, we could have sent the Apollo spacecraft through the belts. It would not have been a good idea. The Van Allen belts are a kind of trap for charged particles like protons and electrons. They’re held in place by the magnetic field of the Earth, and so they trace the shape of the magnetic field itself."

"Charged particles are damaging to human bodies, but the amount of damage done can range from none to lethal, depending on the energy those particles deposit, the density of those particles, and the length of time you spend being exposed to them.

"In the case of the Apollo missions, the solution was to minimize the second two factors.

"...the innermost belt is a rather tightly defined region, and it was possible to stay out of it for the trip to the Moon.

In sum, the FACTS:

"In the end, it seemed that these tactics worked; the on-board dose counters for the Apollo missions registered average radiation doses to the skin of the astronauts of 0.38 rad. This is about the same radiation dose as getting two CT scans of your head, or half the dose of a single chest CT scan."


All of the above quotes come from Forbes. <-- They were in on it, natch.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jillia...allen-belts-barrier-spaceflight/#3a638b4c6f8d
 

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I think the cable rig operator was fired after this moon landing.

 

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Everytime I run across this I have to relate that on a clear evening when the moon is bright I can see mountain ranges on the moon with binoculars. It's not like they are claiming we went light years away.
 

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Why?
Because it's easier to antagonize than it is to rationalize and it would seem it's profitable to draw others to look another way

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If they exist, show me.

Joe King said:
uh, with air?
...and you seem to think they needed to be pressurized to 14psi? They didn't/don't.
No shit Sherlock. 4psi. How were the suits sealed to lock in the pressurization?

NASA claims that an “inner layer” of the suit was pressurized. The outer (white) layer of the suit was not. However the helmet and gloves were detachable. So just how did they pressurize the air inside the detachable helmet if the pressurized portion of the he suit was underneath?

Yeah...it’s a real head scratcher. The entire thing is NONSENSE.
 
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They started taking a lot of the NASA "irregularities " off YouTube that makes me believe that there was something to them.


Plus Don Petit says they destroyed the technology and we can't go back to the moom now lol.
 

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Oh dear. I just saw this:

"Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation... Let’s start there before we get into the mechanics of shielding them from cosmic radiation... "

No. Let us start with radiation: Even a fargin HOAX perpetrated just to fool you (jeez) would have an explanation for radiation.

The fact that you actually believe NASA would not address this? Any time someone trolls, or just refuses to learn -- thereby going into the "fatal van Allen belts" or "deadly cosmic radiation" -- makes me try to help them into human society.

Looky here, son:

"The innermost Van Allen belt sits somewhere between 400 to 6,000 miles above the surface of our planet. Even if the innermost belt is at its closest, the ISS (and the space shuttle in its day) are more than 100 miles away from the Van Allen Belts. For near-Earth missions, the Van Allen belts are not a hazard to spacefarers."

But wait, but wait!!!

How could the lunar astronauts get through the fatal/deadly van Allen belts? They had to go right through them.

Now if you stop there (as ALL of those who deny do) it sounds tough. Well, it was. Now I will educate you on how it was done.

"It was, however, a hazard for the Apollo missions. The Van Allen belts are not a physical barrier to spacecraft, and so, in principle, we could have sent the Apollo spacecraft through the belts. It would not have been a good idea. The Van Allen belts are a kind of trap for charged particles like protons and electrons. They’re held in place by the magnetic field of the Earth, and so they trace the shape of the magnetic field itself."

"Charged particles are damaging to human bodies, but the amount of damage done can range from none to lethal, depending on the energy those particles deposit, the density of those particles, and the length of time you spend being exposed to them.

"In the case of the Apollo missions, the solution was to minimize the second two factors.

"...the innermost belt is a rather tightly defined region, and it was possible to stay out of it for the trip to the Moon.

In sum, the FACTS:

"In the end, it seemed that these tactics worked; the on-board dose counters for the Apollo missions registered average radiation doses to the skin of the astronauts of 0.38 rad. This is about the same radiation dose as getting two CT scans of your head, or half the dose of a single chest CT scan."

All of the above quotes come from Forbes. <-- They were in on it, natch.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jillia...allen-belts-barrier-spaceflight/#3a638b4c6f8d
Exactly!!!

That is why no astronaut has been beyond low earth orbit which is within 400 miles from the surface of Earth.
 

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Why? Because so much of everything else we see on teevee is a lie.
 

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Why is NASA so into VR and AR ?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="
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Because they have to convince the dumbed down makes that they can send people into “outer space” and other ridiculous ideas like “colonizing Mars” lol
 

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Exactly!!!

That is why no astronaut has been beyond low earth orbit which is within 400 miles from the surface of Earth.
There is no way I can make this audible, but if I post it again, maybe... just barely maybe... you will read it and see how it was done.

If you cannot agree after reading the following quote, then you are trolling:


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But wait, but wait!!!

How could the lunar astronauts get through the fatal/deadly van Allen belts? They had to go right through them.

Now if you stop there (as ALL of those who deny do) it sounds tough. Well, it was.


Now I will educate you on how it was done.

"It was, however, a hazard for the Apollo missions. The Van Allen belts are not a physical barrier to spacecraft, and so, in principle, we could have sent the Apollo spacecraft through the belts. It would not have been a good idea. The Van Allen belts are a kind of trap for charged particles like protons and electrons. They’re held in place by the magnetic field of the Earth, and so they trace the shape of the magnetic field itself."

"Charged particles are damaging to human bodies, but the amount of damage done can range from none to lethal, depending on the energy those particles deposit, the density of those particles, and the length of time you spend being exposed to them.

"In the case of the Apollo missions, the solution was to minimize the second two factors.

"...the innermost belt is a rather tightly defined region, and it was possible to stay out of it for the trip to the Moon.

In sum, the FACTS:

"In the end, it seemed that these tactics worked; the on-board dose counters for the Apollo missions registered average radiation doses to the skin of the astronauts of 0.38 rad. This is about the same radiation dose as getting two CT scans of your head, or half the dose of a single chest CT scan."
 

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So just how did they pressurize the air inside the detachable helmet if the pressurized portion of the he suit was underneath?
because all the layers connect to the coupling that the helmet attatches to.
Ie: the suit is made from layers, but they're still connected together.
Ie: the innermost layer acts as a bladder that is air tight, and is covered with the outer layers that keep the bladder from blowing up like a balloon.



If they exist, show me
the blueprints have not been destroyed.
If youre asking why cant they just remake the Saturn V, there's a pretty good reason as to why it would be difficult to exactly remake them.
...but a new one is being built, so the ability and texhnology certainly exists.

It's explained in this vid why it would be difficult to reproduce the F1 engines.



you do realize that by responding with "exactly!" to Walts post, it sounds like you are agreeing with him.

Here sherlock, try watching this vid, and maybe you'll finally get answer to your question.
....and if you still disagree, you'll need to document for us exactly where he is wrong about it.

 

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I've posted this before, but apparently no one who believes it was faked bothered to watch it.
Take a look and see where the idea of it being a hoax, came from. Look at what you are buying into.
....and everyone else should watch it too, if for no other reason than to see what kind of lunacy started this whole thing.

 

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Walt? You know I would just kind of go along with ur fun BUT solorion did post piks of georgieo bush getting pushed through some nasa bs stage that was utilizing a green screen and this was for low earth orbit.

NOW, this morning about 3/4twatevers as I was zoning in and out, for some reason the chromcast that was stuck on autoplay-Utube was a three hour 21minute thingy about Apollo11. Sounded all real even the static that went on for quite a while. Just imagine while snoozing the "SCRkkkegshithttht" of static.....so finally I'm up and watching and they are discarding shit out of the lander and the camera is moving.....THE FUCKING CAMMERA IS MOVING AND BOTH DUDS ARE IN THE FUCKING LANDER/Egale…..what I want to know as this footage is touted as original nasa footage is who the fuck was moving the camera?
 

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There is no way I can make this audible, but if I post it again, maybe... just barely maybe... you will read it and see how it was done.

If you cannot agree after reading the following quote, then you are trolling:


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But wait, but wait!!!

How could the lunar astronauts get through the fatal/deadly van Allen belts? They had to go right through them.

Now if you stop there (as ALL of those who deny do) it sounds tough. Well, it was.

Now I will educate you on how it was done.

"It was, however, a hazard for the Apollo missions. The Van Allen belts are not a physical barrier to spacecraft, and so, in principle, we could have sent the Apollo spacecraft through the belts. It would not have been a good idea. The Van Allen belts are a kind of trap for charged particles like protons and electrons. They’re held in place by the magnetic field of the Earth, and so they trace the shape of the magnetic field itself."

"Charged particles are damaging to human bodies, but the amount of damage done can range from none to lethal, depending on the energy those particles deposit, the density of those particles, and the length of time you spend being exposed to them.

"In the case of the Apollo missions, the solution was to minimize the second two factors.

"...the innermost belt is a rather tightly defined region, and it was possible to stay out of it for the trip to the Moon.

In sum, the FACTS:

"In the end, it seemed that these tactics worked; the on-board dose counters for the Apollo missions registered average radiation doses to the skin of the astronauts of 0.38 rad. This is about the same radiation dose as getting two CT scans of your head, or half the dose of a single chest CT scan."
? U know even my dog can't hang with me but , but the magnetic field catches shit off the sun and slows it down and it is converted to mass, I call it hydrogen and combining it with oxygen makes water. BUT even U have doubts or where ever you copied your post from because that first paragraph is very telling.

...And, so in principal?... holie jumping mackerels!
 

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There is no way I can make this audible, but if I post it again, maybe... just barely maybe... you will read it and see how it was done.

If you cannot agree after reading the following quote, then you are trolling:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But wait, but wait!!!

How could the lunar astronauts get through the fatal/deadly van Allen belts? They had to go right through them.

Now if you stop there (as ALL of those who deny do) it sounds tough. Well, it was.

Now I will educate you on how it was done.

"It was, however, a hazard for the Apollo missions. The Van Allen belts are not a physical barrier to spacecraft, and so, in principle, we could have sent the Apollo spacecraft through the belts. It would not have been a good idea. The Van Allen belts are a kind of trap for charged particles like protons and electrons. They’re held in place by the magnetic field of the Earth, and so they trace the shape of the magnetic field itself."

"Charged particles are damaging to human bodies, but the amount of damage done can range from none to lethal, depending on the energy those particles deposit, the density of those particles, and the length of time you spend being exposed to them.

"In the case of the Apollo missions, the solution was to minimize the second two factors.

"...the innermost belt is a rather tightly defined region, and it was possible to stay out of it for the trip to the Moon.

In sum, the FACTS:

"In the end, it seemed that these tactics worked; the on-board dose counters for the Apollo missions registered average radiation doses to the skin of the astronauts of 0.38 rad. This is about the same radiation dose as getting two CT scans of your head, or half the dose of a single chest CT scan."
Since the alleged feats of the NASA/Hollywood Apollo missions, ZERO humans have gone beyond low Earth orbit. In the last 50 years, not one single country or organization has send any human support beyond low Earth orbit.

Why? NASA answers that question for us. They are still trying to figure a way to do it!

The truth is that moon exploration stopped because NASA simply ran out of prefilmed episodes. O man has ever ascended higher than300 miles above the Earths surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on or walked on the moon. There is no such suit that allows humans to absorb 265 degrees of sunlight in a pressurized suit, surrounded by a vacuum. Nor are there any launch systems capable of sending humans beyond low Earth orbit. NASA admits that here’s in 2019 IT IS IMPOSSIBLE...the don’t have the capability to do it! But they need you To keep sending them your money so they can one day blast you off in a rocket ship to a colony on Mars. Pure fantasy.
 

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Why is NASA so into VR and AR ?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="
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Excellent question. They have been caught numerous times filming in front of a green screen while claiming to be somewhere in orbit around the Earth. They are CGI manipulators. Even their photos of Earth are CGI.
 

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because all the layers connect to the coupling that the helmet attatches to.
Ie: the suit is made from layers, but they're still connected together.
Ie: the innermost layer acts as a bladder that is air tight, and is covered with the outer layers that keep the bladder from blowing up like a balloon.



the blueprints have not been destroyed.
If youre asking why cant they just remake the Saturn V, there's a pretty good reason as to why it would be difficult to exactly remake them.
...but a new one is being built, so the ability and texhnology certainly exists.

It's explained in this vid why it would be difficult to reproduce the F1 engines.



you do realize that by responding with "exactly!" to Walts post, it sounds like you are agreeing with him.

Here sherlock, try watching this vid, and maybe you'll finally get answer to your question.
....and if you still disagree, you'll need to document for us exactly where he is wrong about it.

 

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I want to know as this footage is touted as original nasa footage is who the fuck was moving the camera?
repost it.


Since the alleged feats of the NASA/Hollywood Apollo missions, ZERO humans have gone beyond low Earth orbit. In the last 50 years, not one single country or organization has send any human support beyond low Earth orbit.

Why?
There were several reasons.



well now that you've used all caps, that totally confirms it then. Lol
...ad a vid where a guy makes assumptions based on what he thinks he sees in photographs, does not prove anything about how spacesuits work.
 

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Just watch the Apollo 11 press conference (if you can bear it). As a kid, I was fully into the space program and remember being confused at their reactions and statements. Those guys all look down and act like their families were being held hostage (maybe they were).

The nail in the coffin for me is the talk about stars. Collins, who was orbiting the moon in freaking space, tries to help out Armstrong's bumbling answer and says "I don't remember any." I have never been in space, but I have seen the stars from 22,000 feet at night mountain climbing, and I can tell you that is unforgettable and spectacular.
 
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We need Perry Mason on the case!
 

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Just watch the Apollo 11 press conference (if you can bear it). As a kid, I was fully into the space program and remember being confused at their reactions and statements. Those guys all look down and act like their families were being held hostage (maybe they were).

The nail in the coffin for me is the talk about stars. Collins, who was orbiting the moon in freaking space, tries to help out Armstrong's bumbling answer and says "I don't remember any." I have never been in space, but I have seen the stars from 22,000 feet at night mountain climbing, and I can tell you that is unforgettable and spectacular.
They contradict themselves. One guy says he couldn’t see any stars and then the other guy says they were brilliant and lit up the entire sky.

Same with the noise of the rocket. One says it’s the loudest noise he ever heard and the other says there was no noise. (If truly in a vacuum, they wouldn’t have heard anything).
 

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Same with the noise of the rocket. One says it’s the loudest noise he ever heard and the other says there was no noise. (If truly in a vacuum, they wouldn’t have heard anything
are you implying that sound cant travel through the rocket itself?
...and are they describing launch, or when firing the rocket engine in space?
 

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Just watch the Apollo 11 press conference (if you can bear it). As a kid, I was fully into the space program and remember being confused at their reactions and statements. Those guys all look down and act like their families were being held hostage (maybe they were).

The nail in the coffin for me is the talk about stars. Collins, who was orbiting the moon in freaking space, tries to help out Armstrong's bumbling answer and says "I don't remember any." I have never been in space, but I have seen the stars from 22,000 feet at night mountain climbing, and I can tell you that is unforgettable and spectacular.
They all think we're stupid! There was no Moon landing
 

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No one will admit it? They taught it to me in school and even Hollywood has brought it up in various movies including October Sky.

Wernher Von Braun works on V2 rocket program ......Nazi war criminal monster.

Allies fire bomb Dresden .......heroes who saved Europe from those mean guys.

V2 Rockets (Wikipedia) killed an estimated 9000 military and civilian personnel throughout the war.

Operation Gomorrah the allied fire bombing of Hamburg in 1943 is estimated to have killed 35,000 civilians and wounded 125,000.
 

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No one will admit it? They taught it to me in school and even Hollywood has brought it up in various movies including October Sky.

Wernher Von Braun works on V2 rocket program ......Nazi war criminal monster.

Allies fire bomb Dresden .......heroes who saved Europe from those mean guys.

V2 Rockets (Wikipedia) killed an estimated 9000 military and civilian personnel throughout the war.

Operation Gomorrah the allied fire bombing of Hamburg in 1943 is estimated to have killed 35,000 civilians and wounded 125,000.
Muh freedom!
 

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Another attempt at re-writing American history with the jaundice eyes of today's youths & Euro-Socialists PROGRESSIVES as educators. AKA "Brainwashing"
 
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